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5 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

Speaking of cognitive decline:

Biden's exit makes Trump the oldest nominee in U.S. history

Trump, at 78, becomes the oldest nominee in U.S. history if Harris or someone else younger than Trump succeeds Biden atop the Democratic ticket.

 

https://www.axios.com/2024/07/21/kamala-harris-age-presidential-nominee

 

 

 

 

 

so Age matters now?, it didnt right up until Biden got removed

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7 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

Ohh yes they do. But Trump is thus far winning the falsehoods competition by a mile!

 

 

"In CBS' list linked above, four major falsehoods by Trump. And regarding Harris' remarks, one rated inconclusive and the other rated "Partially true, needs context."

 

 

yeah, partly true or needs context is not given to Trump. 2 tier fact checking between Dems & Reps

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1 minute ago, frank83628 said:

yeah, partly true or needs context is not given to Trump. 2 tier fact checking between Dems & Reps

Can't give that when his lies are "pants on fire" level. Please tell me you understand that.

 

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1 hour ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

 

Trump: "In Springfield, they're eating the dogs — the people that came in — they're eating the cats. They're eating — they're eating the pets of the people that live there. And this is what's happening in our country, and it's a shame."

 

 

 

 

 

More likely just JD's family eating possum. 

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39 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

Certainly Trump showed his vigour and mental acuity are still at top level. However, since most Americans think Biden and Harris did not handle the economy or immigration very well, Trump could have hit a home run focusing on their failures. Even though he did bring up immigration a lot, this was also ancillary, and rarely about their policies. Of course this was caused by the structure of the debate, which gave far too much power to the moderators, who in effect dictated the direction of the debate.

 

However, the debate allowed Harris to make the debate, in large part, about Trump's record, when it should have been about Biden and  Harris' record.

 

Despite her annoying nasal voice, and fake smirking and laughter, Harris did not fumble the ball as badly as Biden. I never thought she would, as a qualified lawyer she's used to arguing. She did lie a lot, and was rarely called out by the moderators.

 

I still thought Trump outargued her, but maybe too much, taking all of her points, and thus making it about his own record, rather than hers. The pet eating thing was an unncessary fumble. 

 

Harris did not set out much of her policy and did not give voters much reason to vote for her. In the end you can call this debate a tie and it won't matter much in the election. They said Trump lost 3 debates against Clinton, which he didn't. And he still won

 

 

30 Trump Lies to 1 lies Harris most Transparent 

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2 hours ago, frank83628 said:

yes, all career politicians on the take, who solved very little over the years, Trumps comes along an throws a spanner in the works, upsets the status quo. thats why they don't like him and voters do, they're fed up with self serving greed in charge and wanted a change.

An argument to be made yes, but I was commenting on the suggestion that she was not qualified to be President in comparison to Mr Trump.

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