15 hours ago, UbonEagle said:

I do recall the Mrs selling a house in regional City and she was very particular about the original land title deed (or whatever it's called here) - I thought she was being a bit paranoid but she would not hand it over until she had full confirmation the money was in her bank account - in fact I think they all went to the bank together...

Its called a chanote!    and what your Mrs did is a normal transaction, until  full confirmation the money was in the bank account you do not hand over the chanote, also both would go to the Land office to get the name change,

On 1/15/2025 at 1:15 AM, kevozman1 said:

I often wonder if these characters are just actors or guys coming over to SEA after getting an inheritance. They seem casual in throwing such large sums of money around. You need to be part of a multi-national or play golf with established business people in Thailand to put any money up or do any substantial deals. The only country in SEA I would consider buying anything bigger than a second hand motorbike or car is Singapore.. maybe Malaysia but even then probably not.

 

He could have bought a little apartment in Brussels with that 8 million baht and have around €1k  going until his account every month. And most importantly it's safe and trustworthy way of investing money. 

 

8 million, you might get a small studio in BXL, depends where, police no go zone neighborhood ?

On 1/14/2025 at 10:34 AM, webfact said:

Som’s residence in the northeastern province of Buriram

There you have it.

On 1/14/2025 at 11:45 AM, 1happykamper said:

So she is guilt but has connections so she's laughing at justice. Just another day in paradise. Put this trash in prison for 10 years 

 

The connections probably have little to do with it.  She's relaxed about it because she took land/money from a foreigner and there is little he can do about it.

You can kind of see why the guy would be so trusting.  In most Western countries, someone could very easily go to the police if someone stole from them and the police would take action, which acts as a deterrent for such crimes.

20 hours ago, Justanotherone said:

 

8 million, you might get a small studio in BXL, depends where, police no go zone neighborhood ?

Compare the murder rate in Thailand to Belgium. I used to live in some of the worst areas of East London and what I learned pretty fast is that many other regions around the world pose much more of a threat. Western Europe is not a region I am worried about, and most people are the same.

On 1/14/2025 at 3:34 AM, webfact said:

a female Thai soldier

 

I didnt know Thailand have female soldiers.

On 1/16/2025 at 10:30 AM, Woke to Sounds of Horking said:

Anything can be taken from you at any moment, on a whim, depending on how the breeze is blowing that day in the government halls.

Rubbish. That's bar stool talk. Unless your doing something illegal, no 'whim' or otherwise in government will deprive you of your property 🤣. 

There are a dozen alternatives to classic revenge. There are so many ways to go after a bad actor these days. Shame, online humiliation, direct access to family members, etc. The list is endless. The worst thing in the world anyone can do, when they have been scammed for a large amount of money, is to just let it go. It just encourages the criminal. No thanks. I would devote my life to finding him, pursue him to the ends of the earth, and make his life a living hell, all the while avoiding the legal system. 

 

There is a whole subculture in this world, who absolutely refuse to work for a living, and instead like to prey on those who are vulnerable, naive, dumb, and easy victims. It is our responsibility to be careful, prudent, willing to do some vetting, some research, some due diligence, anytime we part with cash. Especially online. Dealing with Ebay, Lazada, Amazon is one thing. You have recourse. But, dealing with Facebook vendors, Instagram, Youtube, dating sites, or any other social media, the scammers outweigh the real deals. People get taken every day. I get junk emails offering me at least $100 million a month.

 

Stay on her like white on rice. In the past I have had people who owed me money. Nearly always, I was able to collect. Rarely did I ever go to court. I kept up relentless pressure on them. I used social media, I used their relatives, their tenants, whatever angle I could find to increase the pressure, increase the hurt, the shame, the embarrassment, the guilt. It nearly always works. The last thing in the world you should do is take off the pressure. Keep on hammering her, in every way imaginable. She will likely succumb.

 

The last guy who tried to steal some money from me, when he paid me back in cash, in full, a year or so later, told me that the only reason I got my money back, is that he needed to get his life back. I hassled him, his wife, his kids, and everyone he knew! It was pure humiliation for him, and it was totally unexpected. I think he just got used to taking people for a ride, and most of them being willing to let it go. Not me. Not for a nanosecond. It became a game for me. It was almost fun, by the end. A real challenge. 

 

On 1/14/2025 at 5:28 PM, smedly said:

 

he will never see his money unless criminal charges are brought - highly unlikely so it is a civil matter, if he is prepared to spend a few million baht brining this court it will take years with next to zero chance of success 

 

never ever let a Thai person handle anything money related in your absence always do in person, this includes solicitors, in the west solicitors act under strict codes of conduct - not so in Thailand

 

This man has learned a very hard lesson

Fraud is a criminal offence, not a civil matter in this case, NZ has a squad called the serious fraud squad, the police should act if they don't a serious complaint should be laid against the police BF and the girl.

28 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

There are a dozen alternatives to classic revenge. There are so many ways to go after a bad actor these days. Shame, online humiliation, direct access to family members, etc. The list is endless. The worst thing in the world anyone can do, when they have been scammed for a large amount of money, is to just let it go. It just encourages the criminal. No thanks. I would devote my life to finding him, pursue him to the ends of the earth, and make his life a living hell, all the while avoiding the legal system. 

 

There is a whole subculture in this world, who absolutely refuse to work for a living, and instead like to prey on those who are vulnerable, naive, dumb, and easy victims. It is our responsibility to be careful, prudent, willing to do some vetting, some research, some due diligence, anytime we part with cash. Especially online. Dealing with Ebay, Lazada, Amazon is one thing. You have recourse. But, dealing with Facebook vendors, Instagram, Youtube, dating sites, or any other social media, the scammers outweigh the real deals. People get taken every day. I get junk emails offering me at least $100 million a month.

 

Stay on her like white on rice. In the past I have had people who owed me money. Nearly always, I was able to collect. Rarely did I ever go to court. I kept up relentless pressure on them. I used social media, I used their relatives, their tenants, whatever angle I could find to increase the pressure, increase the hurt, the shame, the embarrassment, the guilt. It nearly always works. The last thing in the world you should do is take off the pressure. Keep on hammering her, in every way imaginable. She will likely succumb.

 

The last guy who tried to steal some money from me, when he paid me back in cash, in full, a year or so later, told me that the only reason I got my money back, is that he needed to get his life back. I hassled him, his wife, his kids, and everyone he knew! It was pure humiliation for him, and it was totally unexpected. I think he just got used to taking people for a ride, and most of them being willing to let it go. Not me. Not for a nanosecond. It became a game for me. It was almost fun, by the end. A real challenge. 

 

I would presume you were not dealing with Thai as borrowers, as its a dangerous game to pursue and make Thais lose face

22 minutes ago, kiwikeith said:

Fraud is a criminal offence, not a civil matter in this case, NZ has a squad called the serious fraud squad, the police should act if they don't a serious complaint should be laid against the police BF and the girl.

western thinking, all of what you said is correct but we are in Thailand 

57 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

There are a dozen alternatives to classic revenge. There are so many ways to go after a bad actor these days. Shame, online humiliation, direct access to family members, etc. The list is endless. The worst thing in the world anyone can do, when they have been scammed for a large amount of money, is to just let it go. It just encourages the criminal. No thanks. I would devote my life to finding him, pursue him to the ends of the earth, and make his life a living hell, all the while avoiding the legal system. 

 

There is a whole subculture in this world, who absolutely refuse to work for a living, and instead like to prey on those who are vulnerable, naive, dumb, and easy victims. It is our responsibility to be careful, prudent, willing to do some vetting, some research, some due diligence, anytime we part with cash. Especially online. Dealing with Ebay, Lazada, Amazon is one thing. You have recourse. But, dealing with Facebook vendors, Instagram, Youtube, dating sites, or any other social media, the scammers outweigh the real deals. People get taken every day. I get junk emails offering me at least $100 million a month.

 

Stay on her like white on rice. In the past I have had people who owed me money. Nearly always, I was able to collect. Rarely did I ever go to court. I kept up relentless pressure on them. I used social media, I used their relatives, their tenants, whatever angle I could find to increase the pressure, increase the hurt, the shame, the embarrassment, the guilt. It nearly always works. The last thing in the world you should do is take off the pressure. Keep on hammering her, in every way imaginable. She will likely succumb.

 

The last guy who tried to steal some money from me, when he paid me back in cash, in full, a year or so later, told me that the only reason I got my money back, is that he needed to get his life back. I hassled him, his wife, his kids, and everyone he knew! It was pure humiliation for him, and it was totally unexpected. I think he just got used to taking people for a ride, and most of them being willing to let it go. Not me. Not for a nanosecond. It became a game for me. It was almost fun, by the end. A real challenge. 

 

 

keyboard warriors at best

 

defamation laws, life being cheap here...

 

so how much did you lend ?

 

john wick wannabe...

On 1/14/2025 at 11:28 AM, smedly said:

 

he will never see his money unless criminal charges are brought - highly unlikely so it is a civil matter, if he is prepared to spend a few million baht brining this court it will take years with next to zero chance of success 

 

never ever let a Thai person handle anything money related in your absence always do in person, this includes solicitors, in the west solicitors act under strict codes of conduct - not so in Thailand

 

This man has learned a very hard lesson

Thailand's culture (greed).ask any rich politicians 

Absolutely unbelievable story. Why did he not hire a Lawyer for the sale ?

Anyway having said that Never ever trust Thai people with agreements ....even the Lawyers are suspect ...

 

Golden Rule, never let a Chanote Deed out of your site. 

4 hours ago, kiwikeith said:

I would presume you were not dealing with Thai as borrowers, as its a dangerous game to pursue and make Thais lose face

Yet it is absolutely necessary sometimes, leaving it to the legal system means years of aggravation and untold expenses paid to lawyers who will likely not bring you satisfaction.

 

So what other option do you have other than just sucking it up and laying down like a sickly dog? Sometimes life requires risks. 

I'm entertained that some of you believe she has contacts with the police. It's never occurred to you that she is lying. 

 

Also, I see some of you are back on the Thai face drivel. What do you think Thais would do in this situation? 

 

Genuine question, looking forward to your answers. 

 

...........................................

 

Oh, and the woman I mentioned earlier serving 12 years for scamming? She said she had police contacts.  

Hope she was worth it. What a moron he is.

On 1/14/2025 at 4:02 PM, cheerz said:

Money's gone 100%, instead of chasing the money, cheaper to get someone to collect the debt ... Money or the bag..

 In that picture Som looked a bit thin I  think she needs a lead sandwich.