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Is the harsh criticisms of Sir Keir Starmer fair and justified

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On 1/15/2025 at 2:39 AM, JonnyF said:

The criticism has been way too soft IMO.

 

Too many failures to list and it's only been 6 months. 

 

I suspect he has AntiSocial Personality Disorder. He displays all the signs of a sociopath. 

Anti-social personality disorder - good one. Can a forum have it, or just people?

https://www.nhs.uk/mental-health/conditions/antisocial-personality-disorder/

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    Is the harsh criticisms of Sir Keir Starmer fair and justified   Yes. The whole premise of his platform was that he was more honest, untouched by sleaze, straightforward, dependable, trustwo

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    Nothing unusual; just politics.  Boris Johnson, Liz Truss and Rishi got much the same.  Keir will survive.

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3 minutes ago, spot said:

 I was replying to this "where the police basically walked away" etc, and then you sent a link?

 

Yeah.  The link says the police ran away.

On 1/14/2025 at 3:20 PM, brewsterbudgen said:

Nothing unusual; just politics.  Boris Johnson, Liz Truss and Rishi got much the same.  Keir will survive.

Boris was able to go out and meet the public on his bike rides and walk about during hid PMship, Starmer cannot do that after just 6 months, saw I TikTok yesterday, he had a very aggressive crowd booing and heckling him, he looked terrified and shocked

 

Starmer can not go out in general public now, probably why he keeps doing trips abroad

 

 

Yes Keir is so afraid of offending anyone he will let rapists and terrorists have free reign.

8 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

 

Yeah.  The link says the police ran away.

I news .."reported that police were 'outnumbered' and 'ran away' from the riot and disorder." 

The key word here is 'outnumbered' so your original claim didn't have context.

The police didn't have the numbers at the time, so backed off.

 

Also, your original claim suggested that the Southport rioters were dealt with harder than the example used in your link.  The truth is that people were jailed on both sides, which you didn't mention. 

 

2 hours ago, spot said:

Reeves' Marxist leanings? You read Marx right

A Marxist is a person who follows the beliefs of Marx.

1 minute ago, Thingamabob said:

A Marxist is a person who follows the beliefs of Marx.

 

A Marxist....is a person who is not a dyed in the wool MAGA fan

2 hours ago, spot said:

I news .."reported that police were 'outnumbered' and 'ran away' from the riot and disorder." 

The key word here is 'outnumbered' so your original claim didn't have context.

The police didn't have the numbers at the time, so backed off.

 

They ran off and left them to it.  They just left them to riot.  This rarely happens.  Possibly never.

 

They could have gone back in greater numbers, but they clearly decided to leave them to it.

 

In the non-immigrant riots, they did not run off and leave them to it.

 

They were clearly treated in different ways.

1 hour ago, Thingamabob said:

A Marxist is a person who follows the beliefs of Marx.

That wasn't my question.

 

And how is Reeves a Marxist - example?

On 1/19/2025 at 9:15 AM, John Drake said:

Starmer is safe. The UK seems a placid country to me. The English in particular exported all their adventurers and dissidents to America. They sent the people violent enough to defend their interests to Australia. And they sent their most entrepreneurial risk takers to India.

Could be so, except that you're a couple of hundred years behind on this one.

14 hours ago, josephbloggs said:


You know you are supposed to provide links when you make claims.

Yours are nonsense and completely false. So please provide your sources, this will be quite amusing. Links please.

Nonsense or truth; doesn't matter when you're happy being ignorant.

2 hours ago, Will B Good said:

 

A Marxist....is a person who is not a dyed in the wool MAGA fan

Seems so. 

 

 

2 minutes ago, spot said:

Nonsense or truth; doesn't matter when you're happy being ignorant.


As expected you have nothing to back up your claims.

2 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:


As expected you have nothing to back up your claims.

I think you've got me mixed up with the poster. I was actually agreeing with you 😄

2 minutes ago, spot said:

I think you've got me mixed up with the poster. I was actually agreeing with you 😄


Ah, sorry, you're right. I assumed you were the poster, my mistake.

1 hour ago, BangkokReady said:

 

They ran off and left them to it.  They just left them to riot.  This rarely happens.  Possibly never.

 

They could have gone back in greater numbers, but they clearly decided to leave them to it.

 

In the non-immigrant riots, they did not run off and leave them to it.

 

They were clearly treated in different ways.

 

So, if there's a 'Two Tier' thing, whose fault is it?

 

 

 

 

10 hours ago, spot said:

That wasn't my question.

 

And how is Reeves a Marxist - example?

Her, and Starmer's, attendance at communist seminars in Europe over many years.

1 hour ago, Thingamabob said:

Her, and Starmer's, attendance at communist seminars in Europe over many years.

 

Starmer and Reeves commies?  They're not even socialists!  Labour is just the Tories-lite, just like Blair/Brown.  Now if Corbyn had been elected we might have seen a left- agenda. 

8 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

 

Starmer and Reeves commies?  They're not even socialists!  Labour is just the Tories-lite, just like Blair/Brown.  Now if Corbyn had been elected we might have seen a left- agenda. 

Wrong.

8 hours ago, Thingamabob said:

Wrong.

 

 

Point me to a 'commie' policy labour (Starmer and Reeves) have put forward?

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