How to stop the Boats.

[GammaGlobulin]

6 minutes ago, chickenslegs said:

I'll start by saying that I am very proud that my country (UK) provides sanctuary for genuine asylum seekers, and gives aid to people/countries in distress.

At heart I am a Liberal/Socialist, but I have to credit the Tory party for a perfectly reasonable and workable solution, which was to send asylum seekers immediately to a safe country (Rwanda) while their applications were assessed. Safety and a reasonable standard of accommodation guaranteed.

Pass the asylum test, get accommodated in the UK, fail the test, go back to their own country.

This,as far as I can tell, is similar to the Australian system.

The arrangement would benefit Rwanda (income, employment), and discourage false claims of asylum, whilst not compromising the safety of genuine applicants.

I can not understand why anyone could object to this arrangement, however the new Labour government cancelled it as one of their first measures.

 

I object to this arrangement you outline.

Just because, due to the massive number of asylum seekers, NOBODY will EVER be satisfied.

So, just helping 0.1% of the asylum seekers is meaningless.

 

Therefore just FORGET ABOUT this approach and ....

Do what is best for the UK, not to mention the USA.

 

However, send them all to France, if you must send them anywhere but back to their homecountries.

 

 

[BruceWayne]

14 minutes ago, chickenslegs said:

...I am very proud that my country (UK) provides sanctuary for genuine asylum seekers, and gives aid to people/countries in distress.

 

As long as you don't have to pay and can virue signal while sweating it up in your new 'home' country 👍

 

14 minutes ago, chickenslegs said:

At heart I am a Liberal/Socialist,

 

<deleted> but rhymes with anchor

 

 

14 minutes ago, chickenslegs said:

but I have to credit the Tory party for a perfectly reasonable and workable solution, which was to send asylum seekers immediately to a safe country (Rwanda) while their applications were assessed. Safety and a reasonable standard of accommodation guaranteed.

Pass the asylum test, get accommodated in the UK, fail the test, go back to their own country.

This,as far as I can tell, is similar to the Australian system.

The arrangement would benefit Rwanda (income, employment), and discourage false claims of asylum, whilst not compromising the safety of genuine applicants.

I can not understand why anyone could object to this arrangement, however the new Labour government cancelled it as one of their first measures.

 

VERY GAY.

 

Just shoot a few of them - use drones - they'll soon get the idea.

 

Why should the UK be the soft touch and pay for all the fannying about that you suggest?

 

When the pound falls again you'll no doubt be moaning along with the rest of the grandads on here -

"mUH pOUnD iS wEAk!"

It's cos the UK has big problems

- one of those problems is borrowing to spend millions  per day on dip<deleted> orcs from abroad looking for handouts.

 

Why babysit these freeloading, <deleted> taking gimmigrants when a few bullets and/or bombs would send a clear message and put an end to it?

 

When these types rape young English girls or rob pensioners are you are you as bleeding heart libtard about them then?

Cos of fannys like those on here the freeloading scumbags believe brits are mugs and, in many of your cases they're absolutely correct.

 

x

Edited November 5 by BruceWayne

[quake]

The should be an age restriction to post on this forum. 

 BruceWayne

[Nick Carter icp]

32 minutes ago, quake said:

The should be an age restriction to post on this forum. 

 BruceWayne

 

  Should also have an I.Q higher than the Pound / Baht rate 

Edited November 5 by Nick Carter icp

[BruceWayne]

21 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

  Should also have an I.Q higher than the Pound / Baht rate 

 

 

 

Should also NOT allow members to base their name & avatars on GAY CLOWN BANDS:

 

 

 

 

 

PS. When are you gonna tell us WHY you love this lot so much nicky????

 

 

 

 

 

Edited November 5 by BruceWayne

[Nick Carter icp]

Well at least an I.Q higher than the U.S $/  Baht exchange rate 

[BruceWayne]

1 hour ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Well at least an I.Q higher than the U.S $/  Baht exchange rate 

 

1 hour ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Well at least an I.Q higher than the U.S $/  Baht exchange rate 

 

Or at least NOT allow members who base their name & avatars on GAY CLOWN BANDS:

 

 

 

 

 

 

PS. When are you gonna tell us WHY you love this gay clown singer so much nicky????

 

 

 

[rickudon]

Well, we cannot shoot them .... but treat them like a resource, to be mined and monetised....

 

1. make illegal entry a crime, fine 2,000 GBP.

2. detain illegals until asylum status is decided. Charge them for their keep.

3. provide work. labour battalions, let them pay their way.

4. no benefits for 10 years, for ALL migrants.

5. They have to pay for right to remain status, like legal migrants, but must pay off debts first.

6. can ask for a ticket back to home country at any time.

7. If illegals refuse to work, they will never be released from detention, and they will only get the minimum for survival.

8. Illegals will only be allowed to live in defined areas  until they pay off all their debts.  

 

I agree that the UK is full. We need to dissuade migrants, unless they are people with skills we actually need. If we allow migration to continue at the current rate, UK will see quality of life decline and environment degraded.

 

[quake]

26 minutes ago, rickudon said:

Well, we cannot shoot them .... but treat them like a resource, to be mined and monetised....

 

3. provide work. labour battalions, let them pay their way.

 

 

I like the idea of number 3.

Get them on pot hole filling, duty, straight away. win win. 

 

[zyphodb]

On 11/4/2024 at 3:06 PM, BarraMarra said:

October saw the largest number of Migrant crossings over 5,000 in 1 Month into the UK. Its being reported this Morning that Two new hotels have opened to house Migrants one in Manchester and one in Berkshire, the Barge that cost Millions to convert the Bibby Stockholm has been Emptied of 500 migrants and placed into Temporary Accommodation i,e, hotels. The official figures putting out this morning is 31,000. The only reason the numbers will slow down now is the weather. So how do we slow or stop them crossing. 

 

Mines? River barrages???

[AgMech Cowboy]

On 11/4/2024 at 3:42 PM, CharlieH said:

Simple,it would never be approved and too many bleeding hearts would outcry,, but I would simply instruct the Royal Navy to sink them ! Life jackets cheaper than hotels etc. Give them all life-jackets and sink the boat.

 

Bet they'd stop as soon as it was known what will happen., and it's been demonstrated. 

The UN, Soros and the new world order is behind all the migration.  The UN pays people to migrate.  The leftist elitist people in governments think diversity is the way to go, so they sponsor people to immigrate and then wonder why they don't assimilate to become good British, European or US/Canadian citizens.

 

We need to stop the UN from continuing this immigration idea and the "new world order".

[josephbloggs]

1 hour ago, AgMech Cowboy said:

The UN, Soros and the new world order is behind all the migration.  The UN pays people to migrate.  The leftist elitist people in governments think diversity is the way to go, so they sponsor people to immigrate and then wonder why they don't assimilate to become good British, European or US/Canadian citizens.

 

We need to stop the UN from continuing this immigration idea and the "new world order".

Wow, David Icke is a member of AN - who'd  have thought!!

[Bday Prang]

On 11/4/2024 at 3:42 PM, CharlieH said:

Simple,it would never be approved and too many bleeding hearts would outcry,, but I would simply instruct the Royal Navy to sink them ! Life jackets cheaper than hotels etc. Give them all life-jackets and sink the boat.

 

Bet they'd stop as soon as it was known what will happen., and it's been demonstrated. 

The fact is , that had the border patrol force / royal navy used some strong arm tactics in the first place Ie just simply sunk a few of them, we would not have this problem, Yes ok there may have been a few fatalities initially , (boo hoo) but it would have stopped anymore  from trying to get here in the future, so the overall loss of life would have been considerably less than it is

It would have upset the lefties, both our own and those in the European administration, but personally I could live with that , in fact it would be a bonus

[Rampant Rabbit]

The only real solution has been given, sink the boats ,leave them to drown women ,children ( who in their right minds brings  a  child) and Men which make up 90% anway. Anything else will not deter them in any way.

[Keeps]

Bring back Dad's Army. The Home Guard patrolling the beaches and telling the illegals to 'bugger off back to where you came from' and chucking pebbles from the beach at them.

[Bday Prang]

7 minutes ago, Rampant Rabbit said:

The only real solution has been given, sink the boats ,leave them to drown women ,children ( who in their right minds brings  a  child) and Men which make up 90% anway. Anything else will not deter them in any way.

very very few bring children , its just that on the rare occasions that they do , the media are all over it,  99% are single military aged men, 

[Bday Prang]

1 minute ago, Keeps said:

Bring back Dad's Army. The Home Guard patrolling the beaches and telling the illegals to 'bugger off back to where you came from' and chucking pebbles from the beach at them.

  Fix bayonets, "They don't like it up them"

[Bday Prang]

6 hours ago, rickudon said:

I agree that the UK is full. We need to dissuade migrants, unless they are people with skills we actually need. If we allow migration to continue at the current rate, UK will see quality of life decline and environment degraded.

correction..... " UK will see quality of life decline and environment degraded".  further than it already has

[Keeps]

6 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

 99% are single military aged men, 

Pretending to be 13 or 14 years old despite having a full beard and the voice tone of Arthur Mullard.

[Bday Prang]

1 minute ago, Keeps said:

Pretending to be 13 or 14 years old despite having a full beard and the voice tone of Arthur Mullard.

indeed, i remember that woman that agreed to house a 13 year old,  first thing she had to do was buy him was a razor   The second was to take him to the dentist to have his wisdom teeth sorted, dentist said he was 20years old minimum

[Keeps]

10 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

  Fix bayonets, "They don't like it up them"

'Vot izz your name?'

 

'Don't tell him Pike!'

[georgegeorgia]

11 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

correction..... " UK will see quality of life decline and environment degraded".  further than it already has

Oh there's no need for such negativity,  migrants are needed , the UK must embrace cultural diversity and cultural enrichment something sadly Bday Prang or whatever ridiculous posting name is ,know nothing about sadly !!!

Edited November 6 by georgegeorgia

[Photoguy21]

If the apology for a government in the UK would stop criticizing the opposition as bad as they were and concentrated on effective measures things would not be like they currently are. If people arrive without verifiable documentation automatically turn them away from the country. Those they let in do not put them in hotels, give them a free phone, money and free healthcare. You would soon see the number drop dramatically.

[Bday Prang]

18 minutes ago, georgegeorgia said:

Oh there's no need for such negativity,  migrants are needed , the UK must embrace cultural diversity and cultural enrichment something sadly Bday Prang or whatever ridiculous posting name is ,know nothing about sadly !!!

A sad, trolling comment that you make every time immigration is mentioned,    You should mind your own business

[Phulublub]

23 hours ago, Surasak said:

Surely rules are meant to be broken. I agree with CharlieH. Throw them a few life jackets then sink the boat. If the illegals knew this was a great possibility, they would be less inclined to set out from a safe country. One small problem. It would take guts for a PM to do it, and 2 Tier Keir does not have the guts of a squashed frog. 

Before you start commenting on the newly installed PM, maybe have a go at his six predecessors who also did the square root of diddly squat (except waste millions on a useless "send them to Rwanda" idea and more millions on an equally useless barge....

 

A long, long time ago, I suggested the whole EU (of which we were then a aprt) should patrol the Med, pick up all the baots crossing from  Africa, land the passengers back on the COuntry they had set off from and sink the boats.  The cash line of migrants would have stopped years ago (and we would acually have room and inclination to take those who deserve asylum here, like those from Afganistan who helped us but who we left high and dry when we left).

 

PH 

 

PH

[cr600john]

On 11/4/2024 at 8:47 AM, BarraMarra said:

The French Police who have been paid Millions Charlie to patrol the beaches have been filmed standing on the beach watching them leaving, and in 1 case ran away when Attacked by an angry mob about to board there Inflatable. Instead of pulling out there Stanley Knives and Puncturing them before they get into the water.

French Police ARE armed, if they cannot cut holes in the boats, SHOOT bloody holes in them from a safe distance.

[Presnock]

On 11/4/2024 at 4:32 PM, Keeps said:

If they are truly escaping persecution etc then they should in theory be 'happy' with their first port of call that will accept them and provide relief from their persecution.

 

The vast majority are economic migrants who have heard that the UK is the land of milk and honey. They hear 'free money, free food, free housing - what's not to like?'

 

I'm not saying other European countries have not accepted their fair share. There are massive problems in the likes of France, Germany, Sweden and no doubt many other European countries. 

 

How on earth though can they make it all the way to the UK? It's an island that shouldn't be easily accessible by illegal means. The French border force have a lot to answer for. All the while that the UK is giving them millions of pounds to prevent the influx.

 

There has been plenty of recorded evidence of the French border patrols casually puffing on a gualoises whilst allowing the traffickers to launch their boats.

 

Why don't the UK border force boats escort them back to a beach in France? Instead they escort them to a beach in the UK and every day hundreds, if not thousands arrive to be another burden on the UK taxpayer.

 

If we say there has been 30,000 land so far this year. There is a website (sorry, don't have the link to hand but easy to find) that provides the estimated population of cities and towns in the UK. Look it up, look around the 30k mark and find a City or town near where you live or come from. That will provide you with a far more accurate size of the influx during ONE year. You will be surprised and most probably horrified.

 

 

US has the same problem with Mexico and those countries south of there.  The US also has been paying billions of dollars to those countries from which them immigrants are fleeing - the money supposedly is to increase benefits for those very migrants but, it must not be getting that far down the train.  This is one of the reasons Harris lost the race to the White House, but there were many other reasons too.  Trump has been promising to inform Mexico immediately that this will cease and that illegals will be exported!  cost estimate to export them reported as $315 billion!!!  Have to borrow that too.  

[Surasak]

On 11/4/2024 at 3:56 PM, scottiejohn said:

And totally against SOLAS etc regulations.

 

Rules are made to be broken.

[john donson]

On 11/4/2024 at 3:06 PM, BarraMarra said:

October saw the largest number of Migrant crossings over 5,000 in 1 Month into the UK. Its being reported this Morning that Two new hotels have opened to house Migrants one in Manchester and one in Berkshire, the Barge that cost Millions to convert the Bibby Stockholm has been Emptied of 500 migrants and placed into Temporary Accommodation i,e, hotels. The official figures putting out this morning is 31,000. The only reason the numbers will slow down now is the weather. So how do we slow or stop them crossing. 

 

why do you care? do you live in UK or here ?

 

what could stop the boats = NO MORE BENEFITS or free house for those illegals

 

you might know how much money and trouble to bring your thai play toy to the UK, LEGALLY...

Edited November 7 by john donson

[newbee2022]

On 11/4/2024 at 3:42 PM, CharlieH said:

I would simply instruct the Royal Navy to sink them

Inhuman. I'm not allowed (AN rules) to express what I'm thinking of you. 👎👎👎