https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jan/12/steve-bannon-calls-elon-musk-racist

 

I have to agree with the above article. Why is a South African meddling in American politics. Its not his place to do so. 

His opinion matters though. Why does your opinion matter

People should just ignore him.

Let him do his cars and rockets and go to Mars and leave us alone.

 

3 hours ago, ubonr1971 said:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jan/12/steve-bannon-calls-elon-musk-racist

 

I have to agree with the above article. Why is a South African meddling in American politics. Its not his place to do so. 

He's a citizen of the USA, and even if he wasn't, Yank's honor free speech & expression of one's opinions.

 

Apparently, as pointed out to me, in a different thread, many other countries do  not have freedom of expression.  

 

He's going to be part of President Trump's administration 'team', so why would he not have access.

 

Maybe Musk is going to go for the position of Canadian PM.....set up his own party, become an MP first.

 

He could then gift Canada to Trump?

4 hours ago, ubonr1971 said:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jan/12/steve-bannon-calls-elon-musk-racist

 

I have to agree with the above article. Why is a South African meddling in American politics. Its not his place to do so. 

So the left love it when Hungarians meddle in American politics, particularly when it makes the country more dangerous. But a well meaning American citizen born in South Africa who is a genius and is weighing in on how to save $$ and bring back common sense is a big no no? Sorry, your logic is deeply flawed.

6 hours ago, Will B Good said:

 

Maybe Musk is going to go for the position of Canadian PM.....set up his own party, become an MP first.

 

He could then gift Canada to Trump?

 

You do understand that someone becoming PM of a country doesn't mean that person owns that country personally, right?

8 minutes ago, tai4de2 said:

 

You do understand that someone becoming PM of a country doesn't mean that person owns that country personally, right?

But that doesn't mean that Trump and Musk care about such little details. 😉 

5 minutes ago, tai4de2 said:

 

You do understand that someone becoming PM of a country doesn't mean that person owns that country personally, right?

 

He probably doesn't understand to be Prime Minister doesn't mean being Head of State.

 

Canada already has a Governor, Mary Smon, who represents the Head of State, Charles III. The Crown has reserve powers, such that the "power of the people above government and political parties", such that a Prime Minister Musk, should he propose such a move, would likely find himself strung up.

2 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

But that doesn't mean that Trump and Musk care about such little details. 😉 

So long as they own it through a web of 20 LLCs the left will be cock a hoop about it, and will remove from debate anyone saying hang on a minute are we sure obvious corruption is wise at Presidential level😅

The desperate covering up of corrupt activities must be stressing the left now they lost the election.

6 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

So the left love it when Hungarians meddle in American politics, particularly when it makes the country more dangerous. But a well meaning American citizen born in South Africa who is a genius and is weighing in on how to save $$ and bring back common sense is a big no no? Sorry, your logic is deeply flawed.

 

6 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

So the left love it when Hungarians meddle in American politics, particularly when it makes the country more dangerous. But a well meaning American citizen born in South Africa who is a genius and is weighing in on how to save $$ and bring back common sense is a big no no? Sorry, your logic is deeply flawed.

 

I also found it quite amusing to see the hordes of leftists suddenly taking offence at a billionnaire getting involved in politics. Shows you how much they've been paying attention these past decades. I guess as long as it isn't under Trump, it's OK…

 

 

 

2 hours ago, rattlesnake said:

I also found it quite amusing to see the hordes of leftists suddenly taking offence at a billionnaire getting involved in politics. Shows you how much they've been paying attention these past decades. I guess as long as it isn't under Trump, it's OK…

 

There is a difference in how much they get involved.

How many American billionaires declared in public that they will give big money to foreign opposition parties?

How many American billionaires told people in public to remove their current leaders and vote for radicals?

 

Musk is smart, but somehow, he thinks he knows everything about anything. He doesn't! 

 

8 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

 

There is a difference in how much they get involved.

How many American billionaires declared in public that they will give big money to foreign opposition parties?

How many American billionaires told people in public to remove their current leaders and vote for radicals?

 

Musk is smart, but somehow, he thinks he knows everything about anything. He doesn't! 

 

 

How many American billionaires decide what goes into our body with no oversight ot accountability?

 

How Bill Gates and partners used their clout to control the global Covid response — with little oversight

 

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/09/14/global-covid-pandemic-response-bill-gates-partners-00053969

41 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

 

How many American billionaires decide what goes into our body with no oversight ot accountability?

 

How Bill Gates and partners used their clout to control the global Covid response — with little oversight

 

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/09/14/global-covid-pandemic-response-bill-gates-partners-00053969

How many people cowered & complied without thinking for themselves ?

 

Even when so many were trying to enlighten you to the truth.  That they were all censored and removed from the internet was enough to tell you, something was seriously wrong.

 

How many people forgot everything they learned, and actually believed all the BS they were told ?

 

How many people no longer used common sense, and gave into fear and didn't question anything ?

 

How many thousands have died already, and how many more are going to ?

 

Lesson learned I hope.  Don't be so stupid next time.  Believing people that have done nothing but lied to you for decades. 

 

Som naa na

14 hours ago, ubonr1971 said:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jan/12/steve-bannon-calls-elon-musk-racist

 

I have to agree with the above article. Why is a South African meddling in American politics. Its not his place to do so. 

 

Who is the South African?  Elon Musk is a US Citizen.

Understandably, Steve Bannon is  jealous of Musk's relationship with Trump, but  using someone's heritage to  persecute them is rather vile. Musk is no different than any other US citizen born elsewhere. Whether it was Bob Hope from England,  or Zbigniew Kazimierz Brzezinski from Poland, or Senator Ted Cruz from Canada, they are all US citizens and have every right to participate in the US political process.

 

 

11 hours ago, KhunLA said:

He's a citizen of the USA, and even if he wasn't, Yank's honor free speech & expression of one's opinions.

 

 

Haha, your arrogance is showing. If Musk was not a US citizen his activities would be ILLEGAL. There is no political freedom of expression guarantee for a foreigner doing what Musk is doing. Musk disbursed US$277 million for Trump's election.

 

Federal law prohibits contributions, donations, expenditures(including independent expenditures) and disbursements solicited, directed, received or made directly or indirectly by or from foreign nationals in connection with any federal, state or local election. This prohibition includes advances of personal funds, contributions or donations made to political party committees and organizations, state or local party committees for the purchase or construction of an office building funds under 11 CFR 300.35, and contributions or disbursements to make electioneering communications. Foreign nationals are also prohibited from, directly or indirectly, donating to an inaugural committee; and it is a violation of federal law to knowingly accept such donations from a foreign national.

 

Don't feel bad though, because Airalee wins the most bigoted and clueless post prize of this thread (so far) to support the equally nonsensical comment about "Hungarians". I don't know if the motive was malicious bigotry or ignorance to post  photos of Alex Soros. Alex Soros is not Hungarian. He was born in New York City and is a US national. His mother is the noted American Historian Susan Weber, who was also born in New York City and is a US citizen.  

 

4 hours ago, Airalee said:

 

 

Frankly, I could care less, if Bannon and. Musk go at it. The two of them deserve each other. Throw in Laura Loomer and a few others and you get the grand prix of bigotry.

10 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

So the left love it when Hungarians meddle in American politics, particularly when it makes the country more dangerous. But a well meaning American citizen born in South Africa who is a genius and is weighing in on how to save $$ and bring back common sense is a big no no? Sorry, your logic is deeply flawed.

You stole my thunder !

The Washington Establishment is being invaded by possible future heads of the Plant Mars, Mr. Musk.

 

Elon has a double edge sword!

one side giveth the other taketh.

Doge can’t come fast enough!

 

Him & Vivek will be exposing all the waste , fraud & abuse , especially involving

the EPA and extreme leftest organizations funding of anti American 

groups. See the receipts below:

“BREAKING NEWS: Shelley Moore Capito Directly Accuses Biden EPA Of Funding 'Anti-American' Groups”

The difference between America First

Musk and these actors on the left...

They are anti American, anti capitalist ,cultural Marxist who want to burn our

the system down!

 

6 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

 

Who is the South African?  Elon Musk is a US Citizen.

Understandably, Steve Bannon is  jealous of Musk's relationship with Trump, but  using someone's heritage to  persecute them is rather vile. Musk is no different than any other US citizen born elsewhere. Whether it was Bob Hope from England,  or Zbigniew Kazimierz Brzezinski from Poland, or Senator Ted Cruz from Canada, they are all US citizens and have every right to participate in the US political process.

 

 

 

Haha, your arrogance is showing. If Musk was not a US citizen his activities would be ILLEGAL. There is no political freedom of expression guarantee for a foreigner doing what Musk is doing. Musk disbursed US$277 million for Trump's election.

 

Federal law prohibits contributions, donations, expenditures(including independent expenditures) and disbursements solicited, directed, received or made directly or indirectly by or from foreign nationals in connection with any federal, state or local election. This prohibition includes advances of personal funds, contributions or donations made to political party committees and organizations, state or local party committees for the purchase or construction of an office building funds under 11 CFR 300.35, and contributions or disbursements to make electioneering communications.

Foreign nationals are also prohibited from, directly or indirectly, donating to an inaugural committee; and it is a violation of federal law to knowingly accept such donations from a foreign national.

 

Don't feel bad though, because Airalee wins the most ignorant  post prize of this thread (so far) to support the equally igmorant comment a bout "Hungarians". Ignorant because  photos of Alex Soros are shown. Alex Soros was born in New York City and is a US national. His mother is the noted American Historian Susan Weber, who was also born in New York City and is a US citizen.  

 

 

Frankly, I could care less, if Bannon and. Musk go at it. The two of them deserve each other. Throw in Laura Loomer and a few others and you get the grand prix of bigotry.

I know Alex Soros was born in New York. It was meant to be a tongue in cheek commentary on billionaire influence in politics.  It’s no different on either side of the political aisle.  I don’t vote myself because I don’t believe in choosing “the lesser of two evils”.  I do know one thing, however….leftists such as yourself are entirely dishonest.

 

And…fyi…the proper term is “couldn’t care less”

21 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

Alex Soros is not Hungarian. He was born in New York City and is a US national. His mother is the noted American Historian Susan Weber, who was also born in New York City and is a US citizen.  

 

He is the son and designated heir of one of the most infamous purveyors of destabilisation of all kinds throughout the world. It matters not where he was born, these people don't believe in nations and Alex has been instructed to use the 25 billion $ empire he inherited to further the One World Government his dad worked tirelessly to implement throughout his existence.

 

From 2020:

 

George Soros pledged $1 billion to fund a new university network to tackle the spread of nationalism in a speech at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, where the financier and philanthropist also condemned President Donald Trump and President Xi Jinping.

 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/daviddawkins/2020/01/24/billionaire-george-soros-pledges-1-billion-university-fund-to-fight-would-be-dictators/

35 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

 

He is the son and designated heir of one of the most infamous purveyors of destabilisation of all kinds throughout the world. It matters not where he was born, these people don't believe in nations and Alex has been instructed to use the 25 billion $ empire he inherited to further the One World Government his dad worked tirelessly to implement throughout his existence.

 

From 2020:

 

George Soros pledged $1 billion to fund a new university network to tackle the spread of nationalism in a speech at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, where the financier and philanthropist also condemned President Donald Trump and President Xi Jinping.

 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/daviddawkins/2020/01/24/billionaire-george-soros-pledges-1-billion-university-fund-to-fight-would-be-dictators/

Thanks for that brilliant summary .

 

And to think what triggered Musk to drop his liberal rhetoric & prior allegiance to join forces

with the lefts boggieman!

“The Lefts Censorship regime of Google,Facebook,MSM and old twitter. It just P’ed him off enough to invest 44Billion to stop the lefts propaganda.

The dems raised a historical  1.5 billion 

and couldn’t win one of 7 swing states states. Not one! The Toxic party got what they deserved  A Trump as Potus and the richest guy in the world hell bent on helping destroy Woke.

6 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

So long as they own it through a web of 20 LLCs the left will be cock a hoop about it, and will remove from debate anyone saying hang on a minute are we sure obvious corruption is wise at Presidential level😅

The desperate covering up of corrupt activities must be stressing the left now they lost the election.

Why would the left cover up for Trump? That's incoherent!

12 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

So the left love it when Hungarians meddle in American politics, particularly when it makes the country more dangerous. But a well meaning American citizen born in South Africa who is a genius and is weighing in on how to save $$ and bring back common sense is a big no no? Sorry, your logic is deeply flawed.

Yes he's an engineering genius, but he's also crazy and a conspiracy theorist, not appropriate.

9 hours ago, scorecard said:

Yes he's an engineering genius, but he's also crazy and a conspiracy theorist, not appropriate.

I don't think he is an engineering genius. He is good at using the abilities and skills of others. Tesla, Space X are not his engineering achievements. He  is able to herd cats, which is an admirable skill. No denying his success, but he is an emotionally volatile and unstable man as demonstrated by his failed personal relationships and family dysfunction, as well as the need for his board to ask that there be a 3rd party  presence when he  deals directly with  employees.

On 1/13/2025 at 9:41 AM, ubonr1971 said:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jan/12/steve-bannon-calls-elon-musk-racist

 

I have to agree with the above article. Why is a South African meddling in American politics. Its not his place to do so. 

He is now a us citizen no?

4 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

I don't think he is an engineering genius. He is good at using the abilities and skills of others. Tesla, Space X are not his engineering achievements. He  is able to herd cats, which is an admirable skill. No denying his success, but he is an emotionally volatile and unstable man as demonstrated by his failed personal relationships and family dysfunction, as well as the need for his board to ask that there be a 3rd party  presence when he  deals directly with  employees.

Coming from a expat retiree, what was your rocket company called? I will Google it

3 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

He is now a us citizen no?

or maybe a disguised Chinese one as it appears he may be the one Xi trusted 555

Elon Musk could acquire US operations of TikTok under new Chinese deal

 

https://www.msn.com/en-xl/news/other/elon-musk-could-acquire-us-operations-of-tiktok-under-new-chinese-deal/ar-BB1roM2c?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=LCTS&cvid=da733a1a86004762a45fec8c4a38b003&ei=44

10 minutes ago, Mavideol said:

or maybe a disguised Chinese one as it appears he may be the one Xi trusted 555

Elon Musk could acquire US operations of TikTok under new Chinese deal

 

https://www.msn.com/en-xl/news/other/elon-musk-could-acquire-us-operations-of-tiktok-under-new-chinese-deal/ar-BB1roM2c?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=LCTS&cvid=da733a1a86004762a45fec8c4a38b003&ei=44

And? The article doesn't really say much, just MSM waffle

6 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

Coming from a expat retiree, what was your rocket company called? I will Google it

 

I am not a retiree and am still gainfully employed, although I have reduced my workload. I receive compensation as a direct deposit. 😄. Governments  probably like the fact that I am still employed as they take a large part of my income.

And while not as wealthy as  Elon, I am quite comfortable.  Unlike the Russian oligarchs, I did not make it  from environmental destruction or corruption.

10 minutes ago, Mavideol said:

or maybe a disguised Chinese one as it appears he may be the one Xi trusted 555

Elon Musk could acquire US operations of TikTok under new Chinese deal

 

https://www.msn.com/en-xl/news/other/elon-musk-could-acquire-us-operations-of-tiktok-under-new-chinese-deal/ar-BB1roM2c?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=LCTS&cvid=da733a1a86004762a45fec8c4a38b003&ei=44

 

Perhaps another reason why Musk is such a staunch defender of China.

Bannon has quite the Herculean task if he wants to stop the juggernaut of bullying.

Let the catfight and hissfits  continue.

59 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

He is now a us citizen no?

 

Not only that, he's an African-American immigrant!

 

What ever happened to "diversity is our strength"?