Social Media Posted January 6 Posted January 6 Dr. Muhammad Adrees and Dr. Mohammed Wajid Akhter, contenders for the position of secretary-general at the Muslim Council of Britain (MCB), have sparked debate due to their past comments and praise of Iran. As these candidates prepare for their initial hustings on Tuesday, a report by Policy Exchange, a think tank, highlights their "deeply disturbing" views, as described by a former Muslim Member of Parliament. In 2022, Dr. Akhter described being Muslim as an "act of revolutionary defiance" and suggested that British Muslims should prioritize their religious identity over their national identity. He wrote, "Most people teach their children to be their nationality or ethnicity first, but this gives such a limited and limiting view of yourself and others that this can lead children to be shallow. It is literally how the evils of nationalism, racism, and fascism are born. Choosing faith as a primary identity for your children (and of course yourself!) allows a solid foundation upon which to approach the world." He emphasized that this should be the "primary" identity rather than the "only" one, urging parents to teach their children to be Muslims primarily. Further, Akhter criticized New Year's celebrations, stating they "usually involve un-Islamic practices" like "mixed gender events where people dance and sing songs." He remarked, "It is necessarily an Islam-free zone, not least because it has no basis or relationship to Islam." In 2023 speeches, Akhter called for Muslims to "organize" and "unite" into a "powerful community" that could transition from "the hand that is begging to the hand that is giving." Dr. Adrees, in a 2017 article for *Islam Today* following his trip to Tehran, lauded the Iranian regime and the late Supreme Leader Ruhollah Khomeini. He praised the Iranian Revolution as a movement that led the nation to its destiny, speaking favorably about the republic's respect for minorities, despite reports of executions for blasphemy during that period. Khalid Mahmood, a senior fellow at Policy Exchange and Britain's longest-serving Muslim MP from 2001 to 2024, criticized the MCB, saying, "The views exposed by Policy Exchange are deeply disturbing. That the MCB keeps getting it wrong is no accident. It is a design fault rooted in its ideology. The government rightly refuses to engage with the MCB." The MCB, which advises on governance and diversity without issuing religious rulings, was initially embraced by Labour in 2005 but later distanced by successive governments after a senior member supported Hamas in 2009. In response to the report, the MCB accused Policy Exchange of having "a long history of hostility towards British Muslims," a claim the think tank denied. The council assured that their affiliates would thoroughly scrutinize candidates during the hustings events and through the democratic process. Akhter defended his candidacy, saying, "I am standing for secretary-general of the Muslim Council of Britain because I love my community and my country. British Muslims have made, and will continue to make, a positive contribution to our society. My vision is to strengthen unity among all Britons, fostering mutual respect, shared values, and opportunities for everyone to thrive. Any attempt to misrepresent my views or intentions is not only deeply misleading but entirely unfounded." Based on a report by The Times 2024-01-07
Popular Post Tailwagsdog Posted January 6 Popular Post Posted January 6 Free Speech does not entitle you to promote anarchy or destruction of democratic society. Please send these people to a place where their views align with others, or at least put them on trial for traitorous behaviour & foreign agent infiltration. 2 1 1 3 9
Popular Post Rampant Rabbit Posted January 6 Popular Post Posted January 6 12 minutes ago, Tailwagsdog said: Free Speech does not entitle you to promote anarchy or destruction of democratic society. Please send these people to a place where their views align with others, or at least put them on trial for traitorous behaviour & foreign agent infiltration. Theyve already tried to introdcue blasphemy laws 2 1 2
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted January 6 Popular Post Posted January 6 The concept of ‘God before country’ has a long history in Western Societies. 1 1 5 1 2
Popular Post soalbundy Posted January 6 Popular Post Posted January 6 So much for integration, alone that statement shows that Muslims are a danger to any country that takes them in. They slowly nible away at the customs of any country they reside in, I remember many years ago when I lived in the state of Bavaria, Germany, which is predominantly Catholic, all the crosses in every classroom of the schools had to be removed because they could eventually annoy Muslim students or their parents. I just can't understand why the governing bodies in Western countries bend over backwards to facilitate these people. 2 1 3 1 4 6
Popular Post soalbundy Posted January 7 Popular Post Posted January 7 11 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: The concept of ‘God before country’ has a long history in Western Societies. Which is why conscientious objectors in the two world wars were generally imprisoned. Identifying with either religion or country can mask a multitude of atrocities, as Samuel Johnson said in 1775, "patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel". I don't base my sense of self on religion or country but I find it wrong that a bunch of foreigners can enter a country, any country, and try to change the very fabric of its sense of community, that includes these over zealous Christian missionaries. 5 2
Popular Post jippytum Posted January 7 Popular Post Posted January 7 it is a discrace how radical muslims in the UK are noticably gaining a foothold in Britsh Politics and Britsh society in general. 1 2 3 11
Popular Post James105 Posted January 7 Popular Post Posted January 7 31 minutes ago, soalbundy said: I just can't understand why the governing bodies in Western countries bend over backwards to facilitate these people. Nor do I. History shows us what happened to Lebanon when the christian appeasers bent over backwards to be nice to Muslims. The UK is heading the same way. 2 2 4 5
Popular Post JonnyF Posted January 7 Popular Post Posted January 7 59 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: The concept of ‘God before country’ has a long history in Western Societies. As does "Liberals making excuses for violence and intolerance by specific groups". 3 1 4 1 6
Popular Post JonnyF Posted January 7 Popular Post Posted January 7 This guy unwittingly provides an excellent synopsis of why multi culturalism has failed. Especially when Islam is introduced into the mix. 2 2 2 1 2 5
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted January 7 Popular Post Posted January 7 2 minutes ago, JonnyF said: As does "Liberals making excuses for violence and intolerance by specific groups". I’m sure you believe that to be true. But how does your belief on the matter relate to the two candidates, neither of whom are promoting violence or intolerance? 1 3 4
Chomper Higgot Posted January 7 Posted January 7 19 minutes ago, jippytum said: it is a discrace how radical muslims in the UK are noticably gaining a foothold in Britsh Politics and Britsh society in general. What like, like these two, taking part in public life? Getting elected to represent their community? Working as Doctors in the NHS? Utterly disgraceful! 1 4 1
Popular Post JonnyF Posted January 7 Popular Post Posted January 7 5 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: I’m sure you believe that to be true. But how does your belief on the matter relate to the two candidates, neither of whom are promoting violence or intolerance? I guess you missed this part? Dr. Adrees, in a 2017 article for *Islam Today* following his trip to Tehran, lauded the Iranian regime and the late Supreme Leader Ruhollah Khomeini. He praised the Iranian Revolution as a movement that led the nation to its destiny, speaking favorably about the republic's respect for minorities, despite reports of executions for blasphemy during that period. 2 1 5 1 2
Chomper Higgot Posted January 7 Posted January 7 20 minutes ago, JonnyF said: I guess you missed this part? Dr. Adrees, in a 2017 article for *Islam Today* following his trip to Tehran, lauded the Iranian regime and the late Supreme Leader Ruhollah Khomeini. He praised the Iranian Revolution as a movement that led the nation to its destiny, speaking favorably about the republic's respect for minorities, despite reports of executions for blasphemy during that period. Can you point to the bit where Dr.Adrees promotes violence or intolerance for others. 35 minutes ago, JonnyF said: As does "Liberals making excuses for violence and intolerance by specific groups". 1 1 2
Popular Post Thingamabob Posted January 7 Popular Post Posted January 7 The Islamisation of Britain, and several other western European countries, is underway. I am advising younger family members to get out asap. 1 1 1 2 4
Popular Post JonnyF Posted January 7 Popular Post Posted January 7 Just now, Chomper Higgot said: Can you point to the bit where Dr.Adrees promotes violence or intolerance for others. Well, obviously by praising the Iranian regime and specifically Khomeini. Maybe you could do a bit of research on that regime and his hero that he is so quick to publicly praise. It's a bit like me praising the communist party of Kampuchea and saying Pol Pot was a terriffic bloke due to his relentless promotion of farming, but I am in no way promoting genoicidal dictatorships and vehemently resent such an accusation. 😆 2 1 1 3 2 3
Popular Post JonnyF Posted January 7 Popular Post Posted January 7 1 minute ago, jippytum said: The canditates . have a history of radical speech and support non intergration. People like you defending them are the reason Muslims are a threat in many countries Exactly. These lefty hand wringers are in fact enablers of the hate and intolerance that they claim to oppose. Essentially, apologists for hate in the name of diversity. 1 2 1 2
Popular Post proton Posted January 7 Popular Post Posted January 7 17 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: Can you point to the bit where Dr.Adrees promotes violence or intolerance for others. He believes in the Quran and follows a prophet who was a self confessed terrorist 1 1 1
Bkk Brian Posted January 7 Posted January 7 5 hours ago, Social Media said: In 2023 speeches, Akhter called for Muslims to "organize" and "unite" into a "powerful community" that could transition from "the hand that is begging to the hand that is giving." Yea right, no wonder British governments don't engage with them. I hope Labour keeps it that way 5 hours ago, Social Media said: The MCB, which advises on governance and diversity without issuing religious rulings, was initially embraced by Labour in 2005 but later distanced by successive governments after a senior member supported Hamas in 2009. 1
georgegeorgia Posted January 7 Posted January 7 1 hour ago, soalbundy said: So much for integration, alone that statement shows that Muslims are a danger to any country that takes them in. They slowly nible away at the customs of any country they reside in, I remember many years ago when I lived in the state of Bavaria, Germany, which is predominantly Catholic, all the crosses in every classroom of the schools had to be removed because they could eventually annoy Muslim students or their parents. I just can't understand why the governing bodies in Western countries bend over backwards to facilitate these people. Oh please there's no need to have Islamophobia,we must embrace for cultural enrichment and even learn some of it to better understand and accept the difference in cultural aspects 2 1 4
Popular Post georgegeorgia Posted January 7 Popular Post Posted January 7 27 minutes ago, Thingamabob said: The Islamisation of Britain, and several other western European countries, is underway. I am advising younger family members to get out asap. Oh the level of paranoia ? Embrace the change ,your fellow Countrymen are accepting it and you must too. I just watched a beautiful YouTube video of old age english people in London protesting for MORE immigration,how beautiful of these aged people to embrace new cultures into their homeland Learn , embrace and accept just like the old British pensioners 1 1 1 2
Popular Post soalbundy Posted January 7 Popular Post Posted January 7 Just now, georgegeorgia said: Oh please there's no need to have Islamophobia,we must embrace for cultural enrichment and even learn some of it to better understand and accept the difference in cultural aspects I don't know where this quote came from but I agree with it. "Not every Muslim is a trouble maker but where there is trouble there is a Muslim." 1 1 1 1 5
georgegeorgia Posted January 7 Posted January 7 2 minutes ago, soalbundy said: I don't know where this quote came from but I agree with it. "Not every Muslim is a trouble maker but where there is trouble there is a Muslim." Oh that's absolutely shocking thing to say ...please I can't fathom the "hate" you have in your heart I love meeting muslim men and always kiss them.on all three cheeks ,maybe you should learn to accept the world is changing 1 2
The Cyclist Posted January 7 Posted January 7 The clue is staring everyone right in the face. " The Muslim Council of Britain " which indicates future intent When it should be " The Council of British Muslims " Which indicates tolerence, respect and a desire to integrate. 1 2 1
Chomper Higgot Posted January 7 Posted January 7 1 hour ago, JonnyF said: Well, obviously by praising the Iranian regime and specifically Khomeini. Maybe you could do a bit of research on that regime and his hero that he is so quick to publicly praise. It's a bit like me praising the communist party of Kampuchea and saying Pol Pot was a terriffic bloke due to his relentless promotion of farming, but I am in no way promoting genoicidal dictatorships and vehemently resent such an accusation. 😆 Maybe you could do a bit of research on the candidates and come up with them actually promoting violence or intolerance. 1 3 1
roo860 Posted January 7 Posted January 7 29 minutes ago, georgegeorgia said: Oh that's absolutely shocking thing to say ...please I can't fathom the "hate" you have in your heart I love meeting muslim men and always kiss them.on all three cheeks ,maybe you should learn to accept the world is changing Slow day cleaning the lavvies? 1
Popular Post JonnyF Posted January 7 Popular Post Posted January 7 8 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: Maybe you could do a bit of research on the candidates and come up with them actually promoting violence or intolerance. You mean like showing support for violent, tyrannical, murderous regimes? 5
mikeymike100 Posted January 7 Posted January 7 1 hour ago, proton said: He believes in the Quran and follows a prophet who was a self confessed terrorist Correct, the prophet who murdered hundreds of people and was a pedophile! 1 1
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