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18 hours ago, BangkokReady said:

 

He's saying murders have bad genes, not immigrants.  Or are you saying that all migrants are murderers?

 

Why constantly lie?  Do you think no one will check?  🙄

Thanks for the willful naivete. In an anti illegal immigration speech he pivots to talking about criminality and bad genes. This is coming from the guy who said this:

DURHAM, New Hampshire, Dec 16 (Reuters) - Donald Trump, the Republican presidential frontrunner, said on Saturday that undocumented immigrants were "poisoning the blood of our country," repeating language that has previously drawn criticism as xenophobic and echoing of Nazi rhetoric...

Trump used the same "poisoning the blood" language during an interview with The National Pulse, a right-leaning website, that was published in late September. It prompted a rebuke from the Anti-Defamation League, whose leader, Jonathan Greenblatt, called the language "racist, xenophobic and despicable."

https://archive.ph/IW6qy

 

Here's a word you might want to contemplate:

con·text

/ˈkäntekst/

noun

1. the circumstances that form the setting for an event, statement, or idea, and in terms of which it can be fully understood and assessed.

https://www.google.com/search?q=context&oq=context&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOTIGCAEQRRg8MgYIAhBFGDwyBggDEEUYPDIGCAQQRRhB0gEIMTU3OGowajeoAgCwAgA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

[Danderman123]

8 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

 

I think what you should be asking is, if you dislike someone, should you lie about them?  Or, if they are as bad as you say, should you simply tell the truth and allow people to make up their own minds? 

 

You might also ask yourself, does it help your cause to constantly lie about the person you dislike, since it lowers your credibility as people simply think, "Oh, there goes a Trump hater lying about Trump again, don't need to listen to their lies".

Trump’s Racist Rants against Immigrants Hide under the Language of Eugenics

 

"Anti-immigrant rhetoric in the U.S. comes straight out of the playbook of eugenics, deeply dishonest scientism that criminality, poverty and a host of other ills were all genetically inherited"

 

You can complain to Scientific American.

[BangkokReady]

2 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Thanks for the willful naivete. In an anti illegal immigration speech he pivots to talking about criminality and bad genes. This is coming from the guy who said this:

DURHAM, New Hampshire, Dec 16 (Reuters) - Donald Trump, the Republican presidential frontrunner, said on Saturday that undocumented immigrants were "poisoning the blood of our country," repeating language that has previously drawn criticism as xenophobic and echoing of Nazi rhetoric...

Trump used the same "poisoning the blood" language during an interview with The National Pulse, a right-leaning website, that was published in late September. It prompted a rebuke from the Anti-Defamation League, whose leader, Jonathan Greenblatt, called the language "racist, xenophobic and despicable."

https://archive.ph/IW6qy

 

Here's a word you might want to contemplate:

con·text

/ˈkäntekst/

noun

1. the circumstances that form the setting for an event, statement, or idea, and in terms of which it can be fully understood and assessed.

https://www.google.com/search?q=context&oq=context&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOTIGCAEQRRg8MgYIAhBFGDwyBggDEEUYPDIGCAQQRRhB0gEIMTU3OGowajeoAgCwAgA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

 

Naïve?  Trump didn't say the thing that the OP claimed he said.  There's nothing naïve about pointing out that someone is lying.  🙄

[BangkokReady]

4 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

Trump’s Racist Rants against Immigrants Hide under the Language of Eugenics

 

"Anti-immigrant rhetoric in the U.S. comes straight out of the playbook of eugenics, deeply dishonest scientism that criminality, poverty and a host of other ills were all genetically inherited"

 

You can complain to Scientific American.

 

Complain?  Why do I need to complain when I can simply quote what you said and then quote what Trump said?  The two things don't match.  He didn't say what you claim he said.  You're lying.

 

It's really very simple.

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1 minute ago, BangkokReady said:

 

Naïve?  Trump didn't say the thing that the OP claimed he said.  There's nothing naïve about pointing out that someone is lying.  🙄

You're the one who parsed Trump's statement to show that there wasn't a logical connection between his 2 claims in order to debunk that fact that Trump was making racist claims.  

[BangkokReady]

3 minutes ago, placeholder said:

You're the one who parsed Trump's statement to show that there wasn't a logical connection between his 2 claims in order to debunk that fact that Trump was making racist claims.  

 

I showed that what the OP claimed was untrue, that's all.  The OP lied.  if you want to lie as well, that's up to you.  🤷‍♂️

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1 minute ago, BangkokReady said:

 

I showed that what the OP claimed was untrue, that's all.  The OP lied.  if you want to lie as well, that's up to you.  🤷‍♂️

Or maybe it's you who aren't facing an obvious truth about context.

"They poison mental institutions and prisons all over the world, not just in South America, not just to three or four countries that we think about, but all over the world. They’re coming into our country from Africa, from Asia, all over the world.”

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/trump-says-immigrants-are-poisoning-blood-country-biden-campaign-liken-rcna130141

 

Clearly, it's willful naivete on your part to ignore the fact that Trump hasn't been singling out Europeans or other nations where the population is mostly of European ancestry. And willful naivete is a form of dishonesty.

[BangkokReady]

6 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Or maybe it's you who aren't facing an obvious truth about context.

"They poison mental institutions and prisons all over the world, not just in South America, not just to three or four countries that we think about, but all over the world. They’re coming into our country from Africa, from Asia, all over the world.”

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/trump-says-immigrants-are-poisoning-blood-country-biden-campaign-liken-rcna130141

 

Clearly, it's willful naivete on your part to ignore the fact that Trump hasn't been singling out Europeans or other nations where the population is mostly of European ancestry. And willful naivete is a form of dishonesty.

 

The OP said he was talking about "immigrants".  If he specifies the criminal and mentally ill, then he isn't talking about all immigrants.

 

You can lie like your friend, of course, I can't stop you, but the words are there for everyone to see.  🤷‍♂️

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17 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

 

The OP said he was talking about "immigrants".  If he specifies the criminal and mentally ill, then he isn't talking about all immigrants.

 

You can lie like your friend, of course, I can't stop you, but the words are there for everyone to see.  🤷‍♂️

Thanks for continuing to be disingenuous. Still trying to treat Trump's statements as separate and unrelated propositions. If you ignore context and his history, you might have a point. But it would still be basically dishonest.

[Danderman123]

41 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

 

Complain?  Why do I need to complain when I can simply quote what you said and then quote what Trump said?  The two things don't match.  He didn't say what you claim he said.  You're lying.

 

It's really very simple.

Please quote Trump again.

 

 

[Danderman123]

44 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

 

Naïve?  Trump didn't say the thing that the OP claimed he said.  There's nothing naïve about pointing out that someone is lying.  🙄

In an interview on “The Hugh Hewitt Show” that aired Monday morning, former President Donald Trump criticized Vice President Kamala Harris for her policies on the southern border and suggested that migrants have “bad genes.”

[BarraMarra]

21 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

Since I back up my assertions with links, no lying here.

 

Unlike Trump who can't stop himself from lying, and you don't mind.

 

They're eating the cats.

They're eating the dogs.

 

 

Iv'e never met this woman.

[BarraMarra]

18 hours ago, BangkokReady said:

 

No.  The point is that the OP is lying.  He made and claim, and that claim is untrue.

Why do you keep asking the same question bangkok he will not reply your flogging a dead horse move on.

[Hanaguma]

3 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

In an interview on “The Hugh Hewitt Show” that aired Monday morning, former President Donald Trump criticized Vice President Kamala Harris for her policies on the southern border and suggested that migrants have “bad genes.”

Even your link says that Trump said "MURDERERS have bad genes".  Nothing about migrants, either legal or illegal. But don't let the truth get in the way of your feelings.