Sir Dude Posted January 7 Posted January 7 Theft and looting etc. are serious offences, and I'll tell you why. The right to property and the protection of it is one of the fundamental rights that holds society together, and has done for a very long time... without it naturally comes banditry, lawlessness and a breakdown of society and its norms. What is the point of working to better your and your family's lives in the future and have things, paying taxes, saving money for retirement, doing the right thing, trying to do business and creating jobs, playing the game in all sorts of way so that there is a future for law-abiding people if some braindead oxygen thief can just turn up anytime they like and take it away using violence with no consequences? None at all. Theft should have a standard jail term of 1 year. This is why the West is decaying, because it is weak and society has lost its way. Most of the rest of the world take theft very seriously for the exact reason I've outlined, as its a huge threat to the health of society and culture... it wasn't so long ago that looting would elicit a very harsh sentence, even being sometimes summarily shot, and there was far less theft than now. 1 1
Popular Post JonnyF Posted January 7 Popular Post Posted January 7 1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said: You ‘guarantee’ Jonny. Don’t absurd man. You baselessly assert. Not baseless at all. https://www.statista.com/statistics/303563/shoplifting-in-england-and-wales-uk-y-on-y/ 1 1 2
Popular Post Nick Carter icp Posted January 7 Popular Post Posted January 7 1 hour ago, ronster said: Need copy middle eastern countries when caught for this crime. Bye bye hands , won't be stealing again ! *But he had a difficulty childhood , bought up in poverty in a single parent family and he fell in with the wrong crowd , he wanted to be lawyer or a football player when he gets older , he's the REAL victim in this , give him weekly money so he doesn't have to steal it* 3 1
Popular Post RichardColeman Posted January 7 Popular Post Posted January 7 5 hours ago, JonnyF said: Welcome to the UK. No, just the same as the states, left wing cities, led by left wingers soft on crime 1 1 1 1 1
Popular Post Peterphuket Posted January 7 Popular Post Posted January 7 2 hours ago, ronster said: Need copy middle eastern countries when caught for this crime. Bye bye hands , won't be stealing again ! I wouldn't be surprised if that's where those people came from. 1 1 2
ronster Posted January 7 Posted January 7 5 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said: *But he had a difficulty childhood , bought up in poverty in a single parent family and he fell in with the wrong crowd , he wanted to be lawyer or a football player when he gets older , he's the REAL victim in this , give him weekly money so he doesn't have to steal it* All while walking around wearing £200-400 trainers and a £500-1500 jacket . 🙈
Popular Post JonnyF Posted January 7 Popular Post Posted January 7 3 minutes ago, Sir Dude said: This is why the West is decaying, because it is weak and society has lost its way. Most of the rest of the world take theft very seriously for the exact reason I've outlined, as its a huge threat to the health of society and culture... it wasn't so long ago that looting would elicit a very harsh sentence, even being sometimes summarily shot, and there was far less theft than now. It's basically down to hand wringing Liberals being apologists for the criminals. A weakening of society. If you look around the world, the countries with the stiffest penalties generally have the lowest crimes rates. Saudi Arabia for example. Try stealing in Thailand. You'll probably get half the shop staff beating you to a pulp within 10 seconds of getting out the door. Especially if it's a privately owned business. Here in the West, you're more likely to get a blue haired therapist with a septum ring asking you how you "feel" about your crime, and asking you to share where your "shoplifting journey" began. 1 1 1 4
Neeranam Posted January 7 Posted January 7 6 hours ago, JonnyF said: Welcome to the UK. Cue lots of excuses about a difficult childhood, some Liberal hand wringing, followed by a slap on the wrist. They need the cells for social media posters. Bring back the Dickensian workhouses eh? Put them in the tower of London. 1
Popular Post JonnyF Posted January 7 Popular Post Posted January 7 Just now, Neeranam said: Bring back the Dickensian workhouses eh? Put them in the tower of London. Sounds a bit harsh to me. Jail would suffice. They could make space for them by releasing some of the people given lengthy sentences for being "grossly offensive" on social media. Just a thought... 2 1 1
Neeranam Posted January 7 Posted January 7 11 hours ago, Social Media said: The chaos began as the store’s security guard attempted to block one of the youths from entering. Fire him, he was useless. 1
thaibeachlovers Posted January 7 Posted January 7 30 minutes ago, Sir Dude said: it wasn't so long ago that looting would elicit a very harsh sentence, even being sometimes summarily shot, and there was far less theft than now. Being sent to the Ukrainian front line seems a suitable punishment for youth offenders. If they survive they may appreciate being part of society more. The UK should get some benefit for all the support they have been giving. It's the least Zelensky can do in return.
Nick Carter icp Posted January 7 Posted January 7 4 minutes ago, Neeranam said: Fire him, he was useless. Its more likely that they would fire him IF he he put more effort into stopping them , stores forbid their employees from using any violence and its a sackable offence to hit a thief
Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted January 7 Popular Post Posted January 7 Meanwhile so called Mayor of London is knighted for his services to the capital!! 1 2
mokwit Posted January 7 Posted January 7 5 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said: grievance This word currently the word with Lefties who get their "thinking" and talking points from Leftie Central. Didn't we hear Stalin Starmer use it yesterday? 2
mokwit Posted January 7 Posted January 7 1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said: Be careful with the Brit Bashing, you’ll upset the hypersensitive patriots around here. Are you British Chomper? Historically the British have not thought well of traitors.
pacovl46 Posted January 7 Posted January 7 When will these idiots realize that any stolen apple device can be locked by Apple and rendered useless to them, which they will?!
mokwit Posted January 7 Posted January 7 1 hour ago, pacovl46 said: When will these idiots realize that any stolen apple device can be locked by Apple and rendered useless to them, which they will?! So if/when they move to a subscription based model if you don't comply they can turn your 'phone off?
SiSePuede419 Posted January 7 Posted January 7 England hasn't been the same since those darn immigrants: 1. Beaker People (c. 2500–2000 BCE) 2. Celts (c. 500–100 BCE 3. Romans (43–410 CE) 4. Anglo-Saxons (5th–7th centuries) 5. Vikings (9th–11th centuries 6. Normans (11th century) 7. Huguenots (16th–17th centuries) 8. Flemish Weavers (14th–17th centuries) 9. Irish (18th–19th centuries) 10. Jewish Refugees (17th–19th centuries) 11. German Workers (19th century): 12. Commonwealth Nations (Post-1948): Immigrants from former British colonies, including: Caribbean (Windrush Generation): Beginning in 1948, large numbers from Jamaica, Trinidad, and Barbados. South Asia: Immigrants from India, Pakistan, and Bangladesh, particularly after Indian Partition in 1947. Africa: Migrants from Nigeria, Kenya, and Uganda, especially during decolonization. 13. Polish (World War II and post-2004 EU expansion): Refugees during WWII and economic migrants after Poland joined the EU. 14. Eastern Europeans (Post-2004 EU expansion 15. Middle Eastern Refugees (20th–21st centuries): Refugees from conflicts in Iraq, Syria, and Afghanistan. Ongoing Influences Chinese and East Asian Communities: Established through trade and migration, particularly in the 19th and 20th centuries. Turkish and Kurdish Migrants Arrivied for economic and political reasons. (Shakes fist) Bunch of savages who refused to assimilate! 😭 1 1
richard_smith237 Posted January 7 Posted January 7 2 hours ago, pacovl46 said: When will these idiots realize that any stolen apple device can be locked by Apple and rendered useless to them, which they will?! If they can't be unlocked in the UK, the 'lock' can potentially be bypassed by the factories in China that receive these stolen goods... if they can't be unlocked, they are broken down for parts.... These were likely just idiots copying the crime in New York and Paris... they were quickly and seemingly easily apprehended, probably because they were all rather stupid... The concern of course is other idiots copy-catting due to all the media attention.
Nick Carter icp Posted January 7 Posted January 7 38 minutes ago, SiSePuede419 said: England hasn't been the same since those darn immigrants: 1. Beaker People (c. 2500–2000 BCE) 2. Celts (c. 500–100 BCE 3. Romans (43–410 CE) 4. Anglo-Saxons (5th–7th centuries) 5. Vikings (9th–11th centuries 6. Normans (11th century) 7. Huguenots (16th–17th centuries) 8. Flemish Weavers (14th–17th centuries) 9. Irish (18th–19th centuries) 10. Jewish Refugees (17th–19th centuries) 11. German Workers (19th century): 12. Commonwealth Nations (Post-1948): Immigrants from former British colonies, including: Caribbean (Windrush Generation): Beginning in 1948, large numbers from Jamaica, Trinidad, and Barbados. South Asia: Immigrants from India, Pakistan, and Bangladesh, particularly after Indian Partition in 1947. Africa: Migrants from Nigeria, Kenya, and Uganda, especially during decolonization. 13. Polish (World War II and post-2004 EU expansion): Refugees during WWII and economic migrants after Poland joined the EU. 14. Eastern Europeans (Post-2004 EU expansion 15. Middle Eastern Refugees (20th–21st centuries): Refugees from conflicts in Iraq, Syria, and Afghanistan. Ongoing Influences Chinese and East Asian Communities: Established through trade and migration, particularly in the 19th and 20th centuries. Turkish and Kurdish Migrants Arrivied for economic and political reasons. (Shakes fist) Bunch of savages who refused to assimilate! 😭 Did you post that in the right thread ? This thread is about a London shop and theft
OneMoreFarang Posted January 7 Posted January 7 4 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said: Not being a cop, if he injured one of the little darlings he would be in the dock himself. Just shoot and kill them all, Dirty Harry style, problem solved. 1
spot Posted January 7 Posted January 7 10 hours ago, RuamRudy said: Maybe this has something to do with the shocking state of affairs across all countries in the UK? Shock figures reveal 23,500 police staff cut under the Tories The Conservatives talk tough on crime but they are failing to keep the public safe, says GMB 23,500 police staff jobs have been lost in England and Wales since 2010, figures from GMB, the union for police staff, reveal. ... The most affected region is London, which has lost almost half (47 per cent or 9,000 jobs) of its police staff since 2010, including 72 per cent of PCSOs. The worst of the cuts were inflicted in the Metropolitan Police during Boris Johnson’s term as Mayor of London. https://www.gmb.org.uk/news/shock-figures-reveal-23500-police-staff-cut-under-tories Yep.
G_Money Posted January 7 Posted January 7 Many of you UK types sound like Trump supporters in America. This particular incident is just one of what has happened in America COULD and has happened in the UK.
spot Posted January 7 Posted January 7 16 hours ago, RuamRudy said: Maybe this has something to do with the shocking state of affairs across all countries in the UK? Shock figures reveal 23,500 police staff cut under the Tories The Conservatives talk tough on crime but they are failing to keep the public safe, says GMB 23,500 police staff jobs have been lost in England and Wales since 2010, figures from GMB, the union for police staff, reveal. ... The most affected region is London, which has lost almost half (47 per cent or 9,000 jobs) of its police staff since 2010, including 72 per cent of PCSOs. The worst of the cuts were inflicted in the Metropolitan Police during Boris Johnson’s term as Mayor of London. https://www.gmb.org.uk/news/shock-figures-reveal-23500-police-staff-cut-under-tories
spot Posted January 7 Posted January 7 5 hours ago, G_Money said: Many of you UK types sound like Trump supporters in America. This particular incident is just one of what has happened in America COULD and has happened in the UK. What these kids have done is wrong. No excuses, but if you're pointing fingers (or guns), how about also thinking about what world you've created? Who do these kids have to look up to, and where are the decent older adults in charge showing them the way? Greed and corruption rule more than ever. Billionaires are brazenly controlling governments and trying to exert control over world events Violent hate for others is spewed out constantly by stupid, dumb people. The same dumb people use hard-won votes to elect super-rich, emperor-wannabe leaders who preach about taking what you can and stepping on everyone on the way to getting it. This same idiot class champions the new billionaire-class aristocracy, doffing their caps, while complaining that the working class are getting shafted by the establishment (now that is dumb). What's wrong with kids these days, why don't they have any respect? 1
thaibeachlovers Posted January 7 Posted January 7 2 hours ago, spot said: What these kids have done is wrong. No excuses, but if you're pointing fingers (or guns), how about also thinking about what world you've created? Who do these kids have to look up to, and where are the decent older adults in charge showing them the way? Greed and corruption rule more than ever. Billionaires are brazenly controlling governments and trying to exert control over world events Violent hate for others is spewed out constantly by stupid, dumb people. The same dumb people use hard-won votes to elect super-rich, emperor-wannabe leaders who preach about taking what you can and stepping on everyone on the way to getting it. This same idiot class champions the new billionaire-class aristocracy, doffing their caps, while complaining that the working class are getting shafted by the establishment (now that is dumb). What's wrong with kids these days, why don't they have any respect? Nothing to disagree with on that from me, but I'm on record as saying that rotten western society is doomed anyway. The conditions have been met and it's just a matter of time before the fat lady sings, IMO.
Gandtee Posted January 8 Posted January 8 18 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said: Police walking around the streets doesn't do anything to stop crime , There is CCTV everywhere and there was also security on the door , police aimlessly wandering around the streets wouldn't be a deterrent When police were on the beat they were more in tune with the community and received quiet tip offs from the public. 1
SiSePuede419 Posted January 8 Posted January 8 15 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said: Did you post that in the right thread ? This thread is about a London shop and theft Immigrant Bashing seems to be a popular UK past time nowadays... Magically only immigrants do crimes not Sad Chads on the Dole. 😄 1
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