KO tragedy: British boxing hopeful’s final round in Pattaya hotel

[Bert got kinky]

8 hours ago, Bingo66 said:

Cool story but he's more famous and succesful at age 21 than you'll ever be posting nonsense on thaivisa at your age ... Let that sink in.

 

He was a high level pro with over 50 fights and still only 21.

 

He was a high level pro with over 50 fights

Where did you get this nugget of information from?

50 fights by 21 years old is not realistic.

In reality, there is no records of him in https://boxrec.com, showing that he has never fought in a professional boxing bout.

 

He did however partake in a professional kickboxing match in May 2022, which he lost by a unanimous decision.

So, not a boxer, not a hopeful and definitely not a high level pro.

 

 

 

 

 

[Kerryd]

It's pretty messed up.

You'd think (normally) that an athlete who obviously has to train a lot and keep in excellent physical condition wouldn't be messing with drugs at all.

Tonkin was supposed to have a match less than 2 weeks ago (cancelled due to flooding). You'd think it would have been rescheduled to happen in the near future.

I don't know what the drug/steriod policies are for the different Muay Thai fighting organizations in Thailand and Cambodia are but even if they don't care (or test) - cannabis and ketamine wouldn't be something you'd expect a professional fighter to be using.

Got to love the "experts" who think there's no way that the ketamine found in the room could have anything to do with one of the guys being dead and the other in a coma.

Sure, maybe it was just the marijuana, right ?
There's a reason ketamine is a Class 1 drug and it's not because it gives a "calming effect".
Sounds like something a ****ing drug dealer (or junky) would say to try and justify their own actions.

One would hope that the media follows up on this story - but "This is Thailand" and following up on stories seems to be taboo here for some reason unless the subjects do something else "newsworthy".

Like the Canadian found dead in his apartment a week or so ago. Chances we'll ever hear what the cause of death was (after the autopsy) ? 
Between zero and not a chance in h3ll. Because no one will follow up or report on it unless it's something really strange or exotic.

If Tonkin recovers, we may get an update - or a report of him being charged for the drugs.

Otherwise we may never know what really happened.

[Andycoops]

RiP to the young man and condolences to his family.

 

Calling the Vogue hotel swanky is journalistic licence at its extreme.

[soalbundy]

8 hours ago, Bingo66 said:

Cool story but he's more famous and succesful at age 21 than you'll ever be posting nonsense on thaivisa at your age ... Let that sink in.

 

He was a high level pro with over 50 fights and still only 21.

What's he doing now?

[watchcat]

18 hours ago, Upnotover said:

No.  Because it isn't.  It's a 1000 a night hotel.

 

Better than a 300 baht room?

[watchcat]

19 hours ago, webfact said:

A young British boxing hopeful was found lifeless at the swanky Vogue Hotel in Pattaya, Thailand.

 

Young and restless.

[Kerryd]

2 minutes ago, Bert got kinky said:

 

He was a high level pro with over 50 fights

Where did you get this nugget of information from?

50 fights by 21 years old is not realistic.

In reality, there is no records of him in https://boxrec.com, showing that he has never fought in a professional boxing bout.

 

Maybe he mixed up Gladstone and Tonkin ?

However, I tried searching that site for Jayson Tonkin (full name and just last name searches) and it has no records and he has fought in a number of tournaments - but mainly in Thailand and Cambodia.

Boxrec collects data from various sports organizations so if an organization isn't a "member" or doesn't submit fight results, they wouldn't appear on that site.

Just looked again and I see a post dating back to 2016 about him (as Jayy Tonkin) fighting for AKA Thailand and I found a .pdf about AKA Thailand showing a profile of him with a 17-7-1 record.

(Note no "neck tatt" so the profile pic must be a few years old.)


His last Instagram post was a clip from a fight 2 months ago where he scored a 1st round TKO.

Fairtex had a post about Tonkin's match on 20 Oct being cancelled due to rain.

[mikebell]

19 hours ago, webfact said:

Thai police allegedly initially bungled the announcement, misidentifying Tonkin as the deceased.

Easily done!

[KhunBENQ]

19 hours ago, Upnotover said:

No.  Because it isn't.  It's a 1000 a night hotel.

"swanky" "lavish" "resort" 

It's hard to digest this nonsense.

During high times it was a 90% Chinese tour group hotel.

Stinky buses with running motor on the parking space. Endless whistle blowing braindead guards.

Once was unlucky to have a balcony facing this place.

[Foxx]

Ketamine is widely used by gay men to enhance the sexual experience.  It also relaxes the anal sphincter.

[renaissanc]

Expats should know better than to take drugs, especially in Thailand. If the drugs don't kill you or damage your brain, the Law will get you.

[WDSmart]

2 minutes ago, Foxx said:

Ketamine is widely used by gay men to enhance the sexual experience.  It also relaxes the anal sphincter.

Sounds like it would be useful if you're suffering from an annoying bout of constipation.

[renaissanc]

3 minutes ago, Foxx said:

Ketamine is widely used by gay men to enhance the sexual experience.  It also relaxes the anal sphincter.

Yuuuuuuugggghhhhhhh!

[steven100]

they should have stuck to the beer ....      

 

I hope they both make a full recovery and learn from their drug taking experience ... ' but sadly they won't '

[NanLaew]

1 hour ago, KhunBENQ said:

"swanky" "lavish" "resort" 

It's hard to digest this nonsense.

During high times it was a 90% Chinese tour group hotel.

Stinky buses with running motor on the parking space. Endless whistle blowing braindead guards.

Once was unlucky to have a balcony facing this place.

 

...and in the room I got, the air conditioning was buggered due to Chinese tourists hanging their washing on it to dry.

 

Yeah... real swanky.

[PJ71]

Weed doesn't kill people.

[Ebumbu]

22 hours ago, webfact said:

Reports suggest the pair consumed a deadly mix of marijuana and illegal ketamine.

 

This is like saying the pair consumed a deadly mix of chamomile tea and ketamine. 

[tmd5855]

13 hours ago, Bobthegimp said:

He spared his family the misery of being manipulated and bled dry by a junkie.  It's better this way than had he become a toothless layabout, begging and stealing to get his next fix. Imagine Hunter Biden, but without money for hookers and blow. 

When you have a son as a junkie, all family bedrooms have padlocks fitted, car keys locked away and visitors told to keep handbags and valuables on their person at all times, local burglaries laid at your door.  Visits by 6 cops, search warrants and sniffer dogs descending on your home and if drugs found repairs to doors/windows at your own expense.  

 

Jail!!!!!  Do not make me laugh drugs were freely available in jail, wardens/guards are the unseen pushers to keep the so called "Krazies" calm.

 

When the nightmare does end it is usually death.

 

29th, December 2016 aged 27 my son took his life, a nightmare ended, yet to many that never directly suffered at the centre of pain, memories become kinder??  Me, mine have never changed, drugs destroy families, destroy family relationships, drugs are not innocent fun and a cheap way to happiness they are a path to conflict, loneliness and death.

  

Do not ask for my solution to drug taking and the problems, you will not like my solution nor its timescale.

 

As those two young men have found out, one with his life the haphazard way taking of drugs and thinking they are in control being smart!!!!!  usually ends in death.

[shackleton]

Don't do drugs 😱

[Jonathan Swift]

22 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

Please think before offering negative condemnation. Consider the facts as reported. Consider the drugs implicated; marijuana and ketamine. Yes, we all know ketamine  is deadly. However, there is no mention of the toxicology tests to determine  drug levels in the injured/deceased. How about waiting until all the facts are established.  Look at the room. Does that really look like the  "suite of a lavish resort". How was evidence secured when a photo of somchai is on display? And so on. 

Well said sir. This is a tragedy and should be regarded as such. For all of your stated  reasons, you can't trust the accuracy of stories like this. After all, they misidentified the deceased right out of the starting gate. There is a race to get a story out that inherently compromises factual accuracy. As to this publication, the writing is often cartoonish and amateurish, written at a high school level. So  expectations should not be high. Cheers.

[Jonathan Swift]

22 hours ago, In Full Agreement said:

 

 

I know a few people who'd consider a   1,000 Baht a night tariff at the upper end of their budget.

 

 

That would be me. I usually top out at around 700 baht for perfectly comfortable guest houses. All the more money left for better things. 

[sabai-dee-man]

12 hours ago, Bingo66 said:

Cool story but he's more famous and succesful at age 21 than you'll ever be posting nonsense on thaivisa at your age ... Let that sink in.

 

He was a high level pro with over 50 fights and still only 21.

 

Wow! Really someone to look up to... not!

[Jonathan Swift]

21 hours ago, Taboo2 said:

5555555

 

No sympathy....FAFO.

 

Everyone has been warned to avoid drugs in Thailand.  Also, folks, you need to understand that all drugs that are snorted is spiked with Fentanyl at this time.  So, avoid putting stuff up your nose.  

 

Or, wake up on the otherside.

 

Darwin takes no prisoners!

Darwin doesn't cover young people simply making foolish mistakes. Drugs are a plague, and the temptation can be very strong to vulnerable people. There's the near universal "party" mindset that exists in every country and not just Thailand, and that includes the fentanyl plague. People die of it every day in the US. Preaching judgmentally comes from people who don't understand the nature of the problem. It's not a stupidity problem, it's a human problem. How many people do you think would stop using if you stood on a street corner telling people to "avoid putting stuff up your nose"? So who are you talking to here? What "folks"? My brother died of an OD at age 42 and I can tell you most certainly that he wasn't a stupid person. He had emotional problems that he couldn't deal with. 

[Gottfrid]

12 hours ago, Sigmund said:

How many tragedies will it take for people to understand that drug use can be lethal and at "best",  end up in completely wrecking the user's judgment, behaviour and brain ?

Let´s say like this. People are still starting wars, even as they have seen the results of them for thousands of years.

[wadsy]

"They encountered the dead man’s friend standing outside the room, shaking. He asked the workers to check on his friend, who had suddenly stopped breathing." So his friend outside the room didn't render assistance? Seeing he had the acumen to realise his friend wasn't breathing surely he could have, unless it was the hotel staff that noticed? Seems a bit strange though.

Edited 1 hour ago by wadsy

[dinsdale]

Ketamine and quite possibly steroids. Not a good mix I would think. Dope would have no medically fatal consequence.

[Alex80]

23 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

Does that really look like the  "suite of a lavish resort". 

I stayed at the Vogue's a couple times in the past. A nice please, but not lavish at all. It's the next level above a guesthouse in soi buakhao (speaking of which, some have decent rooms)