Trump and Vance continue to lie about and demonise Haitians in Springfield

[johnnybangkok]

1 hour ago, xylophone said:

Ah Johnny, don't forget who you are dealing with on the forum, because the "diehard trumpies" don't want to know/see/recognise anything which is contrary to their cult belief, so they refuse to believe it even when the words come out of their cult leader's mouth – – it is called cognitive dissonance, as if you didn't already know, and for others, this is an explanation of it: –

There are four theoretic paradigms of cognitive dissonance, the mental stress people experienced when exposed to information that is inconsistent with their beliefs, ideals or values: Belief Disconfirmation, Induced Compliance, Free Choice, and Effort Justification, which respectively explain what happens after a person acts inconsistently, relative to their intellectual perspectives; what happens after a person makes decisions and what are the effects upon a person who has expended much effort to achieve a goal. Common to each paradigm of cognitive-dissonance theory is the tenet: People invested in a given perspective shall—when confronted with contrary evidence—expend great effort to justify retaining the challenged perspective.

 

So you have absolutely no hope of being able to get these folk to see what is actually happening in the world, because they refuse to believe it, simple as that (however full marks for trying!).

Oh I'm only too aware. 

[Hanaguma]

As usual, the Democrats are focusing on the trees and ignoring the forest. The idea to allow 30,000 unvetted migrants a month full access to the USA is madness.  Not to mention putting so many in one small city. 

[still kicking]

16 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

As usual, the Democrats are focusing on the trees and ignoring the forest. The idea to allow 30,000 unvetted migrants a month full access to the USA is madness.  Not to mention putting so many in one small city. 

 

[candide]

22 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

"They're eating the dogs.

 

They're eating the cats."

 

You seem to be a sucker for Trump's lies.

They're eating the dogs.

 

They're eating the cats."

 

Next time they will be eating you! 😀

[candide]

18 minutes ago, still kicking said:

 

He wetted himself again? 

[herfiehandbag]

On 9/19/2024 at 5:00 PM, DougieMax said:

And you no doubt have a link to that confession, right?

Umh, he said he was doing so on live TV!

[Danderman123]

On 9/19/2024 at 5:00 AM, DougieMax said:

And you no doubt have a link to that confession, right?

It's amazing that you don't know that JD Vance admitted on live TV that he made up the story.

 

So, you have been posting for a week about the story about pets being eaten, not knowing that everyone else thought you were a loon.

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On 9/19/2024 at 5:00 PM, DougieMax said:

And you no doubt have a link to that confession, right?

Yes

The American media,” Vance suggested, “totally ignored this stuff until Donald Trump and I started talking about cat memes. If I have to create stories so that the American media actually pays attention to the suffering of the American people, then that’s what I’m going to do.”  

“You just said that you’re ‘creating’ a story,” Bash responded. “You just said that this is a story that you created,” she repeated. Vance replied, “Yes!” 

https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/4886524-jd-vance-lies-maga/

 

[Captain Monday]

Does Trump “smoke his own dope”? If he believes something to be true, does that make it a lie? JD Vance had stated clearly, he is free to “tell stories” to bring attention to the subject of immigration, or anything else. 
 

MAGA. A worldview consisting almost entirely of “alternate facts” 

[jerrymahoney]

Ohio Republican Governor Condemns Trump, Vance in NYT Op-Ed

Updated Sep 20, 2024 at 11:24 AM EDT

 

In his op-ed for the Times titled, "I'm the Governor of Ohio. I Don't Recognize the Springfield That Trump and Vance Describe," DeWine wrote, "Springfield has a rich history of providing refuge for the oppressed and being a place of opportunity. As a stop on the Underground Railroad, the Gammon House, which still stands, was a safe haven for escaped slaves seeking freedom. It is disappointing to me that Springfield has become the epicenter of vitriol over America's immigration policy, because it has long been a community of great diversity."

The governor added: "As a supporter of former President Donald Trump and Senator JD Vance, I am saddened by how they and others continue to repeat claims that lack evidence and disparage the legal migrants living in Springfield. This rhetoric hurts the city and its people, and it hurts those who have spent their lives there."

 

https://www.newsweek.com/ohio-governor-mike-dewine-condemns-donald-trump-jd-vance-springfield-1956824

[cdemundo]

I have learned from J.D. Vance.

I have changed my terminology.

No longer do I say Haitians, following the lead of Vance I say "people from Haita".

(pronounced hay-shuh).

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What to know about the threats in Springfield, Ohio, after false claims about Haitian immigrants
A small Ohio city has been inundated with hoax bomb threats since last week’s presidential debate, when former President Donald Trump falsely accused members of Springfield’s Haitian community of abducting and eating cats and dogs...

More than 30 bomb threats have been made against schools, government buildings and city officials’ homes since last week, forcing evacuations and closures. Springfield also canceled its annual celebration of diversity, arts and culture in response to the threats, and on Tuesday, state police were deployed to city schools.

https://archive.ph/uiry9

 

‘This is costing our city’: Bomb threats and evacuations take financial toll on Springfield following Trump’s false claims

Springfield Mayor Ron Rue has spent over a week scrambling to respond to a wave of bomb threats while subtly noting how the tab to keep people safe is growing daily.

“This is costing the city. We’re definitely in the hundreds of thousands of dollars in expense. We haven’t calculated the overtime, the contracts that need to be secured to be able to secure and communicate… take care of our city,” Rue told CNN’s Boris Sanchez earlier this week.

https://www.komu.com/news/this-is-costing-our-city-bomb-threats-and-evacuations-take-financial-toll-on-springfield-following/article_a12a97b0-bec6-59a0-a8a4-de962b1aa54d.html

[Danderman123]

On 9/22/2024 at 11:28 PM, impulse said:

 

Wow. You are one of the last deadenders on "they're eating the dogs, they're eating the cats".

 

The rest of us know that JD Vance admitted making the story up, so everyone who reads your posts understands you aren't keeping up on current events.

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[Captain Flack]

Post and all replies to it, using deliberate misspelling of names have been removed.

[Hanaguma]

23 hours ago, Yagoda said:

 

 

Exactly right. The democrats concnetrate on the irrelevant details and ignore the larger issue. Something over a million migrants have either entered the US under the Bideb-Harris expansion of theTemporary Protected Status program, or are in the pipeline to come. Interestingly, more than half are Venezuelan. 

[gargamon]

36 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

Interestingly, more than half are Venezuelan. 

And what's going on in Venezuela? A president who lost the election is refusing to give up power. Remind you of anyone?

 

 

[Captain Monday]

The Canton OH woman (not Springfield) has no connection to Haiti or any foreign country

 

Many MAGA dupes have been deceived by . So as usual they would be better informed if they did not listed to questionable “news” sources spreading right-wing lies 

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/fact-check-ohio-woman-accused-003015124.html

 

 

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[Danderman123]

16 hours ago, Hanaguma said:

Exactly right. The democrats concnetrate on the irrelevant details and ignore the larger issue. Something over a million migrants have either entered the US under the Bideb-Harris expansion of theTemporary Protected Status program, or are in the pipeline to come. Interestingly, more than half are Venezuelan. 

Congress created Temporary Protected Status (TPS) in the Immigration Act of 1990.

[Danderman123]

16 hours ago, Hanaguma said:

Exactly right. The democrats concnetrate on the irrelevant details and ignore the larger issue. Something over a million migrants have either entered the US under the Bideb-Harris expansion of theTemporary Protected Status program, or are in the pipeline to come. Interestingly, more than half are Venezuelan. 

Scary brown people!

[Danderman123]

5 hours ago, Regyai said:

 

The question is if you believe Trump when he says:

 

They're eating the cats.

 

They're eating the dogs. 

[Yagoda]

38 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

Do you believe that Haitians are eating the dogs and cats in Springfield?

I wouldn't doubt it but I don't much care, there are more reasons than pet munching to mass Deport them all.

[Yagoda]

36 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

Scary brown people!

You racist. Always focusing on skin color. Well, the Democrats are  the party of the klan and hamas so I guess it's par for the course

[Danderman123]

1 hour ago, Yagoda said:

I wouldn't doubt it but I don't much care, there are more reasons than pet munching to mass Deport them all.

And those reasons are...........?

[Danderman123]

1 hour ago, Yagoda said:

You racist. Always focusing on skin color. Well, the Democrats are  the party of the klan and hamas so I guess it's par for the course

I was joking.

 

But, you are the one who wants to deport Haitians even though they are here legally.

[Yagoda]

2 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

I was joking.

 

But, you are the one who wants to deport Haitians even though they are here legally.

No you werent. Your ilk is obsessed with race.

[Danderman123]

11 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

No you werent. Your ilk is obsessed with race.

Tell me again why you want the Haitians deported?

[Amethyst]

Several posts with non-credible sources and debunked or unsubstantiated/unsourced claims have been removed.

 

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Trump Once Exploited Undocumented Workers; Now He Demonizes Them

 In 1980, Donald Trump had a chance to take a stand against using undocumented Polish workers in the New York construction industry. Instead, he hired them to demolish the old Bonwit Teller department store building (including the Art Deco friezes that Trump had claimed he was going to donate to the Metropolitan Museum of Art) to make way for Trump Tower...
The workers were paid as little as $4 an hour for their dangerous labor, less than half the union wage, if they got paid at all.”

https://archive.ph/uUYaY#selection-691.0-703.267

[Danderman123]

5 hours ago, placeholder said:

Trump Once Exploited Undocumented Workers; Now He Demonizes Them

 In 1980, Donald Trump had a chance to take a stand against using undocumented Polish workers in the New York construction industry. Instead, he hired them to demolish the old Bonwit Teller department store building (including the Art Deco friezes that Trump had claimed he was going to donate to the Metropolitan Museum of Art) to make way for Trump Tower...
The workers were paid as little as $4 an hour for their dangerous labor, less than half the union wage, if they got paid at all.”

https://archive.ph/uUYaY#selection-691.0-703.267

Those Polish workers were not scary brown People, so the Trumpers don't care.

[Danderman123]

The big question is what date FOX News will declare a new migrant caravan is coming from Central America.

 

Trump voters tend to show up on Election Day, so a November 1 start date is probably optimal.