I like to see this all unraveled between these two , harris & Trump ! Imop

“A migrant crisis that has engulfed the US is  a decisive issue in  the November election between Trump & harris”.

 

According to the article “over 9 million people have poured over, never before -encountered levels  of immigration since biden took office”.

 

https://nypost.com/2024/08/20/us-news/what-every-american-needs-to-know-about-the-migrant-crisis-video-report/

 

 

 

 

19 hours ago, riclag said:

I like to see this all unraveled between these two , harris & Trump ! Imop

“A migrant crisis that has engulfed the US is  a decisive issue in  the November election between Trump & harris”.

 

According to the article “over 9 million people have poured over, never before -encountered levels  of immigration since biden took office”.

 

https://nypost.com/2024/08/20/us-news/what-every-american-needs-to-know-about-the-migrant-crisis-video-report/

 

 

 

 

NY Post. Who reads this rag?

And yet the same data shows that the Biden administration has delivered excellent results since January 2024. The number of people crossing the border has been significantly reduced and if the trend continues, should be better than when Trump was in office , excluding the period when the borders were closed because of Covid. 

The numbers could have been reduced even further if Trump had not blocked the  bipartisan funding Bill from passing. Trump wanted the border crisis so that he could have an issue for the  election campaign.

1 hour ago, Patong2021 said:

And yet the same data shows that the Biden administration has delivered excellent results since January 2024. The number of people crossing the border has been significantly reduced and if the trend continues, should be better than when Trump was in office , excluding the period when the borders were closed because of Covid. 

The numbers could have been reduced even further if Trump had not blocked the  bipartisan funding Bill from passing. Trump wanted the border crisis so that he could have an issue for the  election campaign.

Thats a bunch of BS!

Trump has no parliamentary participation . 
biden/harris own the purge to the border that created the historic numbers.

Also one of the original co author’s of the bill ,Sen.Lankford , you brought up was duped into 

believing biden administration would be transparent  but they couldn’t  agree on vetting the illegals,Or the numbers allowed in according to Lankford .

Langford said biden administration ignores enforcement of the immigration laws by allowing illegals to break these laws to go unpunished .

 

 

7 minutes ago, riclag said:

Thats a bunch of BS!

Trump has no parliamentary participation . 
biden/harris own the purge to the border that created the historic numbers.

Also one of the original co author’s of the bill ,Sen.Lankford , you brought up was duped into 

believing biden administration would be transparent  but they couldn’t  agree on vetting the illegals,Or the numbers allowed in according to Lankford .

Langford said biden administration ignores enforcement of the immigration laws by allowing illegals to break these laws to go unpunished .

 

 

 

The publicly available  ICE data supports my statement.

 

Trump took credit for killing the Bipartisan border Bill. Your argument requires that we all ignore the statements of the great and glorious Donald Trump:    “I think we killed it. I think it’s dead! 

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/4459861-trump-praises-collapse-of-bipartisan-border-deal/

Former President Trump praised the demise of the bipartisan border deal Friday, taking credit helping to tank the legislation that took months to negotiate.  Trump urged Republicans to vote against the bill before it was unveiled last Sunday, arguing its passage would be a political victory for President Biden in the election-year matchup that is likely to feature both men as their respective party nominees.  The former president took pleasure in contributing to the bill’s failure Friday in remarks to members of the National Rifle Association in Harrisburg, Pa.

 

 

The bipartisan Bill was co-written by the Republicans and backed by Senate leader Mitch McConnell.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/republicans-kill-border-bill-sign-trumps-strength-mcconnells-waning-in-rcna137477

Trump’s hammering of the deal, while he uses immigration as a campaign issue, and his demands that Republicans reject it won the day.

 

 

Biden got rid of Trumps execuitive order as soon as he became president. Illegals coming in are down right now. It will pick back up when it gets cooler. NY gives them gift cards. NY homeless get nothing

The numbers don't look good, if they are correct.

4 hours ago, riclag said:

Thats a bunch of BS!

Trump has no parliamentary participation . 
biden/harris own the purge to the border that created the historic numbers.

Also one of the original co author’s of the bill ,Sen.Lankford , you brought up was duped into 

believing biden administration would be transparent  but they couldn’t  agree on vetting the illegals,Or the numbers allowed in according to Lankford .

Langford said biden administration ignores enforcement of the immigration laws by allowing illegals to break these laws to go unpunished .

 

 

Anyone who believes that Trump has no influence on the Republicans in the govt at this time is blind and ignorant in my opinion.  they almost to a person bow on lowered knees to kowtow to his influence.  After all, their only concern is getting reelected to their position, not on the progress of the nation.  I was a registerd Republican but changed to Independent, but could never be a democrat yet I am very aware of the current political situation in my country.  All of the elected officials are to blame for the current problems, especially the illegal immigrant problems.  Our nation is not alone with this issue that is for sure as the &^%$hole countries continue driving their own citizens out of that country into the western world causing many problems.  We need to fix the UN to even begin solving the problem worldwide but that is just another issue in the new world society.  Certainly glad to be OLD now but worry for the younger folks.  best of luck.  especially in light of the November election.

On 8/21/2024 at 5:04 AM, riclag said:

I like to see this all unraveled between these two , harris & Trump ! Imop

“A migrant crisis that has engulfed the US is  a decisive issue in  the November election between Trump & harris”.

 

According to the article “over 9 million people have poured over, never before -encountered levels  of immigration since biden took office”.

 

https://nypost.com/2024/08/20/us-news/what-every-american-needs-to-know-about-the-migrant-crisis-video-report/

 

 

 

 

Why isn't Trump's wall working? Billions of dollars squandered. 

On 8/21/2024 at 5:04 AM, riclag said:

I like to see this all unraveled between these two , harris & Trump ! Imop

“A migrant crisis that has engulfed the US is  a decisive issue in  the November election between Trump & harris”.

 

According to the article “over 9 million people have poured over, never before -encountered levels  of immigration since biden took office”.

 

https://nypost.com/2024/08/20/us-news/what-every-american-needs-to-know-about-the-migrant-crisis-video-report/

 

 

 

 

Hardly surprising with Sleepy Joe and his dfatt sidekick shouting "Refugees welcome". You can't blame the freiloaders for taking them up on it.

2 minutes ago, alanrchase said:

Why isn't Trump's wall working? Billions of dollars squandered. 

Because the Democrat Demolition Squad made huge detours around it.

On 8/21/2024 at 5:04 AM, riclag said:

I like to see this all unraveled between these two , harris & Trump ! Imop

“A migrant crisis that has engulfed the US is  a decisive issue in  the November election between Trump & harris”.

 

According to the article “over 9 million people have poured over, never before -encountered levels  of immigration since biden took office”.

 

https://nypost.com/2024/08/20/us-news/what-every-american-needs-to-know-about-the-migrant-crisis-video-report/

 

 

 

 

Thank you for reminding us that we had a Senate Bill addressing immigration with Republican a Democrat support that was ordered to be stopped by the Republican Party majority in the House of Representatives at the behest of Trump.

On 8/21/2024 at 5:04 AM, riclag said:

I like to see this all unraveled between these two , harris & Trump ! Imop

“A migrant crisis that has engulfed the US is  a decisive issue in  the November election between Trump & harris”.

 

According to the article “over 9 million people have poured over, never before -encountered levels  of immigration since biden took office”.

 

https://nypost.com/2024/08/20/us-news/what-every-american-needs-to-know-about-the-migrant-crisis-video-report/

 

 

 

 

you say 9 , some say 35

 

51 minutes ago, alanrchase said:

Why isn't Trump's wall working? Billions of dollars squandered. 

The Democrats blocked it. They gave $100bn to Ukraine instead. How dumb are Democrats? Ruining their own country whilst giving away free money.

7 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

And yet the same data shows that the Biden administration has delivered excellent results since January 2024. The number of people crossing the border has been significantly reduced and if the trend continues, should be better than when Trump was in office , excluding the period when the borders were closed because of Covid. 

The numbers could have been reduced even further if Trump had not blocked the  bipartisan funding Bill from passing. Trump wanted the border crisis so that he could have an issue for the  election campaign.

After opening the border to all, 3 yrs later, they decide to do something.

 

And that is suppose to be a good thing ?  

1 minute ago, KhunLA said:

After opening the border to all, 3 yrs later, they decide to do something.

 

And that is suppose to be a good thing ?  

They will end Ukraine war in 3 years. 

2 minutes ago, maesariang said:

They will end Ukraine war in 3 years. 

We haven't fixed anything in almost 4 yrs, give us four more.   Sadly, it worked for obama ... go figure

 

Som nam naa

2 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

We haven't fixed anything in almost 4 yrs, give us four more.   Sadly, it worked for obama ... go figure

 

Som nam naa

Obama had 4.7 to 10% unemployment. All he did was talk. He did have low inflation but that was largely due to high unemployment.

8 minutes ago, maesariang said:

Obama had 4.7 to 10% unemployment. All he did was talk. He did have low inflation but that was largely due to high unemployment.

bush 2 & obama, getting re-appointed tells you everything you need to know about USA politics.   Yanks need to get ready for 4 years of harris.

 

Here's your president, take it or leave it .... cheney in control, how can anyone not see what was coming ...

... I LEFT  😎

 

Trump was like an anomaly in the Matrix 

Just now, KhunLA said:

bush 2 & obama, getting re-appointed tells you everything you need to know about USA politics. 

 

Here's your president, take it or leave it .... cheney in control, how can anyone not see what was coming ...

... I LEFT  😎

True. Voters choose a war criminal then 8 years of fluff from Obama. I supported Kerry and Romney. 

1 hour ago, alanrchase said:

Why isn't Trump's wall working? Billions of dollars squandered. 

I personally don't feel that a wall would work 100% anyway.  These migrants are willing to face death on the march to get to the river or border areas.  A wall can only deter certain individuals.  The persistent ones will never stop until they can successfully get into our nation or whatever nation that they are seeking refuge in.  This can only clearly show how bad life must be in those countries from which they flee.  At the same time the USA is PAYIING big $$$ to those countries to "fix" the major problems causing these people to flee.  When will our elected officials recognize that just throwing money at a problem is the only fix?  I have lived in some of those countries from which people are fleeing - into the US or into Europe and can understand why they want freedom but just money will never fix that kind of problem - just like in the US, giving poor people money will not get them out of poverty nor even entice them to try ...my opinion only of course.

1 minute ago, Presnock said:

I personally don't feel that a wall would work 100% anyway.  These migrants are willing to face death on the march to get to the river or border areas.  A wall can only deter certain individuals.  The persistent ones will never stop until they can successfully get into our nation or whatever nation that they are seeking refuge in.  This can only clearly show how bad life must be in those countries from which they flee.  At the same time the USA is PAYIING big $$$ to those countries to "fix" the major problems causing these people to flee.  When will our elected officials recognize that just throwing money at a problem is the only fix?  I have lived in some of those countries from which people are fleeing - into the US or into Europe and can understand why they want freedom but just money will never fix that kind of problem - just like in the US, giving poor people money will not get them out of poverty nor even entice them to try ...my opinion only of course.

Wall better than giving money to Ukraine 

2 minutes ago, maesariang said:

Wall better than giving money to Ukraine 

Better Ukraine than US soldiers...unless Putin realizes his folly, then NATO will be sending soldiers, Belarussia I read is now mobilizing their troops along the border.  Obama and Trump didn't stop Putin when they had the chance and that is why the Ukraine problem still exists today.  Of course this is my opinion based on all that I have read over the years - I am 77, a VN vet who has lived in countries around the world - some not agreeing with the US some staunch allies that I would not like to see the US abandon in favor of the Russians or Chinese or N. Korea.  

1 minute ago, Presnock said:

Better Ukraine than US soldiers...unless Putin realizes his folly, then NATO will be sending soldiers, Belarussia I read is now mobilizing their troops along the border.  Obama and Trump didn't stop Putin when they had the chance and that is why the Ukraine problem still exists today.  Of course this is my opinion based on all that I have read over the years - I am 77, a VN vet who has lived in countries around the world - some not agreeing with the US some staunch allies that I would not like to see the US abandon in favor of the Russians or Chinese or N. Korea.  

Better to stay home. No money or soldiers. Europe's problem.

Just now, maesariang said:

Better to stay home. No money or soldiers. Europe's problem.

Well since the ancestors of most US citizens today came from Europe I sure can't imagine the majority favoring to abandom them as Putin comes rolling.  He will realize from his own people eventually that the cost will be too high (at least I hope he

does before he does something even dumber such as nukes).  People are more alike even  though they may be from many different lands but as sons continue to fall for a dumb play they will rebel.  It happened during the VN days and the Afghani days even though the numbers were much smaller than VN.   Hopefully the world will convince Putin to tone down his desire to expand back to the USSR days.

1 minute ago, Presnock said:

Well since the ancestors of most US citizens today came from Europe I sure can't imagine the majority favoring to abandom them as Putin comes rolling.  He will realize from his own people eventually that the cost will be too high (at least I hope he

does before he does something even dumber such as nukes).  People are more alike even  though they may be from many different lands but as sons continue to fall for a dumb play they will rebel.  It happened during the VN days and the Afghani days even though the numbers were much smaller than VN.   Hopefully the world will convince Putin to tone down his desire to expand back to the USSR days.

Germany, France and UK combined can't beat Russia? Ukraine alone is nearly beating them. Let Europe fund it.

Just now, maesariang said:

Germany, France and UK combined can't beat Russia? Ukraine alone is nearly beating them. Let Europe fund it.

Yeah, as a US veteran, VN volunteer etc, I believe in doing my fair share.  Even at 77 if the US requested, I would volunteer today.  I have no doubt that the EU combined couldn't do ti alone, I recall all the stories I have read about WWII and if the US hadn't joined them then, they would all be speaking German while the Asians would be speaking Japanese.  But, I am not a favorite of war, it is not pretty, it is not fun and unless one has experienced all that a war brings, one will never realize just how ugly it can get.  I have friends that today, still suffer severe medical conditions because of the VN war.  But they too only suffer in person to another vet as anyone else just doesn't understand and can never fully understand.  

2 minutes ago, Presnock said:

Yeah, as a US veteran, VN volunteer etc, I believe in doing my fair share.  Even at 77 if the US requested, I would volunteer today.  I have no doubt that the EU combined couldn't do ti alone, I recall all the stories I have read about WWII and if the US hadn't joined them then, they would all be speaking German while the Asians would be speaking Japanese.  But, I am not a favorite of war, it is not pretty, it is not fun and unless one has experienced all that a war brings, one will never realize just how ugly it can get.  I have friends that today, still suffer severe medical conditions because of the VN war.  But they too only suffer in person to another vet as anyone else just doesn't understand and can never fully understand.  

Germany is an ally now. Their army was massive in ww2. Europe needs to sort itself out. Been 79 years since ww2.

 

 

Drip feeding anti-Democrat topics into this forum is without doubt having a huge impact.....I'm pretty certain KH's team are looking closely at how to counteract what is happening on AN.

9 hours ago, Roo Island said:

NY Post. Who reads this rag?

 

Even its owner doesn't read it.