Kamala Harris's VP Choice: Did She Make Her First Major Campaign Mistake?

[Chomper Higgot]

6 minutes ago, thesetat2013 said:

This is what the Dems are saying now about everything Republican. They could not find anything meaningful to express themselves with so Harris began calling all Republicans WEIRD. Just shows that Harris really has no idea about how to speak meaningful things the public want to hear concerning being the next President. Anything she does not agree with becomes weird to her. 

Harris correctly called Trump and his ‘mini-Trump’ pick for running mate weird.

 

And they are.

[mania]

Who voted for Kamala Harris to be the Democrats Presidential nominee? Nobody that is who...SO who cares if this is her first mistake...She IS the mistake to the Democratic process....No Democrat voted her to be their Presidential Candidate

[GammaGlobulin]

49 minutes ago, sirineou said:

Sorry son, but at least in this reply I would have to classify it as inept.  

As to his record I assume you are referring to his military record. It Is after all what we are talking about are we not? 

 And to that point I posted a reputable quote and a  link.  All the rest you posted are an inept attempt to distract from the fact that you screwed up.

 

If you mean, by a reputable quote, The Washington Post, this article you linked is behind a paywall.

Therefore, the link that you provided is not accessible to many.

 

Just post the facts, or a link to the facts.

 

If you think that you need to have a teaching moment to instruct others concerning propaganda, persuasion, belief, and the media, then please feel free, but it's not necessary.

 

Nobody here screwed up, and no one here was attempting to distract from the facts.

Also, nobody here has much of an interest in who wins in 2024.

 

The only problem is that people like Harris and Walz, through their obviously self-serving ways, have made the world worse for everybody.

 

You can be sure that, if not Walz or Harris, at least someone of their ilk will get elected.

And, we will be back to square one, in Janaury 2025.

 

Trump or Harris?

Both are fine with me.

They will make zero difference in the grand scheme of things.

They will be gone after a brief moment, and will be forgotten, soon enough.

 

Fortunately, I do not live in the USA.

The ONLY time I see any news about these two clowns is here on this sub-forum.

You have a house in the USA....

You are the one that must live with them...

Not I...

 

Enjoy...!

 

 

 

[Chomper Higgot]

Just now, mania said:

Who voted for Kamala Harris to be the Democrats Presidential nominee? Nobody that is who...SO who cares if this is her first mistake...She IS the mistake to the Democratic process....No Democrat voted her to be their Presidential Candidate

Americans will get to vote in November.

 

Her detractors, both foreign and domestic, will need to await the outcome.

[thesetat2013]

8 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Harris correctly called Trump and his ‘mini-Trump’ pick for running mate weird.

 

And they are.

Not biased are we hmm...

[susanlea]

9 minutes ago, sirineou said:

I don't know why you don't just stay down? simply pretend you did not hear my response and move on.

You must be a glutton for punishment.  

You lose every argument. 

[susanlea]

7 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Americans will get to vote in November.

 

Her detractors, both foreign and domestic, will need to await the outcome.

The world gets to see whether it's Trans America or normal America. 

[Lacessit]

10 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Harris correctly called Trump and his ‘mini-Trump’ pick for running mate weird.

 

And they are.

I understand it was Walz who first used the weird word.

 

He followed that up by attacking Vance's stance on abortion, saying Vance should mind his own business.

 

He's looking like a strong campaigner, and an asset to Harris. OTOH, Vance is looking like a disaster for Trump.

[wozzlegummich]

Why is it in the USA if a jew isn't included or picked they call it out as anti semitism.

[Chomper Higgot]

6 minutes ago, susanlea said:

The world gets to see whether it's Trans America or normal America. 

It’s a curious fixation you have there.

[susanlea]

Just now, Chomper Higgot said:

It’s a curious fixation you have there.

The world does. Most Olympic talk was about the boxer and the Opening Ceremony. Maybe you don't watch any news.

[Chomper Higgot]

8 minutes ago, thesetat2013 said:

Not biased are we hmm...

Oh I am absolutely biased.

 

I despise Trump.

 

I apologize if I haven’t made that clear.

[Chomper Higgot]

Just now, susanlea said:

The world does. Most Olympic talk was about the boxer and the Opening Ceremony. Maybe you don't watch any news.

I don’t follow the rabid rightwing talking heads, so yes I missed almost all of it.

[susanlea]

Just now, Chomper Higgot said:

I don’t follow the rabid rightwing talking heads, so yes I missed almost all of it.

All mainstream media covered it. Most are left wing. You must live a sheltered far left life.

[susanlea]

Kamala has a very thin skin. CNN website has a link showing her get angry at a few hecklers. She looks nasty. Underneath the silly laugh is a nasty person. China must be loving the prospect of her winning. 

[sqwakvfr]

2 hours ago, herfiehandbag said:

He served 27 years in the National Guard - that means that when he left he would have been 45 or so.

 

I somehow doubt that at that age he was likely to have been considered for deployment. 

 

However, I am sure that you have the links to back that all up...

When I was deployed to A-stan I knew a reserve Major who was 60.  45 is not too old.  My last deployment I was 46.  One of the biggest differences between Active Duty personnel then reserve and/or national guard is the age difference.  The average reservist and guardsman is older and in some cases much older than active duty.  

[transam]

4 minutes ago, susanlea said:

Kamala has a very thin skin. CNN website has a link showing her get angry at a few hecklers. She looks nasty. Underneath the silly laugh is a nasty person. China must be loving the prospect of her winning. 

Is that from a 'big girl's blouse' point of view.......Dolf...🤔

[300sd]

53 minutes ago, sirineou said:

Yes because he won his last reelection by only 8 percentage points 

They probably love him in California too.

[Eric Loh]

14 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

I understand it was Walz who first used the weird word.

 

He followed that up by attacking Vance's stance on abortion, saying Vance should mind his own business.

 

He's looking like a strong campaigner, and an asset to Harris. OTOH, Vance is looking like a disaster for Trump.

Got to say both exult energy and excitement at the rallies. Wisconsin drew 10,000 and Philadelphia drew 14,000 inside and outside the venue. Meanwhile Vance was holding his Wisconsin rally on a warehouse floor while Trump rested and took a few days off. Don’t think he has the energy for the gruelling election campaigning. His rallies are becoming a tired monotony and he looks old and unfit. 

 

[susanlea]

4 minutes ago, sqwakvfr said:

When I was deployed to A-stan I knew a reserve Major who was 60.  45 is not tool old.  My last deployment I was 46. 

60 isnt old if fit. He looks 75. Joe Rogan is 57, looks 30 years younger.

[newnative]

Just now, susanlea said:

True Shapiro has a brain which both Kamala and Tim lack. Vance is a neutral selection, Tim is -1 or -2.

     Tim is a definite plus and a great fit for Harris.  While Harris is a somewhat exotic candidate--a woman of color--Tim nicely tempers that by being a steady, regular guy with plenty of experience.  They can easily see him as someone who can take over as president, if need be.   In short, he moves the needle in a very positive way.

    I think he will pull in lots of undecided voters to vote Democrat, reassure and energize Democrats, and likely pull in Republicans who can't stomach Trump, or Vance. 

     Picking Vance was a huge mistake (thank you!) for Trump.   He already has the wacko and weird vote locked up.  Choosing a wacko and weird VP to solidify a voting group that really didn't need any help was not the way to go. 

     Even your best case, Vance being 'neutral' and not a negative, brings absolutely nothing to the table.   Why would you choose someone 'neutral' who doesn't even move the needle?  How does having a ticket of Weird and Weirder get you across the finish line? 

    Trump needed far more than 'neutral' to make the undecided voters and sane Republicans take a second look.  In two presidential elections, he has lost the popular vote badly--2.8 million and, even worse, 7 million--going backwards with the voters.   How does he do any better this time around as a convicted felon and rapist, with other serious charges hanging over his head?         

    And, at age 78, lots of voters see Trump as a doddering, delusional, dead man walking and  will be looking at who steps in should Trump depart for Danteland.  Vance as that person scares far too many.  Trump made a terrible, terrible choice.  Yaa!!!

[Hanaguma]

48 minutes ago, sirineou said:

Google it , start by Vance & Cat ladies , or "having <deleted> a couch "

But i guess boys would be boys, who among us has not <deleted> a couch? 

I would say that the cat ladies are the weird ones, not JD.

 

Not sure if I trust the couch stores, but  let's be honest - who among us never got 'creative' as a lad when we felt the urge to ... 

 

[susanlea]

3 minutes ago, newnative said:

     Tim is a definite plus and a great fit for Harris.  While Harris is a somewhat exotic candidate--a woman of color--Tim nicely tempers that by being a steady, regular guy with plenty of experience.  They can easily see him as someone who can take over as president, if need be.   In short, he moves the needle in a very positive way.

    I think he will pull in lots of undecided voters to vote Democrat, reassure and energize Democrats, and likely pull in Republicans who can't stomach Trump, or Vance. 

     Picking Vance was a huge mistake (thank you!) for Trump.   He already has the wacko and weird vote locked up.  Choosing a wacko and weird VP to solidify a voting group that really didn't need any help was not the way to go. 

     Even your best case, Vance being 'neutral' and not a negative, brings absolutely nothing to the table.   Why would you choose someone 'neutral' who doesn't even move the needle?  How does having a ticket of Weird and Weirder get you across the finish line? 

    Trump needed far more than 'neutral' to make the undecided voters and sane Republicans take a second look.  In two presidential elections, he has lost the popular vote badly--2.8 million and, even worse, 7 million--going backwards with the voters.   How does he do any better this time around as a convicted felon and rapist, with other serious charges hanging over his head?         

    And, at age 78, lots of voters see Trump as a doddering, delusional, dead man walking and  will be looking at who steps in should Trump depart for Danteland.  Vance as that person scares far too many.  Trump made a terrible, terrible choice.  Yaa!!!

Tim is old and has weird ideas. 

[susanlea]

4 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

I would say that the cat ladies are the weird ones, not JD.

 

Not sure if I trust the couch stores, but  let's be honest - who among us never got 'creative' as a lad when we felt the urge to ... 

 

Having 3 kids was normal for thousands of years. Kept humans alive. 

[Lacessit]

1 minute ago, Eric Loh said:

Got to say both exult energy and excitement at the rallies. Wisconsin drew 10,000 and Philadelphia drew 14,000 inside and outside the venue. Meanwhile Vance was holding his Wisconsin rally on a warehouse floor while Trump rested and took a few days off. Don’t think he has the energy for the gruelling election campaigning. His rallies are becoming a tired monotony and he looks old and unfit. 

 

IMO Trump has nothing new to say, it's the same tired old rhetoric about stolen elections and MAGA, although there are no specifics about how that will be done.

 

The only new stuff is attacking Harris instead of Biden, and I bet he wishes Biden was still running.

 

If he is relying on Vance to do the heavy lifting, I think he is going to be disappointed. Vance barely won his Senate seat in A Republican state.

[Wrwest]

4 hours ago, kwonitoy said:

 

Facts, not opponents cheap shot sound bites

 

How long was Walz in the military?

Walz served in the military for 24 years, enlisting in the Nebraska National Guard at 17 in 1981 and then transferring to the Minnesota National Guard in 1996. He retired in 2005 to begin his successful run for the U.S. House, representing Minnesota as command sergeant major, among the highest ranks for enlisted soldiers. His battalion went on to deploy to Iraq shortly after Walz's retirement.

Thank you. Trump and the Project 2025 ilk have a right to be scared.

[HappyExpat57]

1 hour ago, sirineou said:

Google it , start by Vance & Cat ladies , or "having <deleted> a couch "

But i guess boys would be boys, who among us has not <deleted> a couch? 

I have to admit the "effing a couch" thing has been debunked, but I always spread that rumor as much as possible cuz I want to hear him HAVE to say "I did NOT eff that couch!"

[Hanaguma]

Just now, Lacessit said:

IMO Trump has nothing new to say, it's the same tired old rhetoric about stolen elections and MAGA, although there are no specifics about how that will be done.

 

The only new stuff is attacking Harris instead of Biden, and I bet he wishes Biden was still running.

 

If he is relying on Vance to do the heavy lifting, I think he is going to be disappointed. Vance barely won his Senate seat in A Republican state.

Vance beat an incumbent Democrat in an otherwise poor year for Republicans. He is a great attack dog.

[transam]

2 minutes ago, susanlea said:

Tim is old and has weird ideas. 

So why do you support a VERY old guy with weird and criminal ideas, Trump......? 😂

 

Now I know you will not answer, because what ever username you use, you put me on ignore, because you get buried.....😋

[Wrwest]

3 hours ago, Srikcir said:

Another perspective:

The Right-Wing Attacks On Tim Walz Are Weird

Voters have repeatedly signaled that this is not a winning electoral strategy. By Nathalie Baptiste, Aug 7, 2024

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/tim-walz-weird-attacks_n_66b3b3ebe4b0e4caf7f4fb63

• "The Republicans’ problem is now twofold. They seem to be unable to come up with attacks that can stick — especially to a politician who is white, Midwestern and moderate.

  Then there’s the fact that the Republican Party has abandoned any pretense of having a policy platform and has chosen to double down on its ever-growing list of white grievances. And while making deranged claims about Walz’s record may satisfy its base, the culture war-style attacks are becoming more inscrutable to the average voter with each passing day."

Agreed, although I think the Republicans do have a strategy, clearly outlined in Project 2025.