British Man Collides With Pedestrian in Pattaya Big Bike Crash

[lordgrinz]

7 minutes ago, harryviking said:

Why this mad lust for show off by probably unexperienced drivers! Pattaya is NOT a place for dumb and drunk tourist on big bikes. There are plenty of transportation around the city! USE IT!! or walk....😆

 

The pedestrian was the drunk, not the Big Bike rider.

[harryviking]

Just now, lordgrinz said:

 

The pedestrian was the drunk, not the Big Bike rider.

Yeah, I saw that, but most of the time it is the opposite. 

[Kinok Farang]

5 hours ago, watchcat said:

 

Nice protective clothing for bike riding.

Brits don't need protective clothing.That's just for puffs.Brits are rock-ard.

[Andrew Dwyer]

29 minutes ago, Jiggo said:

Plenty of tourists riding big bikes, shirtless, some with the bar fine clinging to the back seat, most I suspect with no license or more important, experience.

Unfortunately there be more accidents with the innocent coming out worse.

 

Especially if the innocent is inebriated and walks out into the street .

[lordgrinz]

22 minutes ago, Kinok Farang said:

Brits don't need protective clothing.That's just for puffs.Brits are rock-ard.

 

.....and if they are pretenders, GoFundMe has their backs.

[Espanol]

20 hours ago, NickyLouie said:

900cc bike ?

 

bet he wasn't speeding 

 

 

 

"Witnesses painted a vivid picture of the incident.

According to bystanders, Surat appeared heavily intoxicated and had staggered onto the road directly in the motorcycle’s path.

The collision, they claimed, was unavoidable.

 

[Umlungu]

17 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

I'm sure the Anti-Brit Bigots will come up with a few ideas to blame the rider just for being British... 

 

That said - he was pretty dumb to be riding around without gloves, jacket, decent footwear etc - but if only riding at the same speeds as all the other scooter riders etc then he's at no different risk of injury himself than anyone else.

That said - anyone riding a scooter will be better of with a jacket.

 

I will not hit a main road on my scooter without gloves, jacket, boots, full face helmet - some may think thats overkill, others think getting on a motorcycle is a death wish...    our risk profiles and tolerances for risk clearly all vary.

 

Pity that moron on the bike didn't sustain some real damage. Bikes and riders like him use 2nd Road as a race track, speeding, swerving from lane to lane, producing a hell of a racket with their bike noise, revving without reason, going through red lights - all the things they can't do at home they live out here. 

[Umlungu]

1 hour ago, Andrew Dwyer said:

Especially if the innocent is inebriated and walks out into the street .

Traffic, including pedestrians crossing roads, is unpredictable in Thailand. Pedestrians are the weakest participants involved, so bicycles, motorbikes, normal cars, SUVs, pickups, lvans, lorries, buses and large truck need to adapt their on-road behaviour accordingly - which the rider in this instance evidently did not do as no time to react. The fact that the pedestrian was intoxicated is of minor importance. What I have been told about Thai law is that, irrespective of circumstances, the stronger party always carries the bulk of responsibility and liability. 

[transam]

20 hours ago, NickyLouie said:

900cc bike ?

 

bet he wasn't speeding 

 

Why do you think that.......?  🤔

[transam]

17 hours ago, Ralf001 said:

Wonder if the brit will start a gofundme to fix the bike ?

I wondered when you would turn up being creepy............

[Ralf001]

32 minutes ago, transam said:

I wondered when you would turn up being creepy............

Welcome to yesterday.

[richard_smith237]

6 hours ago, eastlight said:

18 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

I will not hit a main road on my scooter without gloves, jacket, boots, full face helmet - some may think thats overkill, others think getting on a motorcycle is a death wish...    our risk profiles and tolerances for risk clearly all vary.

 

Scooter?

 

Yup...  I used to ride a real motorcycle, it was a little too big for Bangkok so I now have what  I and many others call a 'scooter' - but I understand that can be misleading... 

... Its a 300cc 'step through' motorcycle....  such 'scooters' are handy in the city with the added bonus of allowing the breeze to flow up the shorts and cool the mangina !

[richard_smith237]

5 hours ago, MalcolmB said:

 

As a fellow Brit it is reassuring to know that if I start a drunken fight, if I run over a local, if I get arrested for anything that you will be there defending me tooth and nail and heaping blame and doubt on the other parties.

 

Our embassy might leave us for dead, but Richard will always be there for the British expats and tourists in Thailand.

 

 

Nope... I'd be as judgemental against you as I am any other idiot who gets themselves into trouble. 

 

... But, I will speak out against any halfwit who chooses to tar all Brits with same negative stereotypes because of the actions of a minoirty.

 

 

.... And this is where your comprehension falters at the most basic levels. My criticism lies with the sweeping generalisations made by pi!!ocks, not in any form of defence or support for reckless behaviour of a minority of idiots who do dumb stuff.

 

For instance, I do not judge all Brits based on your actions or character. Others shouldn't be condemned simply because you’ve admitted to being a drink driving monger.

[richard_smith237]

1 hour ago, Umlungu said:

Pity that moron on the bike didn't sustain some real damage. Bikes and riders like him use 2nd Road as a race track, speeding, swerving from lane to lane, producing a hell of a racket with their bike noise, revving without reason, going through red lights - all the things they can't do at home they live out here. 

 

How was he riding and using the bike as a race track, speeding, swerving from lane to lane producing a hell of a racket, revving without reasons and running red lights ????

 

Have you seen a video or have information on this rider that is not shown anywhere else ????

 

 

OR... are you just making stuff up to fit a bias rhetoric fuelled by 'some' other motorcyclists you've seen riding around ?

[quake]

1 hour ago, Umlungu said:

Pity that moron on the bike didn't sustain some real damage. Bikes and riders like him use 2nd Road as a race track, speeding, swerving from lane to lane, producing a hell of a racket with their bike noise, revving without reason, going through red lights - all the things they can't do at home they live out here. 

 Wel, l I don't wish anyone to get hurt on bikes. 

But you are correct about Jomtien second road, It is an F1 race track, all day and night.

you need to be on double high alert,  if on that road as a rider, car driver or pedestrian. 

 

[MalcolmB]

21 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

Have you seen a video or have information on this rider that is not shown anywhere else ????

Appreciate you sticking up for us all the time mate.

 

But if you have ever been on that road you will understand what everyone is saying.

And why would he hire or buy a big bike if his intention was to ride slowly? 
Why did he refuse to make a statement? 
You know it makes sense.

 

And who were these “eye witnesses”? 
His mates he was racing with I suspect, covering for him.

i would do the same for my mates.

And I know you would do the same for your mates, you were boasting on the other thread how you use your Thai police connections to get your mates let off drink driving charges.

 

 

 

 

 

Edited 1 hour ago by MalcolmB

[richard_smith237]

33 minutes ago, MalcolmB said:

Appreciate you sticking up for us all the time mate.

 

But if you have ever been on that road you will understand what everyone is saying.

And why would he hire or buy a big bike if his intention was to ride slowly? 
Why did he refuse to make a statement? 
You know it makes sense.

 

And who were these “eye witnesses”? 
His mates he was racing with I suspect, covering for him.

i would do the same for my mates.

And I know you would do the same for your mates, you were boasting on the other thread how you use your Thai police connections to get your mates let off drink driving charges.

 

Here's a list of everything you have fabricated in this thread: 

 

- unfounded suspicions of drugs

- unfounded suspicions of alcohol

- unfounded suspicions of speeding

- unfounded suspicions of whether he was licensed

- unfounded comment that the bike was a rental

- flawed statement that people only ride big bikes to speed

- unfounded assumption that he was racing with friends

- *Complete assumption that eye witnesses were his friends covering for him

- 'refused' to make a statement - wrong - he chose not to make a statement at the scene which is sensible - he may well have made a statement once back at the station.

 

 

*Bystanders at the scene - not other motorcyclists. 

 

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There is nothing to suggest anything occurred here other than what is reported.

A guy riding his bike down the street and a drunk guy stepped out into the road. 

 

Had this exact same situation been reversed, you'd be defending a Thai rider and blaming a Brit - your anti-British prejudice never leaves you.

 

 

 

 

Edited 1 hour ago by richard_smith237

[MalcolmB]

59 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

Here's a list of everything you have fabricated in this thread: 

 

- unfounded suspicions of drugs

- unfounded suspicions of alcohol

- unfounded suspicions of speeding

- unfounded suspicions of whether he was licensed

- unfounded comment that the bike was a rental

- flawed statement that people only ride big bikes to speed

- unfounded assumption that he was racing with friends

- *Complete assumption that eye witnesses were his friends covering for him

- 'refused' to make a statement - wrong - he chose not to make a statement at the scene which is sensible - he may well have made a statement once back at the station.

 

 

*Bystanders at the scene - not other motorcyclists. 

 

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There is nothing to suggest anything occurred here other than what is reported.

A guy riding his bike down the street and a drunk guy stepped out into the road. 

 

Had this exact same situation been reversed, you'd be defending a Thai rider and blaming a Brit - your anti-British prejudice never leaves you.

 

 

 

 

Nice comprehensive list Richard.

Good one. 

 

You forgot the unfounded assumption that the rider was wearing sunglasses at night and couldn’t see properly.

 

Anyway, you be careful out there on your little scooter. Thai roads often throw up challenges.