6 hours ago, Cameroni said:

Since all of them are under 25 years old it's unlikely. Unless you met some sperm.. no, no, even then way too long ago... 

Scammed? 555

5 hours ago, MangoKorat said:

Only just come across this amusing thread. Do you seriously think we don't know that?  That you can teach us something? Sorry to spoil your illusion but do you really think that a girl of 24 is interested in a guy 50+?  Were you interested in 50+ women when you were 24?

 

I'm a little older than you and regularly meet 20 somethings when I visit. The difference is that I don't try kidding myself they are not some form of hooker. Some of these girls are not looking for cash on the night, they are looking for longer term support or a sugar daddy.  Hookers don't always work in a bar on stand on the corner. Its online these days.

 

One of my regulars is 22 and still at Uni - a real looker if a little skinny.  She has 2 regular guys on the go that I know of yet she still meets one night stands - if she gets paid, so be it, if not - ditto. I've got to know her quite well and she tells me all about the guys she meets - some very amusing stories.

 

She says she still does the one nighters because she doesn't want to feel like a real girlfriend to her 60 year old hopeful. She has a damned good life - the 60 year old is a wealthy yank who thinks he's her boyfriend. He takes her on trips where they stay in 5* hotels, buys her expensive clothes etc. Every now and again she throws a wobbly and tells me I'm using her (I am). Blocks me for a week or 2 then calls me and apologises.

 

Personally I think she's a bit of a nutter and maybe has something dark in her past but I don't really care - we both get what we want from our 'friendship'.

 

I am not saying that a relationship with a much younger Thai girl is not possible but a Thai girl looking for a genuine relationship would not have jumped straight into bed with you. Neither would a decent Thai girl come to your hotel first on your first date. Thai youth has moved on and 1 night stands are not uncommon these days but not with a 50+ year old man.

 

The girls you met may not have been professionals but their motive was cash, be that long or short term so in effect they were hookers. They may not have left with any cash on this occasion but I guarantee that was their aim. I can also guarantee you that they all have a Thai boyfriend and/or one or more other foreigners.

 

The jealousy when one girl found out you'd been in Bangkok longer than she thought and had probably been seeing other girls? That's normal for these girls - they might have dozens on the go but they like to think they're your only one and they don't like competition.

 

18 years ago I lived with a 21 year old uni student in Bangkok for a while, I think we'd been together a little over a year when one night she blurted out "I want to see other guys, I know you'll think I'm crazy but you can't see other girls OK?" At that time, no, that wasn't OK and I did think she was crazy but I learned a huge lesson.

 

You seem quite proud of yourself - thinking you were scamming these girls along but its you that was being scammed bud but never mind, at least you got your rocks off.

 

Jeez, I bet you believe the bar girls when they shout......hey, come inside, sit down Hansum man.

 

 

Spot on. He doesn’t get it and is either deluded or telling porkies. Very rare for a ‘normal’ Thai gal to want to bed a farang without knowing them even if a looker and esp an older one. It comes with big stigma, such that the ones that aren’t bothered are typically tarts and nutters. It’s especially amusing when these guys think they are virgins and are giving it up just for them. 

19 hours ago, Cameroni said:

 

Indeed you reap what you sow. And since Miki sowed lies, cheating and betrayal, this is what she is reaping now. Though she doesn't know it. 

 

You would have to be a total fool not to build a pipeline of girls in this situation, where the girl is not even comitting to come back at a certain date. She says beginning of February, but I am almost certain she will again find an excuse not to come.

 

So I now arranged another date with a completely new girl on Saturday, the pipeline keeps growing, and I have an architect girl of 30 years of age, who speaks good English and is just a lovely conversationalist.  Not to mention crazy in love Raya. So should Miki refuse to come in February, it would be disappointing, however, there would be the realistic chance to quickly get over it.

 

In case you hadn't realised, it takes two to have a fulfilling realtionship. Yet Miki is not here. She meets me, she invests time and even money in me, but she is not here. So she is not fully committed, clearly.

 

By the way, I don't find it gets old to meet new girls. Each time it is like butterflies and excitement and the electricity is always better in a first meeting than after a year or two. I love it. I love meeting new girls. Even when they turn out to be non-qualifiers, like the coffee girl recently, it's still a fun experience.  

 

As for your ludicrous insult that the girls I date are "tarts", you don't even know them. I do. And I can tell you, none of them is a professional or a "tart". Even Miki had a grand total of 5 guys, including me, she's slept with. Yes, she lied and cheated, but so do billions of people. These are very normal girls. And they are certainly NOT available to all. Women are highly selective, the ones I date anyway. Someoneone on this thread tried to connect with one of my girls, I gave him the details, and he couldn't. Women are very selective.

 

Miki's mum is pissed because I threw her daugther out on the street with 100 Baht, they don't care their daugther cheated. And she's pissed because her daughter had a farang previously who lied and cheated on her. But frankly the mother is a terrible person and I could not care less what she thinks.

Meeting new girls is a delight; going through them for the sake of it and rating them etc is kinda sad. It’ll likely come around and bite you on the A when one of them takes umbrage. I hear the duck treatment can be quite painful.  🙂

This is good entertainment. True or not, doesn't matter. Good writing too.

Keep it coming 🙂

 

9 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

  She doesn't have sex with many men, but she choose you ?

What was so special about you ?

Why did she find you to irresistible ?

Was it you amazing good looks , your wonderful personality .

The aftershave that you wear ?

Or do most woman throw themselves at you ?

 

 

Well, I was blessed with THE FACE. Unfortunately she does not find me irresistible. Sometimes I doubt she's even attracted to me, but she has to be, because she just spent 5 days with me and gave me 1000 Baht. 

 

Frankly, I don't think women find men's looks terrible important. Or sex. We look at this from the male perspective. Because for us looks and sex are so important, we assume it's the same for girls. But it's not. They can have sex any time they want. Sex has no meaning at all for them, once they lost their virginity. And looks are actually secondary to a lot of things, like what lifestyle, status and such can this guy deliver?

 

I guess being all over the internet as a lawyer doesn't hurt me, having a 4 bed house and such. But even with the face, status, and house, it's still a freaking struggle, because women are so hyperselective. For every approach made 99 say no.

 

No woman throws herself at me. Well maybe one or two, but it's really rare. Women are hyper selective. Much more than we are. We will do most any woman, but most women will not do 99 per cent of men. Don't take that personal. I know I don't.

8 hours ago, MangoKorat said:

Sorry to spoil your illusion but do you really think that a girl of 24 is interested in a guy 50+?  Were you interested in 50+ women when you were 24?

 

It is a fundamental error to assume women and men are the same. Yes, many girls of 24 are interested in guys of 50 years of age.

 

The reason is that women have a different perspective to men. For them things like lifestyle, status and "can this man improve my life" are far more important considerations than anything else. And it just so happens that men of 50 have more status and money than younger men.

 

So yes, I don't just "think" 24 year old grils are interested in 50 year old guys, I KNOW it is the case. Not all of course, some girls will only date guys 35, sure it happens. But a great number of girls in their 20s are happy to get a 50 year old guy.

 

8 hours ago, MangoKorat said:

Some of these girls are not looking for cash on the night, they are looking for longer term support or a sugar daddy.  Hookers don't always work in a bar on stand on the corner. Its online these days.

 

ALL MEN PAY. ALL men exchange resources for sexual opportunity. We need to accept this. This is how the game works. Of course I am fullly aware these girls want a rel with a guy to improve their lifestyle. This is perfectly normal. In that sense all women are hookers, sure.

 

8 hours ago, MangoKorat said:

One of my regulars is 22 and still at Uni - a real looker if a little skinny.  She has 2 regular guys on the go that I know of yet she still meets one night stands - if she gets paid, so be it, if not - ditto.

 

Well, typical behaviour of early 20s girls who want to "explore their options" but this one seems borderline prostitute.

 

8 hours ago, MangoKorat said:

the 60 year old is a wealthy yank who thinks he's her boyfriend. He takes her on trips where they stay in 5* hotels, buys her expensive clothes etc.

 

I don't take mine out on expensive resorts, or give them  diamond bracelets, I've learnt my lesson. You should never do that.

 

8 hours ago, MangoKorat said:

I am not saying that a relationship with a much younger Thai girl is not possible but a Thai girl looking for a genuine relationship would not have jumped straight into bed with you. Neither would a decent Thai girl come to your hotel first on your first date. Thai youth has moved on and 1 night stands are not uncommon these days but not with a 50+ year old man.

 

That's not true, alas. Take the 711 girl for istance. She was falling in love over Line, then came with the very clear intention of a genuine relationship. And still jumped into bed right away. And came to the hotel room. So one night stands are just as common with 50 year old guys as they are with younger guys, trust me on this. Yes, some girls only do younger guys, but specifically those looking for a genuine relationship will jump into bed with 50 year old guys. Why? Because they know doing that helps to secure the relationship. It's perfectly logical.

 

8 hours ago, MangoKorat said:

The girls you met may not have been professionals but their motive was cash, be that long or short term so in effect they were hookers. They may not have left with any cash on this occasion but I guarantee that was their aim. I can also guarantee you that they all have a Thai boyfriend and/or one or more other foreigners.

 

In as much as girls want to improve their life, and economic situation, you can call all girls hookers, sure, but that misses the point. There is a cold hard distinction between a skank in Nana and a girl who wants a rel with a higher status man. It's just not the same, though there are fundamental underlying similarities.

 

As for them having a Thai or foreign boyfriend, in the case of one I can be sure this is not the case, in the case of others, time will tell, but I would not rely on your guarantees on that.

8 hours ago, MangoKorat said:

You seem quite proud of yourself - thinking you were scamming these girls along but its you that was being scammed bud but never mind, at least you got your rocks off.

 

Only one scammed me, Miki, who made me believe we had a 1 year solid relationship. Then lied about having to transfer land in the province, when she in fact went to Phuket for 7 days to <deleted> another guy in a 5 star resort. I mean the audacity is stunning, but clearly she must have been unhappy with the relationship. Most likely because I did not give her money or presents and had to work a lot. She got bored. So she sought adventure or a new rel. I wouldn't call it a scam, I dropped the ball. Yes, she's responsible, but I dropped the ball. I left her alone for 3 weeks while I went abroad for work. Lessons learnt, never do that.

8 hours ago, MangoKorat said:

Jeez, I bet you believe the bar girls when they shout......hey, come inside, sit down Hansum man.

 

They don't shout that at me, I don't give off monger vibes. Maybe I'm too good looking.

3 hours ago, Cameroni said:

t is a fundamental error to assume women and men are the same. Yes, many girls of 24 are interested in guys of 50 years of age.

You're deluded - end of chat.

4 minutes ago, MangoKorat said:

You're deluded - end of chat.

 

Not at all. I'm just relaying real world in the field facts. Since I know the truth I don't need to be concerned if someone on the internet says 24 year old girls are not interested in 50 year old guys. 

 

I know for a fact that's wrong, see I have real data.

Just now, Cameroni said:

 

Not at all. I'm just relaying real world in the field facts. Since I know the truth I don't need to concerned if someone on the internet says 24 year old girls are not interested in 50 year old guys. 

 

I know for a fact that's wrong, see I have real data.

I suggest you learn to speak the language and listen to what these girls say about 'old men' - either your entire story is a work of fiction or you have an awful lot to learn.

2 minutes ago, MangoKorat said:

I suggest you learn to speak the language and listen to what these girls say about 'old men' - either your entire story is a work of fiction or you have an awful lot to learn.

 

I suggest you try and understand that "these girls" are unkown to you, that I have, repeatedly, met and you have zero clue what they are saying about any man.

"but most women will not do 99 per cent of men."  That still means there's 500 000 who do 🙂

 

I have been lucky to dip into that pool too. They may have been Cameroni's left overs but that fine. I like left over meals as well.

 

12 minutes ago, GypsyT said:

"but most women will not do 99 per cent of men."  That still means there's 500 000 who do 🙂

 

I have been lucky to dip into that pool too. They may have been Cameroni's left overs but that fine. I like left over meals as well.

 

 

This is the key point of course. Quite right. It's the magic of sales. Yes 99 will say no, but one will say yes.  

 

I am literally amazed at the number of dates and women I can secure a meeting with each week. Simply by putting in the effort, making endless approaches.

 

There's no secret. Anyone can do it. 

 

Well not anyone maybe, some guys on here are 98 years old and look like Methusalem's ugly granddad. They have no chance.

 

But most of you normal guys can do it.

16 hours ago, Cameroni said:

 

Not at all. I'm just relaying real world in the field facts. Since I know the truth I don't need to be concerned if someone on the internet says 24 year old girls are not interested in 50 year old guys. 

 

I know for a fact that's wrong, see I have real data.

I can also vouch that; age is not a deal breaker. One just generally stands more of a chance if one is both a looker and younger. Being polite, well attired and able to make them laugh are as important. 

19 hours ago, Cameroni said:

Well, I was blessed with THE FACE.

Well done. Any sort of meaningful relationship would be tough without one, but I guess it could work. 😋

On 1/31/2025 at 1:00 AM, daveAustin said:

I can also vouch that; age is not a deal breaker. One just generally stands more of a chance if one is both a looker and younger. Being polite, well attired and able to make them laugh are as important. 

 

It may be for some girls. But a very large portion of girls have no issue with a 50 year old guy and do fall crazy in love with 50 year old guys.  You're absolutely right of course that looks and being on the younger side of 50 do help, as this facilitates genuine attraction. Without that there is very little hope of anything. The girl has to be attracted to you. This need not be for looks, this can be "for a good heart", status, sense of humour and a mix of many other things because attraction is highly subjective.

 

I also strongly agree that sense of dress is incredibly important and key component of the attraction puzzle. 

 

I have two dates today, one with a Thai girl and one with a 31 year old Swiss-Japanese tourist who arrived yesterday. I bought new shirts and always make sure to look presentable on dates.

41 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

It may be for some girls. But a very large portion of girls have no issue with a 50 year old guy and do fall crazy in love with 50 year old guys.  You're absolutely right of course that looks and being on the younger side of 50 do help, as this facilitates genuine attraction. Without that there is very little hope of anything. The girl has to be attracted to you. This need not be for looks, this can be "for a good heart", status, sense of humour and a mix of many other things because attraction is highly subjective.

Sooner or later you are going to have to accept you will never be more than a sponsor or a sugar daddy to any of these types of girls. You believe you are dating "good girls", you are not. They would want nothing to do with a sex tourist like you. The first conversation you would be sussed out. 

44 minutes ago, marin said:

Sooner or later you are going to have to accept you will never be more than a sponsor or a sugar daddy to any of these types of girls. You believe you are dating "good girls", you are not. They would want nothing to do with a sex tourist like you. The first conversation you would be sussed out. 

 

Whilst I'm neither a "sugar daddy" nor a "sex tourist" you say it like it's a bad thing. In reality you, Marin, are paying for your girl, and have always done so. All men pay for their women. 

 

And I can assure you these girs want a lot to do with me. I could show you text messages where they beg for my attention and to spend days with me. But of course being a gentleman I won't do so.

On 10/25/2024 at 3:24 PM, Cameroni said:

 

Silom, moderate budget.

 

I don't think movies is a good idea, no body contact, no talking.

 

haha, yea, movie is a very bad idea, thought everyone knew that...

3 minutes ago, it is what it is said:

 

haha, yea, movie is a very bad idea, thought everyone knew that...

Not the same thing if you go to the double bed cinemas...lol😆

 

18 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Whilst I'm neither a "sugar daddy" nor a "sex tourist" you say it like it's a bad thing. In reality you, Marin, are paying for your girl, and have always done so. All men pay for their women. 

 

And I can assure you these girs want a lot to do with me. I could show you text messages where they beg for my attention and to spend days with me. But of course being a gentleman I won't do so.

Just calling a spade a spade Cam. Beg for your attention or the chance to get at your $$. 

28 minutes ago, CharlieH said:

Not the same thing if you go to the double bed cinemas...lol😆

 

 

Wow, where is that?

10 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

Wow, where is that?

Bangkok they have a few of them

 

https://www.prestigeonline.com/th/lifestyle/culture-plus-entertainment/luxury-cinemas-near-me-in-bangkok-first-class-lounge-review-prices-rating/

 

 

So I went to meet Mon, we agreed on 2.30 pm. I hit traffic and parking problems and arrived a full 20 minutes late.

 

When I saw Mon I was taken aback. This was the first time a girl looked way better in real life than on her photos. A 27 year old beautiful woman, lovely hair (obviously was at the salon), flawless face, she was at least a 7.5, if not an outright 8.

 

Clearly, she was not happy I was 20 minutes late. I apologised and she was very cool about it, but I could tell she had been waiting a long time. Not a great start.

 

She said she wanted to go eat something, so we hit a restaurant. The food was good and she was as charming as can be. It went well. But she had told me from the outset she had to meet her friends. Only 90 minutes was allocated to us. A very nice convo. Then we went to pay.

 

The place did not accept credit card, and I had forgotten to transfer money to my Thai bank account and had 245 Baht on there for scan. I asked her if she had 200 Baht. She asked why. I explained. The embarassment.

 

What a fail on my part. First 20 minutes late, then had to borrow 200 baht to pay the lunch. And she was outstanding. Beautiful, charming and a business owner. She'd travelled to Paris, Iceland and Italy. A real quality woman.

 

What a shame. I'll ask for another date in 3 days, but I doubt she'll be up for it.

On 1/30/2025 at 5:12 PM, Cameroni said:

 

This is the key point of course. Quite right. It's the magic of sales. Yes 99 will say no, but one will say yes.  

 

I am literally amazed at the number of dates and women I can secure a meeting with each week. Simply by putting in the effort, making endless approaches.

 

There's no secret. Anyone can do it. 

 

Well not anyone maybe, some guys on here are 98 years old and look like Methusalem's ugly granddad. They have no chance.

 

But most of you normal guys can do it.

So most are turning you down. That makes it more believable then, because you kinda came across that they were falling over you and you were beating them off with a sh.itty stick. 

3 hours ago, daveAustin said:

So most are turning you down. That makes it more believable then, because you kinda came across that they were falling over you and you were beating them off with a sh.itty stick. 

 

Of course most are. Women are highly selective. Then there is timing. With Miki for example I was lucky she'd just broken up. If they're still fighting to keep someone I would not have gotten a chance. 

 

Attraction is highly subjective. Some women won't date English people. An Argentinian girl for example. Or they don't like the haircut or the way you dress.

 

Some girls like surfer dudes. 

 

Given the subjective nature of attraction, the importance of timing (she has to be free) and the fact that women only have one chance to select the best possible mate (they can get pregnant one at a time whereas men can father offpsring in greater numbers simultaneously), there are a lot of factors at play that can work against you getting a chance.

 

This does not mean that I don't get multiple texting me at the same time, or pushing hard to spend time with me, because SOME women do find me attractive and are free and do consider me an acceptable mate. Quite a few.

 

But yes, obviously it's like with sales, you have to make countless approaches to get the number of customers. Most will say no. But given the factors at play it would be silly to take that personal.

16 hours ago, Cameroni said:

So I went to meet Mon, we agreed on 2.30 pm. I hit traffic and parking problems and arrived a full 20 minutes late.

 

When I saw Mon I was taken aback. This was the first time a girl looked way better in real life than on her photos. A 27 year old beautiful woman, lovely hair (obviously was at the salon), flawless face, she was at least a 7.5, if not an outright 8.

 

Clearly, she was not happy I was 20 minutes late. I apologised and she was very cool about it, but I could tell she had been waiting a long time. Not a great start.

 

She said she wanted to go eat something, so we hit a restaurant. The food was good and she was as charming as can be. It went well. But she had told me from the outset she had to meet her friends. Only 90 minutes was allocated to us. A very nice convo. Then we went to pay.

 

The place did not accept credit card, and I had forgotten to transfer money to my Thai bank account and had 245 Baht on there for scan. I asked her if she had 200 Baht. She asked why. I explained. The embarassment.

 

What a fail on my part. First 20 minutes late, then had to borrow 200 baht to pay the lunch. And she was outstanding. Beautiful, charming and a business owner. She'd travelled to Paris, Iceland and Italy. A real quality woman.

 

What a shame. I'll ask for another date in 3 days, but I doubt she'll be up for it.

 

lateness is fine, as long as you communicate, basic error. sounds like a bit of a cheapskate restaurant, another error. you might get another shot, but you'll need to up your game.

Cameroni, can I ask this since you're The Pro;

 

Do you ride bareback or use rubber? If bareback have you had any health issues?

I always do bareback and trust she takes care of birth control. Not the smartest way but I hate rubbers. I never had any issues - yet.

2 hours ago, it is what it is said:

 

lateness is fine, as long as you communicate, basic error. sounds like a bit of a cheapskate restaurant, another error. you might get another shot, but you'll need to up your game.

 

I know, unbelievable diletanttism coming late and not checking you had transferred cash to your Thai bank account.

 

I will try on Monday to see if I can get another shot. This girl was absolutely class. Good English, beautiful, business owner, well travelled, slim, funny. What a time to drop the ball.

1 hour ago, GypsyT said:

Cameroni, can I ask this since you're The Pro;

 

Do you ride bareback or use rubber? If bareback have you had any health issues?

I always do bareback and trust she takes care of birth control. Not the smartest way but I hate rubbers. I never had any issues - yet.

 

Sure, I hate rubbers too and I am amazed at the number of Thai girls who will have sex without a rubber. I have never had a single girl insist on a rubber. Even when she says bring one, in the heat of the moment they do not care. It's amazing.

 

Regarding birth control obviously you have to use the withdrawal method, which I have used countless times and never yet had a pregnancy happen.

 

What is also amazing is that the very vast majority of girls have no health issues whatsoever, no STDs, but then I do avoid professional girls.

 

The only issue I had was from this cheating, lying betrayer Miki, who  gave me my first STD, Herpes 2, which is really nothing, like a silly sore every 8 weeks which you get used to, they disappear after 3 days. No big deal.

Thanks, Pro.

So far I only got yeast infection two times from same gal. Later found out she was married!

One cheap pill took care of that.

Yeast is nothing.... besides, w/o it no beer nor bread.