Spreaders of Conspiracy Theories: Unmasking the Motivations Behind the Lies

[impulse]

14 minutes ago, Celsius said:

Also Team America World Police is a documentary.

 

Are you confusing Team America with Idiocracy?

 

 

 

[Dan O]

5 hours ago, impulse said:

 

It's a piece of drivel, conveniently forgetting revelations in the Twitter files, Zuck coming forward (4 years later) and apologizing for squelching accurate information, 51 "intelligence experts" claiming the laptop was fake, claims that the vaccine was "one shot, then you can visit grandma" (and that there would be no adverse side effects), shutting down restaurants was "following the science", but keeping the liquor stores open was okay, that walking on the beach (in the winter) is crazy dangerous, and on and on.

 

Way too many conspiracy theories have been coming true, especially since voice has been given to people outside the MSM.   Voices that they'd rather you not listen to.

 

You shouldn't be talking as your one of the ones that spread false and misleading political post.

[impulse]

1 hour ago, bradiston said:

55555. Nice try. Your brain has been enlisted by the enemy. Now that's a conspiracy theory I will subscribe to!

 

With over 10x as many registered Dems in mainstream journalism as registered Repubs, you don't figure there's a reason that Dems want you to listen only to the MSM? 

 

And the reason isn't journalistic integrity...

 

https://www.theamericanjournalist.org/_files/ugd/46a507_4fe1c4d6ec6d4c229895282965258a7a.pdf

 

 

[farang51]

17 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

With over 10x as many registered Dems in mainstream journalism as registered Repubs, you don't figure there's a reason that Dems want you to listen only to the MSM?

 

I have never hears that Dems only want people to listen to MSM, I think you are making up stuff.

 

In the serious news outlets, it doesn't matter which party, if any, a journalist is registered to; they have a big beautiful wall between news and opinion. Those outlets also value facts over lies and they try to check things before they publish and if not true or if they cannot confirm the things, they do not publish them.

[impulse]

5 minutes ago, farang51 said:

I have never hears that Dems only want people to listen to MSM, I think you are making up stuff.

 

In the serious news outlets, it doesn't matter which party, if any, a journalist is registered to; they have a big beautiful wall between news and opinion. Those outlets also value facts over lies and they try to check things before they publish and if not true or if they cannot confirm the things, they do not publish them.

 

Seriously?  HRC is even advocating re-education camps for people who listen to the wrong sources.

 

https://edition.cnn.com/videos/politics/2023/10/06/hillary-clinton-maga-cult-extremists-donald-trump-house-republicans-amanpour-cnntm-vpx.cnn

 

 

 

 

[AndreasHG]

One thing worth noting is that Hollywood movies, starting with "Three Days of the Condor" released in 1975, have consistently promoted conspiracy theories.

 

International markets have become increasingly important to the American film industry, and portraying Russian, Chinese or Middle Eastern citizens as villains does not always attract global audiences or pass the scrutiny of local censors.

But since most Hollywood films base their plots on the eternal struggle between good and evil, screenwriters had to find alternative villains, acceptable to their broader audience.

The solution is to resort, more and more frequently, to some kind of domestic villain. Good Americans vs. Evil Americans. The latter personified by the conspirators of the "deep state", the "establishment", the "mainstream media" or the greedy "rich and powerful".

 

Over time this approach has been so successful and effective that it has convinced naïve Americans, and much of the international public, that America is actually at war with itself.

Not only have conspiracy theories dominated social media, but they contributed to the election of Donald Trump in 2016 and became reality on January 6, 2020, when a mob stormed the U.S. Capitol, aiming to lynch the Vice President Mike Pence and the House Speaker Nancy Pelosi.

 

It is difficult to say where all this will lead us: to a new civil war or to a new international war, triggered by the perceived weakness of the United States, based on its internal division.

 

It goes without saying that a divided America is a weak America, an America fatally exposed to external dangers.
And we can already see who is preparing to strike.

 

Edited 4 hours ago by AndreasHG

[farang51]

15 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

Seriously?  HRC is even advocating re-education camps for people who listen to the wrong sources.

 

https://edition.cnn.com/videos/politics/2023/10/06/hillary-clinton-maga-cult-extremists-donald-trump-house-republicans-amanpour-cnntm-vpx.cnn

 

I do not see that it contradicts anything I wrote.

 

The problem is people reading and viewing outlets that are not serious news outlets; outlets that willingly and purposely spread lies and rumours. It has been clear for some time that USA has a cult (partly due to those outlets) and the usual way to get people out of a cult is to de-program them.

 

Added: A way to de-program people can be to get them to read/view the serious news outlets.

 

Edited 4 hours ago by farang51

[JCauto]

6 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

IMO people will believe conspiracy theories because they don't trust the government/ authorities to tell the truth.

Were you one of those interviewed for this article? It seems to describe many characteristics of people of a certain political affiliation on AN.

[bradiston]

2 hours ago, Watawattana said:

Oh!  I was told that the word gullible had been removed from the dictionary.  I believed them!  Was that a conspiracy? 😬

Depends who told you. And you could always check for yourself. That would tell you everything you need to know about your informant, right?

[frank83628]

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

No.

His guilty plea is recorded here.

 

Lets have a little less of your misinformation.

 

 

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/wikileaks-founder-pleads-guilty-and-sentenced-conspiring-obtain-and-disclose-classified

yes, either admit to that or stay in prison...

 

 

 

[bradiston]

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Assange spent over a decade in hiding because he wasn’t man enough to face justice.

 

 

I think there's some truth in that. But there was no knowing what sort of treatment he would have received had he handed himself in to "take the rap". He could have been a free man some years ago if he got only a few years. But if he'd got 20 years? That may be what was uppermost in his mind. Also, what would you irvi have done in that situation? And for a lot of the time he had a couple of rape allegations in Sweden pending. Anyway, he's done his time I guess, one way or another, so good luck to him now he's out and about.

[Chomper Higgot]

8 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

yes, either admit to that or stay in prison...

 

 

 

So I provide you with the actual DOJ record of what Assange actually  pled guilty to and you post Assange’s statement that interestingly makes no mention of what he pled guilty to.

[Chomper Higgot]

10 minutes ago, bradiston said:

I think there's some truth in that. But there was no knowing what sort of treatment he would have received had he handed himself in to "take the rap". He could have been a free man some years ago if he got only a few years. But if he'd got 20 years? That may be what was uppermost in his mind. Also, what would you irvi have done in that situation? And for a lot of the time he had a couple of rape allegations in Sweden pending. Anyway, he's done his time I guess, one way or another, so good luck to him now he's out and about.

I’m not sure you are aware, but when an individual breaks the law they don’t get to have a say in the sentence.

 

 

 

[nauseus]

53 minutes ago, farang51 said:

I have never hears that Dems only want people to listen to MSM, I think you are making up stuff.

 

In the serious news outlets, it doesn't matter which party, if any, a journalist is registered to; they have a big beautiful wall between news and opinion. Those outlets also value facts over lies and they try to check things before they publish and if not true or if they cannot confirm the things, they do not publish them.

 

And how many of these "serious" news outlets exist? Can you name some?

[bradiston]

1 hour ago, impulse said:

 

With over 10x as many registered Dems in mainstream journalism as registered Repubs, you don't figure there's a reason that Dems want you to listen only to the MSM? 

 

And the reason isn't journalistic integrity...

 

https://www.theamericanjournalist.org/_files/ugd/46a507_4fe1c4d6ec6d4c229895282965258a7a.pdf

 

 

I don't trust your sources. And you see, you exhibit the usual paranoid projection of "They (could be anyone on your hate list) want you to (fill in as imagined)". I guess you're an American. Maybe most Republicans aren't smart enough to work as journalists? I mean, they sure don't appear to be that smart.

[bradiston]

5 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I’m not sure you are aware, but when an individual breaks the law they don’t get to have a say in the sentence.

 

 

 

It's exactly what I was saying. He had no idea what his sentence might have been if he'd handed himself in. So, he didn't.

[John Drake]

7 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

IMO people will believe conspiracy theories because they don't trust the government/ authorities to tell the truth.

 

Yes, if there is one thing we should have learned it's to trust the government:

 

Bay of Pigs

Gulf of Tonkin

Watergate

MKUltra

WMDs in Iraq

 

Now, don't forget to keep asking questions about Maui and North Carolina. East Palestine has been successfully erased from the memory bank already.

 

[Chomper Higgot]

16 minutes ago, bradiston said:

It's exactly what I was saying. He had no idea what his sentence might have been if he'd handed himself in. So, he didn't.

He didn’t not hand himself in, he absconded and hid.

 

There is no right to not answer a court summons and hence that was another law he broke.

 

 

[billd766]

2 minutes ago, John Drake said:

 

Yes, if there is one thing we should have learned it's to trust the government:

 

Bay of Pigs

Gulf of Tonkin

Watergate

MKUltra

WMDs in Iraq

 

Now, don't forget to keep asking questions about Maui and North Carolina. East Palestine has been successfully erased from the memory bank already.

 

So we should only trust Trump and Vance and Truth Social/Fox news?

 

They are eating the dogs. 

They are eating the cats.

They are eating the pets in Springfield Ohio, springs instantly to my mind.

 

That was disproven as fake weeks ago. 

 

Did YOU believe it? After all Trump quoted it, Vance backed him up and they would never tell a lie, would they?

 

How about Trump quoting Taylor Swift backing and supporting him? Did you believe that as well?

[Yagoda]

4 hours ago, koolkarl said:

One particular group uses it as 1 tool to greatly influence the gullible.

Exactly. Any time there is something that makes the Democratic Party look bad, their Censorship Commissars and Media Lapdogs can call it a conspiracy and misinformation and all their mindless minions nod their heads and go back to watching the View and posting all over web forums.

[Smilin in Thailand]

Submit to authority!

 

Don't dare think for yourself!

 

You are a mindless automaton and will do as you are told.

 

This is what OP is really saying to you.

[impulse]

7 minutes ago, billd766 said:

They are eating the dogs. 

They are eating the cats.

They are eating the pets in Springfield Ohio, springs instantly to my mind.

 

That was disproven as fake weeks ago. 

 

Since that is literally impossible to disprove, I wonder what your sources are?

 

(Unless, of course, you have videos of every resident and every dog and cat in town, and someone watched them all.)

 

[TroubleandGrumpy]

2 hours ago, Purdey said:

One often sees people saying, "Do your own research" and think, if you were right then apply for your PhD.

The fact is, there are people who think they can guess the truth without having a real qualification.

 

You need to Google 'why are smart educated people more prone to fake news and conspiracy theories'.

 

[farang51]

55 minutes ago, nauseus said:

 

And how many of these "serious" news outlets exist? Can you name some?

 

You may not agree on the ones I mention here, in which case you simply do not understand how serious news outlets work. I used to work as a journalist and believe me when I tell you that New York Times and Washington Post have standards that any serious news outlet in other countries tries to emulate.

 

There are many other serious outlets, those two are the best known to a foreigner like me.

 

Someone earlier mentioned Hunter's laptop as an example that the mainstream media is biased. On the contrary, that case had many signs saying it was fake; thus they didn't publish. Not to protect Hunter.

 

The same mainstream media didn't publish the Steele dossier because they could not verify it's claims. They did not do it to protect Trump.

 

In both cases, they tried to protect the truth.

 

Do the mainstream media make mistakes, surely, like everybody does. The difference is that they admit and correct their mistakes. An example: https://www.nytimes.com/international/section/corrections

Edited 2 hours ago by farang51

[TroubleandGrumpy]

7 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

Since that is literally impossible to disprove, I wonder what your sources are?

(Unless, of course, you have videos of every resident and every dog and cat in town, and someone watched them all.)

The Trump comment went viral because of that song/video - way out of proportion.

But definitely the residents of Ohio are sick of all the illegal immigrants dumped there and their crimes and disorder etc. - just search Youtube there are lots of vids about it.  

The claims of them eating cats/dogs probably follows on from the immigrants that were reported for catching the geese in the town's lake. 

Massively all out of proportion are the conspiracy theories that are attacking what Trump stupidly said in response to the song/video - not a politician - which is a good thing.

Funny how there is so much on the net attacking Trump's error - but the lies Harris said about what Trump said at Charlottesville are given a 'pass' - and all the other lies such as no US Troops in an active zone overseas?? 

Just what is the conspiracy - Trump making a dumb comment - or the massive over reactions to it???

[Dan O]

27 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Exactly. Any time there is something that makes the Democratic Party look bad, their Censorship Commissars and Media Lapdogs can call it a conspiracy and misinformation and all their mindless minions nod their heads and go back to watching the View and posting all over web forums.

You seem to do your share of mindless posting of false and misleading information yet like to deflect on those that post and disagree with you. Where do you get your great information from? 

[candide]

MAGAs defending the conspiracy theories stance. Who would have thought? 😀 

[impulse]

7 minutes ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

Funny how there is so much on the net attacking Trump's error - but the lies Harris said about what Trump said at Charlottesville are given a 'pass' - and all the other lies such as no US Troops in an active zone overseas?? 

Just what is the conspiracy - Trump making a dumb comment - or the massive over reactions to it???

 

Going back to the link in my previous post showing 10x as many registered Dems as registered Repubs in mainstream journalism, it's no surprise to me that it's so much easier to find an "Orange Man Bad" story than a "Biden's Dementia" story.  Until the MSM couldn't cover for him any more.

 

[Smilin in Thailand]

5 minutes ago, candide said:

MAGAs defending the conspiracy theories stance. Who would have thought? 😀 

 

Free thinking people have a right to think and act autonomously.

 

Brain washed fools like you just want us to shut up and get with the program.

 

You will become extinct because you are spineless and incapable of rational thought.

[TroubleandGrumpy]

5 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

Going back to the link in my previous post showing 10x as many registered Dems as registered Repubs in mainstream journalism, it's no surprise to me that it's so much easier to find an "Orange Man Bad" story than a "Biden's Dementia" story.  Until the MSM couldn't cover for him any more.

 

Nail on the head right there - until they could no longer deny, they maintained their 'conspiracy' to cover up Biden's dementia.

I wonder how long they will continue their conspiracy to cover up Harris' complete lack of ability or intelligence.