Belgian 80, Attacked and Robbed by Teenage Gang on Christmas Day in Pattaya

[Ctkong]

On 12/25/2024 at 2:30 PM, saakura said:

What a horrible thing to attack an 80 year old man. They were 6 of them and could have easily just taken his money and vanished. What was the need to beat him up so savagely? I hope all of them are caught, shamed in public and then jailed for a very long time. 😠

Police had better come up fast with solving this unfortunate violent robbery where machete or sword are involved . Nip such crime on the bud before other copycat robberies. Going soft on this type of crime will definitely affect the perception of expats as well as tourists on personal safety in pattaya. 

[Ctkong]

4 hours ago, connda said:

He's lucky to be alive.

Yes, I saw in the video that one of the robbers was equipped with a machete or sword and not afraid to use it on the poor man. A hard slash from that at the right place severing a main artery can be fatal.  That robber if caught should be handed a stiff sentence indeed. 

[kevin612]

The neighborhood is so quiet, anything can happen. But what can the cops do, probably just give them a warning since these are kids 

[sambum]

On 12/25/2024 at 6:37 AM, jacko45k said:

Now this is something that requires prompt police action and causes negativity to tourism generally. The violence of it, and the ugliness of attacking an elderly person for a bit of money. 

But, but, but, :-  "Authorities are committed to apprehending the culprits and bringing them to justice in accordance with the law."

 

Maybe that comment has been copied and pasted as I have just done!

[sambum]

1 hour ago, Ctkong said:

Police had better come up fast with solving this unfortunate violent robbery where machete or sword are involved . Nip such crime on the bud before other copycat robberies. Going soft on this type of crime will definitely affect the perception of expats as well as tourists on personal safety in pattaya. 

 

But is it not a "Famiy Friendly Resort"?

[brewsterbudgen]

8 minutes ago, sambum said:

 

But is it not a "Famiy Friendly Resort"?

No more so than other popular resorts with loads of bars!

[jimn]

https://www.facebook.com/share/cqP4zHCwhJDXAmXe/

[BritScot]

On 12/25/2024 at 6:36 AM, billd766 said:

The answer is, no they don't.

 

The majority of Thai mwn don't do that.

 

A very small minority of Thai's do, and that is usually blown way out of proportion by the press and the social media.

Are you crazy! It's always happened. Did you see the size of that so called knife not! It was a sword! Thailand is very dangerous.  An innocent person can easily be set apon by a pack of rabit thai men-boys, and beaten, stabed or shot. Why? Because they are jealous, see a slight, bord, drunk, and or robbery. 

[Burma Bill]

On 12/25/2024 at 6:33 AM, Georgealbert said:

An 80-year-old Belgian man was brutally attacked and robbed by a group of teenage assailants wielding knives on Christmas Day in Pattaya.

 

From TAT to all foreign tourists and residents  - "We wish you a Merry Christmas, we wish you a Merry Christmas ---etc, etc, etc,!

 

 

[Mickboy]

Three motorbikes six thai's tooled up attack and rob 80 year old man and not a lone incident lately, well I hope these brave young thai's get caught and are made an example of before it becomes a game changing scenario for Pattaya and Thailand.

[fleccer]

Attacked by a baby gang ? Very well, so thanks to that wicked law that limits parents and maybe the teachers too, in their educational , practice  episodes like this will be more and more frequent in the future. Congratulation Thailand

[Dexxter]

14 hours ago, SiSePuede419 said:

Out for an intoxicated walk at Midnight?

Am I reading this correctly?

Hmmm.

That doesn't sound wise for an 80 year old.

Truth is if he had taken a taxi or Grab home from his Xmas party we wouldn't be having this discussion now. 😆

 

Do you always blame the victim?

[newnative]

42 minutes ago, Dexxter said:

 

Do you always blame the victim?

     I don't think anyone is blaming the victim.  Rather, they are questioning his choice, at his advanced age, to be out by himself at midnight in an area apparently without many people around.  I would not do that anywhere in the World, and that includes Pattaya and the small city where I lived in the US.   

    Someone will be along, I'm sure, to say that people should be able to walk around alone at midnight and be perfectly safe.  Yes, they should.  In a perfect World.  Which this is not.  And, since it's not, a prudent person acts accordingly.  

[MalcolmB]

5 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

the 80 year old must have done something to warrant such an attack....

Possibly, but I very much doubt it.

Probably wasn't the smartest move carrying around 7,000 baht drunk late at night at that age.

[MalcolmB]

On 12/25/2024 at 6:50 AM, actonion said:

This seems to answer the question put on here earlier this week.."Do Thai's attack foreigners for no reason"?, An 80 year old  Foreign man  against  6 Thai's, I think the answer in this case is , Yes they do

Not at all. It was a robbery, it wasn’t for no reason. 

[georgegeorgia]

It's very sad ,but we must think of the poor Thai youths who don't have the same opportunity as kids in Western countries 

 

Rather than punishment they should receive love and guidance 

[georgegeorgia]

43 minutes ago, newnative said:

     I don't think anyone is blaming the victim.  Rather, they are questioning his choice, at his advanced age, to be out by himself at midnight in an area apparently without many people around.  I would not do that anywhere in the World, and that includes Pattaya and the small city where I lived in the US.   

    Someone will be along, I'm sure, to say that people should be able to walk around alone at midnight and be perfectly safe.  Yes, they should.  In a perfect World.  Which this is not.  And, since it's not, a prudent person acts accordingly.  

Absolutely correct 

He should only be out between 9am & 5pm 

 

 

[georgegeorgia]

11 hours ago, billd766 said:

I haven't been to Pattaya for more than 10 years, and I doubt that I will ever go again.

There's no need for prejudices against a city 

Let's go back 12 years to an Isaan town where a innocent young Aussie guy was murdered by a group of youths who received 3 years sentence 

[billd766]

4 hours ago, BritScot said:

Are you crazy! It's always happened. Did you see the size of that so called knife not! It was a sword! Thailand is very dangerous.  An innocent person can easily be set apon by a pack of rabit thai men-boys, and beaten, stabed or shot. Why? Because they are jealous, see a slight, bord, drunk, and or robbery. 

Swords are hard to find in Thailand, though machetes are easy.

 

We have 2 or 3 around the place.

 

Can you please quote a figure or a percentage backed up by a link of how many Thai men actually do pick on farangs.

 

There are so many posts all saying one thing or another but nobody has given a figure that is or can be verified,

 

The original post was that 6 guys on 3 motorbikes attacked the Belgian. A later post says that the police arrested 4 youths but nothing about the other 2 guys.

 

So were there only 4 guys or 6.

[richard_smith237]

 

1 hour ago, MalcolmB said:

Possibly, but I very much doubt it.

Probably wasn't the smartest move carrying around 7,000 baht drunk late at night at that age.

 

'Probably' - highlights your bias long with the earlier comment that these guys don't look Thai... 

 

And... the thugs had no idea how much he was carrying until after they mugged him...  So the amount he was carrying has very little relevance to the actual attack...   he would have been attacked if he had no cash.

 

 

You also try and victim blame and imply he was drunk...   there is no mention of that...

 

 

 

 

 

[georgegeorgia]

1 hour ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

 

'Probably' - highlights your bias long with the earlier comment that these guys don't look Thai... 

 

And... the thugs had no idea how much he was carrying until after they mugged him...  So the amount he was carrying has very little relevance to the actual attack...   he would have been attacked if he had no cash.

 

 

You also try and victim blame and imply he was drunk...   there is no mention of that...

 

 

 

 

 

I'm wondering if they saw him withdraw from a ATM?

Or they saw in his wallet when he was in a 711 or something?

 

I mean it's a gamble on their part to pick him , imagine picking farangs around the NIRUN or FLYBIRD rooms in Pattaya ! All would lucky to have 10 baht 

 

[Neeranam]

6 hours ago, BritScot said:

Are you crazy! It's always happened. Did you see the size of that so called knife not! It was a sword! Thailand is very dangerous.  An innocent person can easily be set apon by a pack of rabit thai men-boys, and beaten, stabed or shot. Why? Because they are jealous, see a slight, bord, drunk, and or robbery. 

Why would they be jealous? What is a rabbit Thai man?

[Neeranam]

An 80 year old man should not be going around Pattaya by himself, especially if he needs a nurse to care for him. 

[georgegeorgia]

3 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

An 80 year old man should not be going around Pattaya by himself, especially if he needs a nurse to care for him. 

He should be in a nursing home 

[Neeranam]

1 minute ago, georgegeorgia said:

He should be in a nursing home 

Indeed. Where was his nurse, maybe an inside job?

[georgegeorgia]

1 minute ago, Neeranam said:

Indeed. Where was his nurse, maybe an inside job?

There's no need to discriminate on the man's age please !! 

[liddelljohn]

Thailand has always been dangerous , i was attacked in Soi Khaotalo by robbers in 2002  , unfortunately for them  I  has been shopping and had a hammer , several thais also came to my aid , by the time the BIB arrived the 2 scumbags needed urgent hospital treatment  after which they got 6 years each in Monkey house .

 

Another time in 2009   I was at a petrol station the esso near pattaya Tai on Sukumvit after picking my then 9 year old daughter up from Thaewanko when  4 teenage <deleted>bags  on scooters stormed in knocked me off my scooter , grabbed my wallet and phone  and  were hitting the 2 girl attendants to steal the cash ,,  but my little daughter was already a blackbelt and using he motorcycle helmet as a club  bashed and knocked out 2 of the  robbers , i got up and put another in a choke hold , the 4th ran off  and then the cops arrived .. All 4 ended up getting 10 years  , we were present in court  and the cops made it known in the jail that a 9 year old girl had knocked 2 of the <deleted> out so big loss of face for them ha ha

 

I have also been attempted robbery at knifepoint in my house in Soi Khaotalo back in 2016   did not end well for the robber  ,, . But attacking an elderly 80 year old  is a new low.. I hope the cops  catch and punish them  hard . other wise  they will grow .

[still kicking]

2 minutes ago, georgegeorgia said:

He should be in a nursing home 

Well I guess you should be in a  mental asylum 

[richard_smith237]

26 minutes ago, georgegeorgia said:

I'm wondering if they saw him withdraw from a ATM?

Or they saw in his wallet when he was in a 711 or something?

 

I mean it's a gamble on their part to pick him , imagine picking farangs around the NIRUN or FLYBIRD rooms in Pattaya ! All would lucky to have 10 baht 

 

Possible...  However, he was also in front of his moo-baan, so I'd assume he was on his way home and there's no need for cash at that time of night - is there even an ATM nearby in that area (within walking distance ?).

 

So, no, while remains an assumption, I don't think he will have been spotted using an ATM..  I think this is purely an opportunistic and random mugging...  but, more than a mugging, it was a horrific attack that could have very easily killed him. 

 

The issue with this is the potential for the 'contagion effect' where other youths see this and get a similar idea, to attack a foreigner, its a quick route to 7000 baht. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[liddelljohn]

when they catch those <deleted>  they should be  tied to trees covered in  cooking oil and left out all day  in the sun  , and then castrated ...