placeholder Posted October 15 Posted October 15 18 hours ago, BangkokReady said: He's saying murders have bad genes, not immigrants. Or are you saying that all migrants are murderers? Why constantly lie? Do you think no one will check? 🙄 Thanks for the willful naivete. In an anti illegal immigration speech he pivots to talking about criminality and bad genes. This is coming from the guy who said this: DURHAM, New Hampshire, Dec 16 (Reuters) - Donald Trump, the Republican presidential frontrunner, said on Saturday that undocumented immigrants were "poisoning the blood of our country," repeating language that has previously drawn criticism as xenophobic and echoing of Nazi rhetoric... Trump used the same "poisoning the blood" language during an interview with The National Pulse, a right-leaning website, that was published in late September. It prompted a rebuke from the Anti-Defamation League, whose leader, Jonathan Greenblatt, called the language "racist, xenophobic and despicable." https://archive.ph/IW6qy Here's a word you might want to contemplate: con·text /ˈkäntekst/ noun the circumstances that form the setting for an event, statement, or idea, and in terms of which it can be fully understood and assessed. https://www.google.com/search?q=context&oq=context&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOTIGCAEQRRg8MgYIAhBFGDwyBggDEEUYPDIGCAQQRRhB0gEIMTU3OGowajeoAgCwAgA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 2 1
Danderman123 Posted October 15 Author Posted October 15 8 minutes ago, BangkokReady said: I think what you should be asking is, if you dislike someone, should you lie about them? Or, if they are as bad as you say, should you simply tell the truth and allow people to make up their own minds? You might also ask yourself, does it help your cause to constantly lie about the person you dislike, since it lowers your credibility as people simply think, "Oh, there goes a Trump hater lying about Trump again, don't need to listen to their lies". Trump’s Racist Rants against Immigrants Hide under the Language of Eugenics "Anti-immigrant rhetoric in the U.S. comes straight out of the playbook of eugenics, deeply dishonest scientism that criminality, poverty and a host of other ills were all genetically inherited" You can complain to Scientific American. 1 1
BangkokReady Posted October 15 Posted October 15 2 minutes ago, placeholder said: Thanks for the willful naivete. In an anti illegal immigration speech he pivots to talking about criminality and bad genes. This is coming from the guy who said this: DURHAM, New Hampshire, Dec 16 (Reuters) - Donald Trump, the Republican presidential frontrunner, said on Saturday that undocumented immigrants were "poisoning the blood of our country," repeating language that has previously drawn criticism as xenophobic and echoing of Nazi rhetoric... Trump used the same "poisoning the blood" language during an interview with The National Pulse, a right-leaning website, that was published in late September. It prompted a rebuke from the Anti-Defamation League, whose leader, Jonathan Greenblatt, called the language "racist, xenophobic and despicable." https://archive.ph/IW6qy Here's a word you might want to contemplate: con·text /ˈkäntekst/ noun the circumstances that form the setting for an event, statement, or idea, and in terms of which it can be fully understood and assessed. https://www.google.com/search?q=context&oq=context&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOTIGCAEQRRg8MgYIAhBFGDwyBggDEEUYPDIGCAQQRRhB0gEIMTU3OGowajeoAgCwAgA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 Naïve? Trump didn't say the thing that the OP claimed he said. There's nothing naïve about pointing out that someone is lying. 🙄 1
BangkokReady Posted October 15 Posted October 15 4 minutes ago, Danderman123 said: Trump’s Racist Rants against Immigrants Hide under the Language of Eugenics "Anti-immigrant rhetoric in the U.S. comes straight out of the playbook of eugenics, deeply dishonest scientism that criminality, poverty and a host of other ills were all genetically inherited" You can complain to Scientific American. Complain? Why do I need to complain when I can simply quote what you said and then quote what Trump said? The two things don't match. He didn't say what you claim he said. You're lying. It's really very simple. 1
Popular Post placeholder Posted October 15 Popular Post Posted October 15 1 minute ago, BangkokReady said: Naïve? Trump didn't say the thing that the OP claimed he said. There's nothing naïve about pointing out that someone is lying. 🙄 You're the one who parsed Trump's statement to show that there wasn't a logical connection between his 2 claims in order to debunk that fact that Trump was making racist claims. 2 1 1
BangkokReady Posted October 15 Posted October 15 3 minutes ago, placeholder said: You're the one who parsed Trump's statement to show that there wasn't a logical connection between his 2 claims in order to debunk that fact that Trump was making racist claims. I showed that what the OP claimed was untrue, that's all. The OP lied. if you want to lie as well, that's up to you. 🤷♂️ 2
Popular Post placeholder Posted October 15 Popular Post Posted October 15 1 minute ago, BangkokReady said: I showed that what the OP claimed was untrue, that's all. The OP lied. if you want to lie as well, that's up to you. 🤷♂️ Or maybe it's you who aren't facing an obvious truth about context. "They poison mental institutions and prisons all over the world, not just in South America, not just to three or four countries that we think about, but all over the world. They’re coming into our country from Africa, from Asia, all over the world.” https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/trump-says-immigrants-are-poisoning-blood-country-biden-campaign-liken-rcna130141 Clearly, it's willful naivete on your part to ignore the fact that Trump hasn't been singling out Europeans or other nations where the population is mostly of European ancestry. And willful naivete is a form of dishonesty. 2 1 1
Popular Post BangkokReady Posted October 15 Popular Post Posted October 15 6 minutes ago, placeholder said: Or maybe it's you who aren't facing an obvious truth about context. "They poison mental institutions and prisons all over the world, not just in South America, not just to three or four countries that we think about, but all over the world. They’re coming into our country from Africa, from Asia, all over the world.” https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/trump-says-immigrants-are-poisoning-blood-country-biden-campaign-liken-rcna130141 Clearly, it's willful naivete on your part to ignore the fact that Trump hasn't been singling out Europeans or other nations where the population is mostly of European ancestry. And willful naivete is a form of dishonesty. The OP said he was talking about "immigrants". If he specifies the criminal and mentally ill, then he isn't talking about all immigrants. You can lie like your friend, of course, I can't stop you, but the words are there for everyone to see. 🤷♂️ 1 3
Popular Post placeholder Posted October 15 Popular Post Posted October 15 17 minutes ago, BangkokReady said: The OP said he was talking about "immigrants". If he specifies the criminal and mentally ill, then he isn't talking about all immigrants. You can lie like your friend, of course, I can't stop you, but the words are there for everyone to see. 🤷♂️ Thanks for continuing to be disingenuous. Still trying to treat Trump's statements as separate and unrelated propositions. If you ignore context and his history, you might have a point. But it would still be basically dishonest. 3 1
Danderman123 Posted October 15 Author Posted October 15 41 minutes ago, BangkokReady said: Complain? Why do I need to complain when I can simply quote what you said and then quote what Trump said? The two things don't match. He didn't say what you claim he said. You're lying. It's really very simple. Please quote Trump again. 1
Danderman123 Posted October 15 Author Posted October 15 44 minutes ago, BangkokReady said: Naïve? Trump didn't say the thing that the OP claimed he said. There's nothing naïve about pointing out that someone is lying. 🙄 In an interview on “The Hugh Hewitt Show” that aired Monday morning, former President Donald Trump criticized Vice President Kamala Harris for her policies on the southern border and suggested that migrants have “bad genes.” 1
BarraMarra Posted October 15 Posted October 15 21 hours ago, Danderman123 said: Since I back up my assertions with links, no lying here. Unlike Trump who can't stop himself from lying, and you don't mind. They're eating the cats. They're eating the dogs. Iv'e never met this woman.
BarraMarra Posted October 15 Posted October 15 18 hours ago, BangkokReady said: No. The point is that the OP is lying. He made and claim, and that claim is untrue. Why do you keep asking the same question bangkok he will not reply your flogging a dead horse move on.
Popular Post Hanaguma Posted October 15 Popular Post Posted October 15 3 hours ago, Danderman123 said: In an interview on “The Hugh Hewitt Show” that aired Monday morning, former President Donald Trump criticized Vice President Kamala Harris for her policies on the southern border and suggested that migrants have “bad genes.” Even your link says that Trump said "MURDERERS have bad genes". Nothing about migrants, either legal or illegal. But don't let the truth get in the way of your feelings. 1 1 1
Danderman123 Posted October 15 Author Posted October 15 3 hours ago, Hanaguma said: Even your link says that Trump said "MURDERERS have bad genes". Nothing about migrants, either legal or illegal. But don't let the truth get in the way of your feelings. Trump says immigrants who commit murder have ‘bad genes’ in ‘racist’ slam of migrants 1 1
Danderman123 Posted October 15 Author Posted October 15 4 hours ago, Hanaguma said: Even your link says that Trump said "MURDERERS have bad genes". Nothing about migrants, either legal or illegal. But don't let the truth get in the way of your feelings. Trump says immigrants are ‘poisoning the blood of our country.’ 1
Danderman123 Posted October 15 Author Posted October 15 1 minute ago, Hanaguma said: Quoting the Bad Orange Man from your link; "you know, now a murderer — I believe this: it’s in their genes" Nothing about immigrants. Please think about what you just posted. 2
Danderman123 Posted October 15 Author Posted October 15 4 hours ago, Hanaguma said: Even your link says that Trump said "MURDERERS have bad genes". Nothing about migrants, either legal or illegal. But don't let the truth get in the way of your feelings. By contrast, Trump has praised predominantly white audiences in Minnesota as blessed with “good genes.” 1
Hanaguma Posted October 15 Posted October 15 55 minutes ago, Danderman123 said: Please think about what you just posted. The BBC thinks there is a link between genetics and violent crime. https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-29760212 1
BangkokReady Posted October 15 Posted October 15 10 hours ago, placeholder said: Thanks for continuing to be disingenuous. You misspelt honest... 🙄 1 1
placeholder Posted October 15 Posted October 15 7 hours ago, BangkokReady said: You misspelt honest... 🙄 You've got nothing. 1
Captain Monday Posted October 16 Posted October 16 On 10/14/2024 at 9:58 AM, Yagoda said: LOL Im originally from Trump country, NYC. How about you Mr. Deflection? Nice. I now add "dupes" and 'poorly educated" to my list of Democrat Hate Spew. My reasoning may be transparent as Der Sturmer, but you and your ilk are the folks who could write it today. Remember Trump said "we love poorly educated" That was taken out of context, as he thanked just about every other group in this GOP primary for his victory (old , young , Hispanic, highly educated) The thing about the American male blue collar voter is they do not know their own history, are less well informed, and thus are more easily "duped". That does not make them necessarily stupid, or useful idiots (stooges) Just that they were tricked once again to ignore 9 years of hard evidence facts and votes against their own best interests. 1
Yagoda Posted October 16 Posted October 16 15 hours ago, Danderman123 said: By contrast, Trump has praised predominantly white audiences in Minnesota as blessed with “good genes.” They were raised better too. 2
Jingthing Posted October 16 Posted October 16 6 hours ago, Danderman123 said: Trump goes full racist. Campaign of fear mongering straight out of the fascist playbook. 2 1
metisdead Posted October 16 Posted October 16 Posts with derogatory nicknames, intentional misspellings or personal remarks will be removed. Spell names correctly for all sides of the debate.
Photoguy21 Posted October 18 Posted October 18 On 10/14/2024 at 3:02 PM, Danderman123 said: A classic example of "truthiness". Even your fellow Trumpers know you are wrong. But I will humor you and ask you to post a link proving your assertion. Or you can save some embarrassment and delete your post. Give one reason for why you made your original post to which I responded, with verifiable proof of course 1
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