Backlash as Popular Sandwich Chain Cancels Franchise Locations

[In Full Agreement]

3 hours ago, cdemundo said:

How proud you must be.

 

 

Yep..

 

He has the award pinned up on the wall in his basement bedroom.

[Nick Carter icp]

3 hours ago, Yagoda said:

 

Not the horrid Thai Bacon.

 

   You shouldn't be having any bacon at all 

[Olmate]

1 hour ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Not desperate enough to travel all the way to Pattaya  just to get a sandwich .

Delivery daily, fresh to the door., Promo offer this week2 free tee shirts with 10 pies!! 

[Olmate]

5 hours ago, steven100 said:

 

yes,  someone on here is similar ...

Thais couldn't run a chook raffle       no wonder they fail at most businesses. 

Example please.( husky loud voice)..... STEPHAN!! 

[MalcolmB]

52 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

When you set up a franchise, and have done well with them before, you don't change protocol. What works in many places will work in others. What doesn't work is Thai people adopting other customs as quick as they would think. Thais are accustomed to Thai food, and although they do like McDonalds and KFC, sub sandwiches have not taken as good a hold. Thais have always eaten fried chicken, so KFC was a no brainer. McDonalds has many options, including chicken nuggets, and hamburgers are not the same as a sub sandwich.

 

It has nothing to do with training or managing workers. You train people the way it's worked from history. It has everything to do with promotion and advertising, and hoping it catches on enough to make a profit. Subway works here in certain areas because they are usually located near foreigners. Put them in Isaan and they'll fail. Thais like farang food but still prefer their own kind, especially spicy.

 

They would probably like Mexican food as it's often hot and has simple ingredients they use already. If someone made good chorizo and they used ground beef, along with real Mexican seasoning, Thais would eat it. Not talking about Mexican seafood and fajitas but traditional tacos, using beef, pork, chorizo, sausage and fish.

 

There haven't been countless US franchises that have come here and failed. Thais are generally a poor people, so many cannot afford western food. And farangs aren't in numbers high enough to keep western franchises in business unless you also sell to locals in a higher percentage. Americans are good at selling because they know what Americans like. Easy and quick. Taking out fast food, the US has world class restaurants by the thousands, and their food is as good or better than where they originate. You might want to spend time in the US before you judge them as stupid and so far up themselves, as they are ahead of almost everyone as far as restaurants and food are concerned. Chains try to establish most everywhere because they think a profit might be made. Businesses fail all over because this doesn't happen. Countries where many are poor, as here, are a lot more likely to have chains fail than those with higher pay scales. Greed has companies trying to make do anywhere they think might work.

I lot of assumptions there Fred. 
 

Of course you are totally wrong as usual. It is precisely that attitude that brings on so many failures.

 

7-11 would be the most successful American franchise in Thailand. Thankfully it is run by Thais who are smart enough to adapt. It would have been a disaster if run by Americans. 

 

that you think Thais like McDonald’s is funny. It is kids food. Worst hamburgers I have ever eaten in Thailand.

https://pantip.com/topic/39609912

[fredwiggy]

Just now, MalcolmB said:

I lot of assumptions there Fred. 
 

Of course you are totally wrong as usual. It is precisely that attitude that brings on so many failures.

 

7-11 would be the most successful American franchise in Thailand. Thankfully it is run by Thais who are smart enough to adapt. It would have been a disaster if run by Americans. 

 

that you think Thais like McDonald’s is funny. It is kids food. Worst hamburgers I have ever eaten in Thailand.

https://pantip.com/topic/39609912

Actually, I don't assume, and have first hand knowledge of a number of business both failed and with success, and the reasons why. Totally wrong as usual? You've never proven me wrong once, but I have you every time, so your a tad off there. Smart enough to adapt? To what? Training in a franchise is the same everywhere. What works is used. 7-11 works in the US, as can be seen here...............In 2023, there were a total of 12,592 7-Eleven convenience stores in operation throughout the United States. The company had U.S. retail sales of 27.88 billion U.S. dollars that year. Not quite a disaster. You know, a note to you and others who only go by others opinions and videos about the US. It doesn't show but a fraction of what goes on there, so it's best again, not to "assume". I didn't say McDonalds hamburgers were good. I don't eat fast food of that sort. I prefer making my own or going to a hamburger restaurant that has good ingredients and knows how to put them together.

[MalcolmB]

5 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

You've never proven me wrong once,

Just a reminder, look at the topic of this thread. 
 

Thai 7-11 sells different stuff to the USA 7-11

[Sydebolle]

Don't get me wrong but the sandwiches were absolute carp and the price/value ratio was beyond any limits. Apart from the franchise issuer the landlords in the shopping centres and department stores had their cut. Well, someone has to bite the dust. Stay tuned for Starwucks - to be next 8-) 

[fredwiggy]

Just now, MalcolmB said:

Just a reminder, look at the topic of this thread. 
 

Thai 7-11 sells different stuff to the USA 7-11

Do you think in over 6 years I haven't been in a Thai 7-11? I know what they sell, and a lot of it is the same types of things they do in the US. It's a store to go to when you don't have time to go to the regular supermarkets, and those here don't sell gas, so it's "convenient". Also they stay open later and open earlier. so they always have customers. You can't compare a 7-11 to a fast food place although they both have easy to eat food. They're a convenience store/gas station.

[fredwiggy]

Just now, Sydebolle said:

Don't get me wrong but the sandwiches were absolute carp and the price/value ratio was beyond any limits. Apart from the franchise issuer the landlords in the shopping centres and department stores had their cut. Well, someone has to bite the dust. Stay tuned for Starwucks - to be next 8-) 

I like Starbucks and buy their coffee and tea, but rarely here, as the closest one is 1 1/2 hours away. I'm thinking the same as when I go, I don't see too many patrons inside. Amazon and a thousands other coffee places are cheaper, so that's where most locals go.

[impulse]

2 hours ago, lordgrinz said:

 

Is there anywhere here we can buy just the cold cuts? My daughter got addicted to eating slices of honey cured smoked ham in the USA on our last visit, not sure where to find good deli-meats here though.

 

I used to buy sliced to order cold cuts at the Foodland on Suk Soi 16 in Bangkok.  They have a pretty nice deli section.  Good selection of hot dogs, too.  Some of the hot dog flavors are good.  Others, I didn't care for.  Plus, they had hot dog buns and sweet relish.  That was all pre-Covid, but I can't imagine they did away with their deli section.

 

[Yagoda]

1 hour ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   You shouldn't be having any bacon at all 

Why? In moderate quantities its quite satisfying 

[Nick Carter icp]

2 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Why? In moderate quantities its quite satisfying 

 

   If you eat Pork then God will punish you by shrinking your knob .

[Aussie999]

5 hours ago, lordgrinz said:

 

Yup, the ingredients at Subway leave a lot to be desired, or to be thrown in the trash.

I've never experienced any problems 

[Yagoda]

7 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   If you eat Pork then God will punish you by shrinking your knob .

God shrunk me in the womb, give me some parma ham

[WHansen]

6 hours ago, bannork said:

May all the junk food locations worldwide fail.

Processed food. One of the scourges of ' modern' man.

 

A bit of an uneducated comment as any food or drink which is changed from it's original form is processed. I have orange juice and toast in front of me, both processed.

[NanLaew]

7 hours ago, MalcolmB said:

The Americans are good at selling their junk to the world with clever marketing. 
But unlike the Japanese they are so far up themselves that they are too stupid to realize things are different in Thailand and you have to train and manage workers differently. 
 

Chevrolet, Baskin Robbins, Carl Jnr, and countless others have came and failed. 
TIT.

 

Yeah, but I still miss my Chevy burger.

[Caldera]

They've been shoddier than ever anyway. A nearby branch in a mall went cashless AND removed their seating area. I could just as well go to the supermarket in the same building and buy some fresh quality ingredients to make myself a sandwich at home, as that's where I'd have to eat it anyway. Then there's the "bread", or what they sell under that name. 

[skorts]

9 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

A long time ago I read this great book:

Fast Food Nation: What The All-American Meal is Doing to the World Kindle Edition by Eric Schlosser (Author) 

 

It exposes the whole industry. And as far as I remember, the above sandwich chain was one of the worst.

 

Enjoy!

 

 

That book was a great read. Sadly, the author Eric Schlosser passed away earlier this year at the age of 53 with complications from cancer. No idea if his “Super Size Me” film where he ate a McDonald’s only diet for 30 days contributed to his cancer but he gained 25 pounds and suffered from a spike in his cholesterol after 30 days of eating McDonald’s food only. RIP. 

[OneMoreFarang]

59 minutes ago, skorts said:

That book was a great read. Sadly, the author Eric Schlosser passed away earlier this year at the age of 53 with complications from cancer. No idea if his “Super Size Me” film where he ate a McDonald’s only diet for 30 days contributed to his cancer but he gained 25 pounds and suffered from a spike in his cholesterol after 30 days of eating McDonald’s food only. RIP. 

 

Thanks for the information. But I have to ask: Are you sure? I just checked his Wikipedia page and googled obituary Eric Schlosser and I didn't find any confirmation.

I read a couple of his books, all very interesting.

[Bday Prang]

7 hours ago, Ralf001 said:

 

Would need some mustard and BBQ sauce too !

BBQ sauce should not be allowed anywhere near Bacon it should be a criminal offence to even think about such blasphemy.

Only HP sauce is acceptable   

[Bday Prang]

3 hours ago, MalcolmB said:

that you think Thais like McDonald’s is funny. It is kids food. Worst hamburgers I have ever eaten in Thailand.

Agreed, And  It always amazes me how they will walk past some delicious Thai style barbequed chicken and go and stuff themselves with KFC rubbish    guess its the power of advertising

[Bday Prang]

2 hours ago, Yagoda said:

Why? In moderate quantities its quite satisfying 

And the more you eat the better you feel. Bacon is truly a gift from the gods

[jayboy]

10 hours ago, webfact said:

Subway Thailand clarified that the complaints originated from customers who visited locations that had their franchise rights revoked as of 26 July 2024. They advised customers to check for the store number and franchise logo before ordering to ensure they are receiving food made with approved ingredients and standards.

 

 

 

Are they having a laugh? This is epic trolling.

 

I have never been in a Subway or tasted one of their products in my life.I'm not sure exactly why but I instinctively understood it would be a disgusting experience.

[fredwiggy]

Just now, jayboy said:

 

 

Are they having a laugh? This is epic trolling.

 

I have never been in a Subway or tasted one of their products in my life.I'm not sure exactly why but I instinctively understood it would be a disgusting experience.

You have to try something before you can know. Subway sandwiches are not near the best but they're still good, and they have a variety. I've had them here a couple of times and the bread wasn't as good as back in the US, but the other ingredients were about the same. The reason they'll fail here is Thais aren't as accustomed to western food as westerners are, and are so used to spicy that many things seem bland to them, although their taste buds are the ones that take a beating from so much chili that they lose the subtlety of foods without heat. This and the fact they aren't as well off as westerners and to keep a business in business, you need to have a profit. Doesn't matter how good a product is. If it doesn't sell enough it will be discontinued.

[Bday Prang]

9 hours ago, JoePai said:

This is a the only sandwich 

 call me a traditionalist, but  approved optional  are pretty much limited to  fried egg,  sausage, or  black pudding,  And HP sauce of course

[alien365]

Stopped going after they refused to accept cash. They can reap what they sow.

[Bday Prang]

8 minutes ago, jayboy said:

 

 

Are they having a laugh? This is epic trolling.

 

I have never been in a Subway or tasted one of their products in my life.I'm not sure exactly why but I instinctively understood it would be a disgusting experience.

The smell puts me off

[Bday Prang]

3 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

I like Starbucks and buy their coffee and tea, but rarely here, as the closest one is 1 1/2 hours away. I'm thinking the same as when I go, I don't see too many patrons inside. Amazon and a thousands other coffee places are cheaper, so that's where most locals go.

I quite like starbucks coffee and occaisionally buy it from the supermarket when back in the UK its no more expensive than any other coffee. But I flatly refuse to spend any money in their disgustingly over priced coffee shops.    Amazon coffee is perfectly drinkable at a fraction of the cost,

[OneMoreFarang]

12 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

Agreed, And  It always amazes me how they will walk past some delicious Thai style barbequed chicken and go and stuff themselves with KFC rubbish    guess its the power of advertising

I guess it's just something different.

Every couple of months I like to eat KFC, and every couple of months I like a Big Mac. It just happens. And I think if we don't eat it all the time then it's not a big deal.