4 minutes ago, ericthai said:

 stuff like this

Biden makes an 11th-hour move to block coastal oil drilling

 

https://www.npr.org/2025/01/06/nx-s1-5249765/biden-offshore-drilling-ban

 

 

The folks who live in those coastal States, including the state that voted for Trump, are most likely very grateful for biden's action. During his last term, Trump backed off on his threats to open up some Waters off the state of Florida to drilling.

2 minutes ago, placeholder said:

The folks who live in those coastal States, including the state that voted for Trump, are most likely very grateful for biden's action. During his last term, Trump backed off on his threats to open up some Waters off the state of Florida to drilling.

we have a house in Florida on the gulf side ( about 1mile from the coast. Grew up there.) I'm not happy about this.

There has been drilling in the gulf since the 1940's there are 7 platforms out there right now. 

but that's not the issue he didn't just stop drilling in the gulf it includes allot more.

 

Today, President Biden took action to protect the entire U.S. East coast, the eastern Gulf of Mexico, the Pacific off the coasts of Washington, Oregon, and California, and additional portions of the Northern Bering Sea in Alaska from future oil and natural gas leasing. In protecting more than 625 million acres of the U.S. ocean from offshore drilling, President Biden has determined that the environmental and economic risks and harms that would result from drilling in these areas outweigh their limited fossil fuel resource potential. With these withdrawals, President Biden has now conserved over 670 million acres of America’s lands and waters, more than any other president in history.

12 minutes ago, ericthai said:

we have a house in Florida on the gulf side ( about 1mile from the coast. Grew up there.) I'm not happy about this.

There has been drilling in the gulf since the 1940's there are 7 platforms out there right now. 

but that's not the issue he didn't just stop drilling in the gulf it includes allot more.

 

Today, President Biden took action to protect the entire U.S. East coast, the eastern Gulf of Mexico, the Pacific off the coasts of Washington, Oregon, and California, and additional portions of the Northern Bering Sea in Alaska from future oil and natural gas leasing. In protecting more than 625 million acres of the U.S. ocean from offshore drilling, President Biden has determined that the environmental and economic risks and harms that would result from drilling in these areas outweigh their limited fossil fuel resource potential. With these withdrawals, President Biden has now conserved over 670 million acres of America’s lands and waters, more than any other president in history.

Wise decision.

10 minutes ago, ericthai said:

we have a house in Florida on the gulf side ( about 1mile from the coast. Grew up there.) I'm not happy about this.

There has been drilling in the gulf since the 1940's there are 7 platforms out there right now. 

but that's not the issue he didn't just stop drilling in the gulf it includes allot more.

 

Today, President Biden took action to protect the entire U.S. East coast, the eastern Gulf of Mexico, the Pacific off the coasts of Washington, Oregon, and California, and additional portions of the Northern Bering Sea in Alaska from future oil and natural gas leasing. In protecting more than 625 million acres of the U.S. ocean from offshore drilling, President Biden has determined that the environmental and economic risks and harms that would result from drilling in these areas outweigh their limited fossil fuel resource potential. With these withdrawals, President Biden has now conserved over 670 million acres of America’s lands and waters, more than any other president in history.

'"Last week, Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.) took to the House floor with an unusual request: He asked his colleagues to block oil drilling off the coast of his home state.
“Offshore drilling is broadly opposed by coastal communities in these areas, by local governments,” said Gaetz, a conservative who has clashed with House Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.).
The request was unusual because Gaetz — and most other Republicans on Capitol Hill — have generally supported drilling on federal lands and waters."

https://archive.ph/yOJQQ

1 hour ago, ericthai said:

 stuff like this

Biden makes an 11th-hour move to block coastal oil drilling

 

https://www.npr.org/2025/01/06/nx-s1-5249765/biden-offshore-drilling-ban

 

 

It doesn't seem it will have much impact, according to experts, I.e.:

 

"LSU professor David Dismukes, an energy sector economist, said he expects nothing of real significance to come out of Biden’s decision.

 

Most of the crude oil extracted in the U.S. comes from the Permian Basin, a vast area spanning western Texas and southeastern New Mexico. Only about 15% comes from offshore drilling in federal waters, and that is overwhelmingly concentrated in the western and central Gulf of Mexico, according to the U.S. Energy Information Administration.

 

“It’d take decades to get the eastern [Gulf of Mexico] and Atlantic and parts of Alaska into position for drilling, particularly anything remotely like what we see in the central and western [Gulf of Mexico],” Dismukes said.

Restricting areas from future development is not good for long-term resource availability, Dismukes said, adding that he doesn’t see Biden’s new restrictions being a big negative."

 

Biden order expands Trump’s offshore drilling ban from 2020

Analyst says ban will have little effect on oil and gas industry

https://lailluminator.com/2025/01/07/biden-order-expands-trumps-offshore-drilling-ban-from-2020/

9 hours ago, ericthai said:

we have a house in Florida on the gulf side ( about 1mile from the coast. Grew up there.) I'm not happy about this.

There has been drilling in the gulf since the 1940's there are 7 platforms out there right now. 

but that's not the issue he didn't just stop drilling in the gulf it includes allot more.

 

Today, President Biden took action to protect the entire U.S. East coast, the eastern Gulf of Mexico, the Pacific off the coasts of Washington, Oregon, and California, and additional portions of the Northern Bering Sea in Alaska from future oil and natural gas leasing. In protecting more than 625 million acres of the U.S. ocean from offshore drilling, President Biden has determined that the environmental and economic risks and harms that would result from drilling in these areas outweigh their limited fossil fuel resource potential. With these withdrawals, President Biden has now conserved over 670 million acres of America’s lands and waters, more than any other president in history.

 

I just bought some land on the Gulf of America side about 7 miles inland. I thought the drilling might bother me but I don't care. I came here in a truck hauling a camper to get started. There is also a nuclear power plant in the area. There are million dollar homes and trailers. I love Florida.

I don't really care either, however as someone who grew up on the Florida Sun Coast and spent tons of time in the Gulf of Mexico, mainly Sarasota/Bradenton, Florida Keys, but also Clearwater and Pine Island...It'll always be the Gulf of Mexico to me. Gulf of America just sounds silly and is quite petty. But that's Trump...silly and petty, among many other much more loathsome qualities. 

10 hours ago, ericthai said:

On 1/8/2025 at 11:08 AM, Phillip9 said:

I'm guessing trump is too dumb to realize that no one in Mexico will be offended by the change since in Spanish the USA is called Estados Unidos, and has nothing to do with America.  In every country south of the USA the term America refers to the continents and not the USA.

I dont think Trump is trying to offended anyone, think it's just another one of his big mouth ideas for attention.

 

Trump purposely tries to offend, upset, and shock people every time he speaks.  That is his entire political strategy.  He does it to distract people and prevent them from focusing on serious topics.  He was absolutely trying to be offensive with that suggestion.

11 hours ago, Cryingdick said:

 

I prefer Bay of Trump.

 

Seems appropriate.  The curve of the coastline around Mexico and Texas does look like Trump's big round belly.

4 minutes ago, Phillip9 said:

 

Trump purposely tries to offend, upset, and shock people every time he speaks.  That is his entire political strategy.  He does it to distract people and prevent them from focusing on serious topics.  He was absolutely trying to be offensive with that suggestion.

This may be true. I was watching an interview with the great Canadian investor Kevin O'Leary who said much the same. When Trump talks, it is bombast. You have to forget about the noise and concentrate on the message underneath. Yet the media foolishly focuses on the noise. Reality is that it is a negotiating strategy.

Gulf of America?

 

Why not Gulf of Trump?

 

Can't wait to see what he wants to rename Greenland? Whiteland?

 

 

 

 

On 1/9/2025 at 5:11 AM, CANSIAM said:

Give it 7-8 months, Musk and Trump will turn their backs on one another......

 

On 1/9/2025 at 5:15 AM, Jingthing said:

I would make no such predictions, especially considering Trump's rapidly accelerating mental and physical decline.

Musk has money, effectively unlimited money. He is the world's richest man?

 

Trump values, covets money, above all else.

 

Musk wants power.

 

They will stick together like <deleted> to a blanket.

On 1/8/2025 at 5:24 AM, Cryingdick said:

Why not?

International waters pet, not his decision to make.

On 1/8/2025 at 8:34 AM, Jingthing said:

Why not?

Personally I don't really care.

It turns out that the government CAN change the name.

But that doesn't mean that the U.S. can compel people outside the U.S. to change the maps and use a new name as the Gulf of Mexico has stood for 400 years.

Perhaps a compromise?

Golfo de Estados Unidos? 

Also to say Gulf of America is not really specific enough.

The Americas span two continents.

There is only one Mexico.

The old quote -- 

Poor Mexico. So far from God and close to the United States comes to mind. 

It figures you would support Mexico over your country.

9 minutes ago, Hamus Yaigh said:

International waters pet, not his decision to make.

That is one of the dumbest argumentsi have ever heard. The USA can call it whatever it wants to.

13 hours ago, Cryingdick said:

 

I prefer Bay of Trump.

aka...Bay of Freak 

On 1/9/2025 at 9:30 AM, Hawaiian said:

Does that include the Republican members of Congress?   He will not have the dictatorial powers as some claim. 

Hmmmm...  a history "buff".... LOL

Is this episode part of the history you've studied?

https://www.voanews.com/a/republicans-voted-to-impeach-trump-after-capitol-riot-but-only-2-will-remain-in-congress-/6705694.html

 

1 hour ago, gamb00ler said:

Hmmmm...  a history "buff".... LOL

Is this episode part of the history you've studied?

https://www.voanews.com/a/republicans-voted-to-impeach-trump-after-capitol-riot-but-only-2-will-remain-in-congress-/6705694.html

 

Link does not work.  I am assuming it's about the seven Republicans that voted to impeach Donald Trump.  Will get back to you after we finish our dinner.

On 1/9/2025 at 5:15 AM, Jingthing said:

I would make no such predictions, especially considering Trump's rapidly accelerating mental and physical decline.

 

What difference, at this point, does it make?

 

Biden has already set (p)recedent for keeping a drooling, senile, depends-filler as leader of the free world.

 

Make America Geriatric Again!

History reminds us of another fat posturing buffoon, fond of using makeup, who tried to make his mark by renaming a sea. The Mediterranean was to be known as "Mare Nostra" or something like that?

 

That ended well didn't it? Petrol station in Milan wasn't it? Drill baby drill!

3 hours ago, gamb00ler said:

Hmmmm...  a history "buff".... LOL

Is this episode part of the history you've studied?

https://www.voanews.com/a/republicans-voted-to-impeach-trump-after-capitol-riot-but-only-2-will-remain-in-congress-/6705694.html

 

I never claimed to be a history expert.  I wrote history buff.  The difference can be found in any dictionary. 

2 hours ago, Hawaiian said:

Link does not work.  I am assuming it's about the seven Republicans that voted to impeach Donald Trump.  Will get back to you after we finish our dinner.

Correction: it was ten House Republicans that voted to impeach and seven Republican senators that voted to convict.

3 minutes ago, Hawaiian said:

I never claimed to be a history expert.  I wrote history buff.  The difference can be found in any dictionary. 

It seems more likely you chose to ignore the history you don't like.

12 minutes ago, gamb00ler said:

It seems more likely you chose to ignore the history you don't like.

Who is ignoring history?  The fact is some Republican house members decided not to run for reelection for the fear of Trump's wrath.  Just because Trump was pissed off doesn't give him dictatorial power.  You definitely have a knack for distortion. If you have a point to make, make it.  Rather doubt you know what you are talking about.

Regarding the OP: why not?  It's not unusual for different countries to have different names for geographical features or even whole countries.  For example The English Channel - La Manche or Japan - Nippon, etc.

On 1/8/2025 at 9:54 AM, Lacessit said:

JHC, there's a cost of living, homeless, and public health crisis in America, and Trump wants to change a <deleted> name? Surreal.

Jesus H Christ, surreal indeed.  Has he said that he does not want to deal with the cost of living, the homeless and public health and that The Gulf of <deleted> Whatever is his priority?  Didn't think so.

 

 

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On 1/8/2025 at 10:02 AM, bendejo said:

A diversion.  The nasty stuff is what he doesn't talk about publicly. 

 

Which is?

On 1/8/2025 at 10:08 AM, Will B Good said:

he has (or believes he has) presidential immunity for his actions

He has, as does every other President.

On 1/8/2025 at 10:56 AM, Cryingdick said:

What do the French call the English Channel? 

La Manche.

1 minute ago, Liverpool Lou said:

He has, as does every other President.

The question of whether Donald Trump (or any former U.S. president) has immunity for actions taken during his presidency is nuanced and depends on the context.

 

Trump does not have blanket immunity for all actions taken during his coming presidency, especially those deemed personal, outside the scope of his duties, or potentially criminal.