Pete Hegseth Pledges to Restore Warrior Ethos in U.S. Military

[Yellowtail]

2 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

To those who have managed workplaces and had troublesome personnel, this man is a drunk, sex pest , untrustworthy and  given to  delusions of grandeur.  He will at some point screw up and then attempt to cover up the mess. This man isn't fit to be a clerk for secretaries like Jimmy Forrestal, or George Marshall, or Bill Perry or Bill Cohen.

Evidence? 

2 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

 

The characterization of senior officers at the deaprtment of defense as woke liberals is so far off the mark as to be an insult. The US military has some of the best educated and trained  leadership and command officers in the world. Many if not most  of the senior command have had combat experience. Multiple false claims about DEI in the military have been made. The reality is that the military is facing a shortage of educated, qualified personnel. Hegseth won't change that. On the contrary, he may cause a large number of personnel to leave .

Great, let them go. They need to cut staff. 

2 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

 

The reason women are serving is because they fill an important gap in the personnel needs. Without women in their roles, the US would have  16% shortage in available personnel. The warrior mentality is what causes  multi million dollar losses of aircraft, and unnecessary actions.  This job requires a person who is able to manage a multi billion dollar multi national operation.

 

 

As he explained, he just thinks everyone should have to meet the same standards, and that standards should not be lowered to promote DEI. 

 

Do you not think everyone should have to meet the same standards?

 

Poor lefty, he's going to be confirmed. You no doubt think Tim Walz would have been a better choice, huh? 

 

Hey, how great was Pam Bondi? 

 

So what do you think about Vance in '28?

 

 

[Yagoda]

1 hour ago, novacova said:

Infamous last words of a recipient of a Darwin Award

Like putting a sign that says "Gun Free Zone" on your property, possibly one of the dumbest things a human can do.

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[Will B Good]

48 minutes ago, Gsxrnz said:

I actually watched the hearing. Hegseth won by a knockout. 

 

 

So did I. He was an embarrassment to the whole US nation.

 

Obviously couldn’t run a bath, let alone the US military…..or is miltary? Never sure with American spuling.

[HappyExpat57]

1 minute ago, Will B Good said:

 

 

So did I. He was an embarrassment to the whole US nation.

 

Obviously couldn’t run a bath, let alone the US military…..or is miltary? Never sure with American spuling.

But his HAIR looked great, didn't it?

[Emdog]

57 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

The DEI experiment is dead. Time to go back to meritocracy. 

That sort of statement shows your great disconnect from reality. "Time to go back to meritocracy" Warrior ethos may have once included drunken rape and pillaging... Your man Pete ticked rape and drunk... unsure about pillage

Merit? Largest organization he ran had perhaps 50 employees... US military has around 3 million. And Pete ran the budget into the ground for both organizations he oversaw.

Secretary of Defense can't be a drunk. Reports from his employees say he was often drunk on the job. Lame Republicans try to say "many senators have been drunk at work too"... but they aren't part of nuke chain of command among other things. Somehow saying "we're as awful as he is" is faint praise.

So tell me, just what are his merits other than being a Fox weekend post and Trump ass kisser?

[Will B Good]

Just now, HappyExpat57 said:

But his HAIR looked great, didn't it?

 

Must have taken 15 to 20 mins, plus 1/2 litre of something to achieve that.

 

Bet it doesn’t look anything like that after a typical night out for him.

[johnnybangkok]

2 hours ago, Yagoda said:

Got it. Hes led men in combat while you joust on message boards. Hes more qualified to do anything than 99% of the folks in this world. Bet he has more degrees and is a better shot than you.

 

Moral bankruptcy? Does that include your heroes Adam "Censured Liar" Schiff, Elizabeth "Pocahontas" Warren, Ilhan "Incestuous Terrorist" Omar, Bill "Rapist if you consider the power imbalance" Clinton, Hillary "Bleach Bit" Clinton, "Barack "Murder Americans" Obama, Joe "Big Guy" Biden, and Richard "Stolen Valour" Blumenthal?

There's whataboutism and there's Yagoda whataboutism - in a league of it's own.

 

And he's not more qualified than 99% of the folks in the world as qualifications for this role SHOULD be as demanding as the office itself. So lets compare him to the current defence secretary Lloyd James Austin III - 'Before retiring from the military in 2016, Austin served as the 12th commander of United States Central Command (CENTCOM). Prior to that he served as the 33rd vice chief of staff of the Army from January 2012 to March 2013, and as commander of United States Forces – Iraq from September 2010 to December 2011. He is the first African American to hold each of these positions. After retiring from the armed services, Austin joined the boards of Raytheon Technologies, Nucor, Tenet Healthcare, and Auburn University. Austin holds the unique distinction of having commanded in combat in Iraq and Afghanistan at the one-, two-, three- and four-star levels, and was the first African American to command a division, corps, and field army in combat. He is a recipient of the Silver Star, the nation's third highest award for valor, for his actions during the Iraq invasion, as well as five Defense Distinguished Service Medals.'   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Secretary_of_Defense

 

Better than this?

[WDSmart]

38 minutes ago, phetphet said:

You may say shameful remnant, but I would suggest a necessity. Even more so nowadays.

 

The woke chaining themselves to fences won't deter any foe in any  future conflict, and a warrior ethos is what is required in such circumstances

The remedy for foes is to wake them up, not try to deter them with violence. Doing that just prolongs and maybe even escalates the conflict. 

[spidermike007]

1 hour ago, Yagoda said:

Do you dispute any of them?  Is Adam Schiff in fact a liar censured by the House? Did Bill get sucked off by a starry eyed intern in the Oval Office? OK for him to exercise such a power imbalance? Is that worse than some drunken post combat romp by Hegseth?

 

Do you deny that Hillary took Bleach bit to her surreptitious server? Do you deny that Blumenthal lied about his service? You defended Tim Waltz as being worthy of being VP too.

 

Im sure your obsession forces you to post silly tripe, but try not to be such a blatant hypocrite.

A lot of these people that you mentioned have great flaws, have made huge mistakes, and have a lot to answer for.

 

However the same can be said of Trump and nearly all of his nominee pics. I don't see you applying names to them, your juvenile partisan name calling is just pure ridiculousness, and the act of a relatively undeveloped emotional nature, and a hateful heart. 

[Jingthing]

He's completely unqualified.

Defense secretary is way too Important a role for such a Fox News talking head bozo. Maybe Ambassador to Slovénia. At least Trump picked someone credible for Secretary of State with Rubio. Most of his picks are more fit for dark satire than a presidential administration. 

[spidermike007]

2 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

He's completely unqualified.

Defense secretary is way too Important a role for such a Fox News talking head bozo. Maybe Ambassador to Slovénia. At least Trump picked someone credible for Secretary of State with Rubio. Most of his picks are more fit for dark satire than a presidential administration. 

I think the administrator of a statewide Boy Scout organization might be about the extent of his skill set. 

 

Trump has an absolutely terrible habit of picking from the bottom of the barrel, and selecting people that are spectacularly devoid of talent and appropriate experience for the important positions he appoints them for. And it is entirely partisan and it is entirely based on fealty to his fragile ego. This of course is one of the reasons why his last Administration was such a failure. 

[dinsdale]

22 minutes ago, Emdog said:

That sort of statement shows your great disconnect from reality.

This is reality. I don't think it's me that has the problem. I said DEI is dead here's something to support my comment.

Meta is ending its diversity, equity and inclusion programs, known as DEI, the company said Friday, becoming the latest company to pull back from such practices in the wake of pressure from conservative critics and customers.

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/01/10/tech/meta-ends-dei-programs/index.html

[frank83628]

3 hours ago, HappyExpat57 said:

This is the FIRST time in the history of US politics that a secretary of defense has been politicised. In the past, the selection was based on the virtue of the candidate. This bozo is in NO way qualified to run the most powerful military in the world. The cowardice of the Republicans is on full display. When a billionaire can threaten them that they better vote the way he wants under threat of being "primaried," he's essentially purchased this seat.

 

People are being lead to the slaughter and are either unaware or just don't care.

 

 

 

 

Well previously you've had generals with a whole chest full of medals in charge, yet the US hasn't won a war since climing the glory of WW2

[metisdead]

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[placnx]

2 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

This is a highly unqualified man, morally bankrupt man, and another bottom of the barrel pic by Trump. He has never led a large organization and he may be qualified to lead a Boy Scout chapter of a large County but not the Department of Defense, which has 3 million employees. 

Hegseth advocated the construction of the Third Temple on the Temple Mount in Jerusalem during Trump 1.0. He said that 1917 was a miracle, 1948 was a miracle, 1967 was a miracle, 2017 was a miracle. Video available here:

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/new-us-defence-secretary-called-building-third-temple-jerusalem

2017: the Balfour Declaration, the UK promise for a Jewish state in Palestine;

1948: creation of Israel

1967: the war that seized East Jerusalem

2017: the US recognition of Jerusalem as Israel's capital.

 

The Third Temple is a goal of the extreme right in Israel and far right Evangelicals in the US who see it as part of the coming of the Messiah heralding the end of the world.

[Yellowtail]

5 minutes ago, placnx said:

Hegseth advocated the construction of the Third Temple on the Temple Mount in Jerusalem during Trump 1.0. He said that 1917 was a miracle, 1948 was a miracle, 1967 was a miracle, 2017 was a miracle. Video available here:

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/new-us-defence-secretary-called-building-third-temple-jerusalem

2017: the Balfour Declaration, the UK promise for a Jewish state in Palestine;

1948: creation of Israel

1967: the war that seized East Jerusalem

2017: the US recognition of Jerusalem as Israel's capital.

 

The Third Temple is a goal of the extreme right in Israel and far right Evangelicals in the US who see it as part of the coming of the Messiah heralding the end of the world.

You know he's getting conformed, yes? 

 

Biden and Hariss and almost all elected leftists claim to be Christians, does that not mean they believe in miracles? 

 

Open your heart and let a little loved in brother, it won't hurt you.  

[thaibeachlovers]

7 hours ago, soalbundy said:

Well he's right about the 'wokeness aspect but warrior ethos ? Somewhat of a romantic statement for what are basically hired guns.

As someone that was actually in the military, there were plenty that considered themselves to be "warriors".

[WDSmart]

4 hours ago, novacova said:

WDSmart said:

I'll take "wokeness" over a "warrior ethos" everywhere. 

Or, to put it another way...
 

[candide]

4 hours ago, dinsdale said:

The DEI experiment is dead. Time to go back to meritocracy. 

And the choice of Hegseth is a good illustration of "back to meritocracy"! 

[SunnyinBangrak]

3 cheers for the Trump Hegseth team. Hamas caved like the cowards they are when faced with a carrot and stick scenario. Democrats carrot and carrot failed of course.

Trump to Hamas release those hostages before I take office, or else. Hamas - yes Sir we'll get right on it, please dont hurt us Sir. On behalf of all forumers. Thank you Donald J Trump! 

[Yellowtail]

1 minute ago, candide said:

And the choice of Hegseth is a good illustration of "back to meritocracy"! 

As compared to who? 

[placnx]

3 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

I think the administrator of a statewide Boy Scout organization might be about the extent of his skill set. 

 

Trump has an absolutely terrible habit of picking from the bottom of the barrel, and selecting people that are spectacularly devoid of talent and appropriate experience for the important positions he appoints them for. And it is entirely partisan and it is entirely based on fealty to his fragile ego. This of course is one of the reasons why his last Administration was such a failure. 

Drunk on the job is not a good example to set to the Boy Scouts, nor is violence against women.

[Keep Right]

Good for Pete as the U.S. military is full of losers who are unable to function in a normal society. I do not hold out much hope as there is no incentive other than free college and some gibes. Today's Army is a joke.

[Yellowtail]

4 minutes ago, placnx said:

Drunk on the job is not a good example to set to the Boy Scouts, nor is violence against women.

Both unsubstantiated allegations. 

 

The left makes up allegations and then tries to use them to disqualify someone. 

 

He will be confirmed, poor lefty. 

 

How about Pam Bondi, she was great, huh? 

 

 

[Yellowtail]

1 minute ago, Keep Right said:

Good for Pete as the U.S. military is full of losers who are unable to function in a normal society. I do not hold out much hope as there is no incentive other than free college and some gibes. Today's Army is a joke.

Not for long. 

[sgtsabai]

Hegseth is unfit to be the dogcatcher in a one dog town. He got his start as a Koch brothers lackey in the anti-Veteran "Concerned Veterans of America" (CVA) formed by the Koch brothers to destroy and privatize our VA. He is a white nationalist christian and has the tattoos to prove plus hiding his past behind the "jesus and my wife" card. He cannot even name one member of ASEAN. He is incompetent as are all the other fascist nominees for positions. His only qualification for anything is bending the knee and kissing the ..... of the incoming wanna' be dictator.  

[Yellowtail]

3 minutes ago, sgtsabai said:

Hegseth is unfit to be the dogcatcher in a one dog town. He got his start as a Koch brothers lackey in the anti-Veteran "Concerned Veterans of America" (CVA) formed by the Koch brothers to destroy and privatize our VA. He is a white nationalist christian and has the tattoos to prove plus hiding his past behind the "jesus and my wife" card. He cannot even name one member of ASEAN. He is incompetent as are all the other fascist nominees for positions. His only qualification for anything is bending the knee and kissing the ..... of the incoming wanna' be dictator.  

Well, he's going to be confirmed, as all the fascist nominees. Poor lefty. 

[Yellowtail]

4 minutes ago, sgtsabai said:

Hegseth is unfit to be the dogcatcher in a one dog town. He got his start as a Koch brothers lackey in the anti-Veteran "Concerned Veterans of America" (CVA) formed by the Koch brothers to destroy and privatize our VA. He is a white nationalist christian and has the tattoos to prove plus hiding his past behind the "jesus and my wife" card. He cannot even name one member of ASEAN. He is incompetent as are all the other fascist nominees for positions. His only qualification for anything is bending the knee and kissing the ..... of the incoming wanna' be dictator.  

Wait, what? I thought you said that if he was elected, he was going to be a dictator, so now he's just a wanna-be dictator? 

[placnx]

14 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

3 cheers for the Trump Hegseth team. Hamas caved like the cowards they are when faced with a carrot and stick scenario. Democrats carrot and carrot failed of course.

Trump to Hamas release those hostages before I take office, or else. Hamas - yes Sir we'll get right on it, please dont hurt us Sir. On behalf of all forumers. Thank you Donald J Trump! 

Democratic presidents were in charge when the Hegseth "miracles" took place (except 2017): 1917 - Wilson, 1948 - Truman, 1967 - Johnson.

 

To that I would add 1979 - Carter (an Evangelical), who deleted text from the treaty between Israel and Egypt which referred to the principle of non-acquisition of territory by force, so that Israel's taking of territory from Egypt, Syria, and the then Jordan West Bank would have been acknowledged as contrary to international law; and 2000 -  Clinton, who tried to force Arafat to accept a "Swiss cheese" statelet without sovereignty. We can now see how things are going for the Palestinians in the West Bank - economic strangulation and creeping annexation.

 

It's no wonder that some Muslim voters prefer Republicans, and, after the Biden performance, even Trump despite the record of his previous time as president.