British Man Tells Story of Life in Bangkok Prison in New Book

[proton]

one of the the few ex cons in prisoned here worth listening to, at least he escaped from Klong Prem, lucky Dave

 

 

[herfiehandbag]

44 minutes ago, twizzian said:

I’d rather read Winnie the Pooh.

 Just have,

 

[BangkokHank]

I'm thinking about writing a book, "Twenty-Five Years in Thailand Outside of Bangkok Prison". It would be about how I had a good life in Thailand - by having various interesting jobs, saving my money along the way, and recently retiring - oh, and NOT smuggling drugs (or doing anything else illegal.) Sound like a best-seller?

[renaissanc]

Try to be kind to Johnathan Wheeler. Like we all do, he made a mistake. He's served his time. If he writes a book about his experience, that's fine. So many books are in fact about people's life experiences. Also, he needs some income, and if he can sell some books, I wish him success. In short, show some empathy, please.

[proton]

7 minutes ago, renaissanc said:

Try to be kind to Johnathan Wheeler. Like we all do, he made a mistake. He's served his time. If he writes a book about his experience, that's fine. So many books are in fact about people's life experiences. Also, he needs some income, and if he can sell some books, I wish him success. In short, show some empathy, please.

 

Empathy for dealers in death for cash, making the usual excuse's, I think not.

[bigt3116]

10 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

The man was  not really at risk for execution. In 1993,  217 prisoners were under death sentence in Bang Kwang prison, mostly for murder and drug trafficking, but no prisoners had been executed since 1989.

 

Yes, he was foolish and thoughtless, but he was a mule. An expendable mule. The people who gave him the drugs to smuggle and who profited from the trade, continued on their merry way.

 

1989	6
1990	5
1991	1
1992	2
1993	4

 

11 people would disagree with your figures.

 

These are the figures for executions in Thailand for those years.

[bogozy]

9 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

The man was  not really at risk for execution. In 1993,  217 prisoners were under death sentence in Bang Kwang prison, mostly for murder and drug trafficking, but no prisoners had been executed since 1989.

 

Yes, he was foolish and thoughtless, but he was a mule. An expendable mule. The people who gave him the drugs to smuggle and who profited from the trade, continued on their merry way.

A lot of unsuspected stupid person is not understand the know how of professional gangsters. They are hiring time by time, some greedy outsiders, for mule work. Their journey are reported to the border police already, the start the travel. The police can show good efficiency, resulted arrests. The regular, professional mules can travel undisturbed. 

[black tabby12345]

1 hour ago, john donson said:

he should have flown to singapore

 

It must have been literary One Way Trip.

SGP is extremely strict on Drug Traffickers.

Even after they abolished death penalty for narcotic smugglers, the offenders will still face life imprisonment(some chance of parole after doing 20 years though).

penalty for drug trafficking in singapore - Google Search

[Cabradelmar]

Boring 🥱 loser smuggling drugs writes a book and says prison life is hard 😂 

[Patong2021]

1 minute ago, bigt3116 said:

 

1989	6
1990	5
1991	1
1992	2
1993	4

 

These are the figures for executions in Thailand for those years, seems your figures are wrong.

 

 

My source is https://www.refworld.org/reference/annualreport/hrw/1994/en/41309

The report accepted by the UN was published by the well reputed Human Rights Watch. What reason would it have to present false information?

 

What is your source?

 

[black tabby12345]

A martial artist to a drug smuggler, then an author.

Series of Rollercoaster Career Change LOL.

But at the expense of 18 years' freedom...

 

 

 

[Gandtee]

It's been done before. A Prayer Before Dawn. 

 

[black tabby12345]

25 minutes ago, renaissanc said:

Try to be kind to Johnathan Wheeler. Like we all do, he made a mistake. He's served his time. If he writes a book about his experience, that's fine. So many books are in fact about people's life experiences. Also, he needs some income, and if he can sell some books, I wish him success. In short, show some empathy, please.

 

Honest Mistake  is One Thing.

Criminal Plot is Another.

The former can be forgiven with apology.

The latter is not.

Huge difference between them.

Especially in case of Serious Offence of Profit Motive...

 

 

[SportRider]

Does Thailand have any prisons that are *not* notorious? 

[Kenny Boy]

My heart bleeds

[medic5678]

Screw him.  This is a story of laziness and taking the easy way out, which turned out not to be so easy.  His drama means nothing to me.   He wasn't worried about hurting people with drugs.  He got exactly what he deserved.

[spidermike007]

Had he been a wealthy Thai with connections he never would have  served one day in prison. Prison is not some place you want to end up in Thailand, though I think prison is a terrible place to end up nearly anywhere in the world, (except perhaps Norway). You just don't want to end up there here in Thailand.

 

I knew a guy who was locked up for dealing ganja in Koh Samui and I visited him in prison a few times there and he said that there were about 60 guys that slept in one room and if you laid down on the floor on this paper thin mat at night, to go to sleep you would have to cross your arms across your chest in order to not be on top of the guy laying next to you. No fans, of course no AC, and terrible food. If you had money then you could get decent food. Yikes. A true nightmare. 

[steven100]

a drug person ....   he deserves what he encounted.  

[proton]

1 hour ago, Gandtee said:

It's been done before. A Prayer Before Dawn. 

 

 

Probably the worst and most exaggerated account

[ujayujay]

11 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

The man was  not really at risk for execution. In 1993,  217 prisoners were under death sentence in Bang Kwang prison, mostly for murder and drug trafficking, but no prisoners had been executed since 1989.

 

Yes, he was foolish and thoughtless, but he was a mule. An expendable mule. The people who gave him the drugs to smuggle and who profited from the trade, continued on their merry way.

Wrong! Theerasak, a Thai convicted murderer, was the first person to be executed in Thailand since 2009, and the seventh to be executed by lethal injection since Thailand switched from execution by firing squad in 2003. He remains the most recent person to be executed in Thailand.

[sambum]

6 hours ago, watchcat said:

 

Which is?

 

Obvious - stupid question!

[bigt3116]

1 hour ago, black tabby12345 said:

 

It must have been literary One Way Trip.

SGP is extremely strict on Drug Traffickers.

Even after they abolished death penalty for narcotic smugglers, the offenders will still face life imprisonment(some chance of parole after doing 20 years though).

penalty for drug trafficking in singapore - Google Search

 

You really should read what you link to, before you post.

 

The penalty for drug trafficking in Singapore depends on the amount of controlled substance in possession:

• Less than the mandatory death penalty: The penalty can range from caning (up to 24 strokes) to life in prison.
• Mandatory death penalty: The death penalty is the penalty for possessing, manufacturing, importing, exporting, or trafficking controlled substances in amounts that meet the mandatory death penalty. 
   
   
   

Singapore has executed low to mid-level drug traffickers 16 times since March 2022. In July 2023, Saridewi Djamani became Singapore's first woman to be executed since 2004. 

 

 

1. Death Penalty: For certain types and quantities of drugs, the death penalty is mandatory. For example:

   • Heroin: Possession of more than 15 grams (0.53 ounces) can lead to a death sentence.
   • Cocaine: Possession of over 30 grams (1.06 ounces).
   • Methamphetamine (Ice): Possession of more than 250 grams (8.8 ounces).

   The death penalty is generally mandatory if an individual is caught trafficking these quantities, though the court has some discretion in cases where the person has cooperated significantly with authorities.

[Guderian]

17 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

...33 years old and a martial arts enthusiast...

 

That sounds like half the young blokes arriving in Thailand these days. I wonder how many of them want to 'open a restaurant' but lack the cash to do so? Thailand is just a bad story and a wasted life waiting to happen for certain people.

[sambum]

6 minutes ago, ujayujay said:

Wrong! Theerasak, a Thai convicted murderer, was the first person to be executed in Thailand since 2009, and the seventh to be executed by lethal injection since Thailand switched from execution by firing squad in 2003. He remains the most recent person to be executed in Thailand.

 

Yes, but just as a matter of interest, he was executed on 18 June 2018 (aged 26), which you omitted from your post.

[theblether]

I've often thought of writing a book about Thailand. I wonder how you would go about it. 

[Patong2021]

11 minutes ago, ujayujay said:

Wrong! Theerasak, a Thai convicted murderer, was the first person to be executed in Thailand since 2009, and the seventh to be executed by lethal injection since Thailand switched from execution by firing squad in 2003. He remains the most recent person to be executed in Thailand.

 

What was wrong? You have  actually agreed with me. In 1993/1994  when his offence occurred, the death penalty was not being used.  As I wrote, no prisoners convicted of drug trafficking had been executed since 1989.  Yes, someone was executed  for murder in 2018,  25 years after the case in question, but it has absolutely no relevance, nor connection to  the conditions that were in effect in 1993. Unless, you believe the  convicted was a time traveler?

[thesetat2013]

I hope he did not do something stupid like putting in details of how the prison system work or about specific guard activities. He may be looking at more time in prison for slander if he did. Or making the country look bad to the rest of the world haha..

[MalcolmB]

1 hour ago, Kenny Boy said:

My heart bleeds

Not as much as Jonathan’s bum hole was bleeding. 

Prison sex can be brutal.

[Scouse123]

16 hours ago, proton said:

Seems like everyone writes a book when they get out of Thai prison, read a few. Send them to Hell was a good one. Often they are full of exaggerations on how bad it is as well as stories they just make up.  

 

 

Do you mean Welcome to Hell by Colin Martin?

 

I knew him personally from Chonburi Prison before his transfer to Bangkok after contracting TB.

 

Yes, they are full of exaggerations and yes they do make up stories, a classic tale of an absolute pack of lies was "A Prayer before Dawn" by the Scouser, Billy.

 

The guy was only in Bangkok jail for no more than 5 months!!!!!

 

Nobody had the brains to question him on his ACTUAL amount of time spent in Klong Prem to come up with such a story, and people bought into it.

 

I agree with the US system, I believe it is, that you should not be allowed to profit from crime by either books or newspaper articles.

[Scouse123]

14 minutes ago, thesetat2013 said:

I hope he did not do something stupid like putting in details of how the prison system work or about specific guard activities. He may be looking at more time in prison for slander if he did. Or making the country look bad to the rest of the world haha..

 

He won't be ' up for anything '  as he will now be banned from entering the country.