Trump's pick of JD Vance a hopefully fatal mistake for his maga fascist movement

[Danderman123]

1 hour ago, nobodysfriend said:

 

The fact that after her nomination , 81 million bucks have been donated to the dems within just a few hours , is a good indicator ...?

Harris needs 80+ million votes. A million donors is a drop in the bucket.

[alanrchase]

12 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

Jingthing, do you have any idea how pathetic you sound when you're constantly spouting the word 'fascist', i expect it was you that reported a post on the other thread.

 

please do explain why we're all fascists, keen to hear the details.....i doubt you can!

Where does it say you are all fascists? Fascists in the MAGA movement is what was said. There are plenty of fascists in the MAGA movement but that does make you a fascist. If you vote for Trump you will however be voting for a fascist agenda.

[BobBKK]

2 minutes ago, Celsius said:

Well, well, if this title is allowed on AN then surely, I can post that demoncrat party is a nonce party.

 

 
I am also amazed that they let members post such words here. 

[frank83628]

8 minutes ago, alanrchase said:

Where does it say you are all fascists? Fascists in the MAGA movement is what was said. There are plenty of fascists in the MAGA movement but that does make you a fascist. If you vote for Trump you will however be voting for a fascist agenda.

guess you haven't read many of JT's comments on these threads. anyone that has a difference of opinion about trump is a maga fascist. 

[herfiehandbag]

14 hours ago, Jingthing said:

I don't see how he can dump him now.

Has that ever happened in American history after a convention before the election?

I don't think so.

Perhaps he can be persuaded to exit in order to spend more time with this family 

...

in India.

The Republicans are calling foul, fraud and demanding refunds (!) because Biden withdrew before the Democrat convention. 

 

They can't really change their Vice Presidential candidate after he has been endorsed by their convention, can they?

 

Mind you it would be interesting watching Johnson and company squirm and wriggle to justify it!

[frank83628]

35 minutes ago, HappyExpat57 said:

Wow! I don't think I've EVER seen a post, either here or another forum, that has so many things incorrect.  Well done!

you obviously didn't read Jingthings initial post then..well, it was more of a rant!

[bendejo]

On the possibility of Vance getting the bum's rush off the ticket, some of you younglings out there might want to do a web search on Tom Eagleton 1972 and the affect it hand on the Dem outcome.  ("a thousand percent")

But I doubt DT would be deterred by this story, he would just keep bullying and calling names, which is what he will do anyway.

 

 

[Foxx]

1 hour ago, Dave5710 said:

Harris is a complete disaster that was not even born in America but in Canada.

 

Just like Obama was born in Kenya - another Republican lie.

She was born in Oakland, California which, last time I checked, was still part of the United States.

[marin]

5 minutes ago, Foxx said:

  1 hour ago, Dave5710 said:

Harris is a complete disaster that was not even born in America but in Canada.

 Another lying Trump supporter.  The truth is more revealing JD Vance was actually born in Zimbabwe. 🤣

[Fat is a type of crazy]

Vance is a good speaker. Good story. Rust belt state. Smart. Big negative is his embracing of MAGA stuff to get where he is. But he will likely pivot to be seen as more moderate. I think he is a good weapon compared to so many Republicans who have no style or substance. 

[tgw]

9 hours ago, TedG said:

Yes I have.  This is your chance to tell me why it’s fascist. 

 

some reading:

short article: https://dailymontanan.com/2024/07/17/american-fascism-starts-in-places-like-montana/

 

a checklist:

https://www.keene.edu/academics/cchgs/resources/presentation-materials/characteristics-and-appeal-of-fascism/download/

 

longer:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Definitions_of_fascism

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trumpism

 

and here I applied the checklist. green checkmarks show where Trump fits the bill in fact or in intention.

 

[spidermike007]

Can you imagine listening to one of Trump's offspring for advice? It would be a bit like asking Miley Cyrus to help negotiate peace in the Middle East. 

 

Vance seems like one of those guys with a talent of switching sides, pandering to whoever is elevating him to another level professionally, and a man who is completely lacking in moral conviction, which actually makes him a really great fit for Trump, but would not necessarily help him on any level to get elected. 

 

his son probably recommended him because of his relative youth and because the Hillbilly Elegy was such a hit. 

[cdemundo]

2 hours ago, Thai Visa Member 999999 said:

I'd rather see a Hispanic. Trump was stealing Hispanic and Black men from Biden and hopefully this will reverse that and shore it up. Percentage-wise, very few white guys are gonna vote D.

"Very few white guys are gonna vote D".

 

You must be thinking of your circle of acquaintances.

Many educated white men would vote for just about anyone as a vote against Trump,

I can hardly believe you made such a ridiculous statement.

[Hanaguma]

13 minutes ago, tgw said:

 

some reading:

short article: https://dailymontanan.com/2024/07/17/american-fascism-starts-in-places-like-montana/

 

a checklist:

https://www.keene.edu/academics/cchgs/resources/presentation-materials/characteristics-and-appeal-of-fascism/download/

 

longer:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Definitions_of_fascism

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trumpism

 

and here I applied the checklist. green checkmarks show where Trump fits the bill in fact or in intention.

 

I thought those were checkmarks of the current Democratic Party....

[Hanaguma]

4 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

Can you imagine listening to one of Trump's offspring for advice? It would be a bit like asking Miley Cyrus to help negotiate peace in the Middle East. 

 

Vance seems like one of those guys with a talent of switching sides, pandering to whoever is elevating him to another level professionally, and a man who is completely lacking in moral conviction, which actually makes him a really great fit for Trump, but would not necessarily help him on any level to get elected. 

 

his son probably recommended him because of his relative youth and because the Hillbilly Elegy was such a hit. 

Considering who Biden thought was the "smartest person I know", then Trump talking to his kids seems rather tame. They are all bright, well educated, well traveled, etc.

[spidermike007]

3 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

Considering who Biden thought was the "smartest person I know", then Trump talking to his kids seems rather tame. They are all bright, well educated, well traveled, etc.

Well nobody can argue about the well-educated part, however you can dress a pig in a mink coat and it's still going to be a pig. The reality is that his children are dim and no amount of denial is ever going to change that. Just listen to virtually any quote that any of his children have ever made for proof of that. 

 

 

Eric Trump Quotes

 

You see these terrorists that are flying planes into buildings, right? You see our cities getting shot up in California. You see Paris getting shot up. And then somebody complains when a terrorist gets waterboarded, which quite frankly is no different than what happens on college campuses and frat houses every day.

 

Eric Trump

 

As the number of deaths caused by the virus on his father’s watch surpassed 83,000, Eric took to the airwaves to claim “Biden loves” the pandemic because it stopped the Trump campaign from holding rallies.

 

“You watch – they'll milk it every single day between now and [election day] November 3rd, and guess what? After November 3rd coronavirus will magically all of a sudden go away and disappear and everybody will be able to reopen,” he told Fox News on 16 May.

 

As some churches fought to hold face-to-face congregations during the pandemic, Eric told a North Dakota radio station: “He literally saved Christianity, there's a war on faith in this country by the other side.”

“The Democratic Party, the far left, has become the party of the ‘atheist’, they want to attack Christianity, they want to close churches,” he added. “They’re totally fine keeping liquor stores open, but they want to close churches all over the country.”

 

What can one even say? Trump sure knows how to create dunces for offspring. 

[Jingthing]

59 minutes ago, Fat is a type of crazy said:

Vance is a good speaker. Good story. Rust belt state. Smart. Big negative is his embracing of MAGA stuff to get where he is. But he will likely pivot to be seen as more moderate. I think he is a good weapon compared to so many Republicans who have no style or substance. 

He's a horrible speaker. No rizz.

[Jingthing]

1 hour ago, bendejo said:

On the possibility of Vance getting the bum's rush off the ticket, some of you younglings out there might want to do a web search on Tom Eagleton 1972 and the affect it hand on the Dem outcome.  ("a thousand percent")

But I doubt DT would be deterred by this story, he would just keep bullying and calling names, which is what he will do anyway.

 

 

Yeah I forgot about him.

Something about a history of mental illness.

Anyway they won't dump him just because he was a crap choice politically.

[Irish star]

Absolutely

[HappyExpat57]

1 hour ago, Fat is a type of crazy said:

Vance is a good speaker. Good story. Rust belt state. Smart. Big negative is his embracing of MAGA stuff to get where he is. But he will likely pivot to be seen as more moderate. I think he is a good weapon compared to so many Republicans who have no style or substance. 

Did you not see one of his first speeches where he layed a big fat turd on the dining room table and watched it squirm? He was asking for the crowd to give him applause ala Jeb Bush style flops. Nope, he was a serious mistake.

[john donson]

if only he would take jfk jr, as VP, to clean up big pharma

 

and trump can stop funding ukraine

 

double mega win for the world

[HappyExpat57]

1 hour ago, Hanaguma said:

I thought those were checkmarks of the current Democratic Party....

"I know you are but what am I" retort? C'mon, you're much better than that.

[thecyclist]

It doesn't matter much. Every fascist  movement in history was doomed from the start, because they always self-destruct in the end.Their megalomania makes sure of that.The only question is the toll.

[frank83628]

1 hour ago, tgw said:

 

some reading:

short article: https://dailymontanan.com/2024/07/17/american-fascism-starts-in-places-like-montana/

 

a checklist:

https://www.keene.edu/academics/cchgs/resources/presentation-materials/characteristics-and-appeal-of-fascism/download/

 

longer:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Definitions_of_fascism

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trumpism

 

and here I applied the checklist. green checkmarks show where Trump fits the bill in fact or in intention.

 

most of those apply to USA in general, despite who is President. 

[Thingamabob]

Get a grip. Your  reference to fascism  in your headline is ridiculous.

[Dave0206]

5 hours ago, Dave5710 said:

You are a complete idiot.  Vance is a military veteran that graduated from Yale with a flawless record.  Harris is a complete disaster that was not even born in America but in Canada. She failed the Bar exam as well!  Go look at the polls dumb dumb.  Trump is destroying her!  As a Democratic nominee, she bowed out of the race early with a 1% approval rating!  She’s a radical leftist that held blacks who committed minor crimes past their release dates.  This makes her a racist as well.  She started her political career by means of an affair with a married man!  Demo-rats lost already!  Biden was a liar and she lied for him, calling him the most competent president she’s ever seen!  The media will push their lies about margin of error polling that has her within striking distance of Trump.  This is bull<deleted>.  She also received 100 million in donations for her campaign illegally.  She’s not qualified to even hold the position she’s in. A border czar whose claim to fame was keeping our borders open!  Let’s see if her Ven diagrams help her when she debates Trump… if she even shows up!  The Demonrats last chance after failing to impeach Trump, falsely accusing him of crimes Biden actually committed, weaponizing a justice system against him, fabricating a Russian collusion hoax, and last but not least a failed assassination attempt will not deter Trump from becoming our 47th U.S. President!  You can count on it!

Absolute disgusting holding blacks on minor crimes lucky for the central park 5 who were eventually cleared she was not around when someone I forget who was taking out adverts to hang them still not said he was wrong 

[Fat is a type of crazy]

3 hours ago, HappyExpat57 said:

Did you not see one of his first speeches where he layed a big fat turd on the dining room table and watched it squirm? He was asking for the crowd to give him applause ala Jeb Bush style flops. Nope, he was a serious mistake.

 

3 hours ago, Jingthing said:

He's a horrible speaker. No rizz.

To be fair haven't seen his recent or post nomination stuff. But older interviews and speeches seemed fairly on target and clever and even interesting. But maybe his move to the right has made him seem callous and less appealing. 

[Jingthing]

3 hours ago, thecyclist said:

It doesn't matter much. Every fascist  movement in history was doomed from the start, because they always self-destruct in the end.Their megalomania makes sure of that.The only question is the toll.

Let's reduce the toll by crushing maga.

[Jingthing]

1 hour ago, Thingamabob said:

Get a grip. Your  reference to fascism  in your headline is ridiculous.

You don’t need to read or post to the topic if you don't like the title.

[No Forwarding Address]

13 hours ago, Captain Monday said:

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6 hours ago, HappyExpat57 said:

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