A death sentence for some

[Jingthing]

Sure, the U.S. can self isolate and withdraw from doing great PR soft power projects globally. 

The world will notice and the vacuum will be filled by China and others.

Maga fools only think about short term transactional "wins" totally ignoring policies that have helped the American brand massively in the past.

Make America Stupid and Petty Again more like. 

[0ffshore360]

5 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Yes they can and how did their mothers get it? I understand that sometimes they get it from bad husbands that have unprotected sex with prostitutes, and in that case the "mothers" should have thought about birth control.

 

HIV is not transmitted without fluid exchange and as such is avoidable.

Not fluids ! If so  kissing would be a major issue.

Predominant cause of transmission is via blood interchange.

Work out in your head what that involves having claimed  "medical nursing" experience.

[Hummin]

1 hour ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Then get YOUR Country try to send aid money abroad . 

The USA has a huge debt that it needs to service

your country have dept because of bilateral deals?

 

Well, tax payers pay, your company's make money for their shareholders. 

 

 

Norway gives more foreign aid per capita than any other OECD country. In 2023, Norwegians gave $1,160 in foreign aid — more than twice the amount contributed by people in other large Western countries.

 

https://ourworldindata.org/data-insights/norway-gives-more-foreign-aid-per-capita-than-any-other-oecd-country

[Patong2021]

9 hours ago, NoDisplayName said:

 

Not only is there a genocide, but deluded supporters are permitted to deny it publicly.

 

Calling the deaths of Hamas and other Islamic militia members  a genocide is intentionally  false. They were killed while engaged in an act of war.

 

Calling the deaths of people acting as irregular military personnel carrying out the activities of command and control, logistics, communications, intelligence gathering, and sabotage a genocide is intentionally false. The Islamic militias use "civilians" for these activities. This includes persons aged as young as 8 years old. 

 

Calling the deaths of the family members and others who were incidental casualties when a missile firing site, or munitions depot, or command and control center was neutralized is intentionally false. The military activities were intentionally placed in these locations and the people were intentionally located there to act as human shields.

 

The use of ambulances and UN designated vehicles to transport military personnel and ordinance, has resulted in the their being neutralized. Calling the resulting casualties  genocide is intentionally false.

 

Calling the incidental human casualties that have arisen when Gazan military targets hidden amongst schools, residential buildings  and medical facilities have been neutralized is intentionally false. The casualties while sometimes unfortunate, is a direct result of the  Gazan intent to create as many incidental casualties for propaganda purposes.

 

There is a reason why so many of the neighboring arab nations didn't really get as angry as expected. They know what they are dealing with. After all, the Hamas, Islamic Jihad and the o12 other militant groups  have all engaged in acts of violence against other arab nations.  

 

Out of curiousity, why are you not as concerned with the  Syrian  mass murders, you know; 14 million refugees, 600,000 deadm the Assad torture prisons, the use of chemical weapons etc.? Why no concern for the genocide in Darfur? What makes the Gazans more worthy of concern?

[NoDisplayName]

13 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

What makes the Gazans more worthy of concern?

 

My tax dollars are paying for the bombs to conduct the genocide.

My tax dollars are paying for military intel and satellite mapping to help locate hospitals and schools targeted for destruction.

My country's UN representative is vetoing any resolution that questions the right of the nazi apartheid regime to ethnically cleanse.

My country's injustice department is indicting ICC judges, and the treasony department applying sanctions, to any who dare to stand up to ethnic cleansing and genocide.

[Will B Good]

19 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

What makes the Gazans more worthy of concern?

 

They are just as much worthy of concern as the others you mention.......they are human beings for God's (which ever one) sake.

[Nick Carter icp]

7 minutes ago, NoDisplayName said:

 

My tax dollars are paying for the bombs to conduct the genocide.

My tax dollars are paying for military intel and satellite mapping to help locate hospitals and schools targeted for destruction.

My country's UN representative is vetoing any resolution that questions the right of the nazi apartheid regime to ethnically cleanse.

My country's injustice department is indicting ICC judges, and the treasony department applying sanctions, to any who dare to stand up to ethnic cleansing and genocide.

 

   But its better than wasting the money on buying condoms for Africans 

[Evil Penevil]

21 hours ago, NoDisplayName said:

 

Sure, but he made up for it by resuming the delivery of 2000-lb bombs to complete the genocide of gaza.

 

Priorities.

 

There's no genocide in Gaza, but I regard the 2000-lb bombs and other U.S.-supplied weapons used by the IDF against Hamas to be the best possible use of my tax dollars. The fewer terrorists there are in the world, the better off we all are.

[bannork]

Myanmar refugees face sudden discharge from Thai hospitals shuttered by US aid freeze | Reuters https://search.app/iCe7G7FByRSNo2Xs9

 

[Patong2021]

3 hours ago, NoDisplayName said:

 

My tax dollars are paying for the bombs to conduct the genocide.

My tax dollars are paying for military intel and satellite mapping to help locate hospitals and schools targeted for destruction.

My country's UN representative is vetoing any resolution that questions the right of the nazi apartheid regime to ethnically cleanse.

My country's injustice department is indicting ICC judges, and the treasony department applying sanctions, to any who dare to stand up to ethnic cleansing and genocide.

 

Unless you are in the top 10% income tier, your tax dollars most likely do not cover the cost of services and benefits that you currently receive from the US government. The reality is that 80% of US taxpayers receive more from the federal government than they contribute. Of the remaining 20%, only half of them, literally 10% of the US taxpayer population pay more than they receive. It is not only tiresome to hear these self aggrandizing claims of "my tax dollars being misspent" but  obnoxiously arrogant. The likely reality is that you are being supported by a small number if US taxpayers. 

 

US tax dollars do not  pay for military intelligence or satellite mapping to help locate hospitals targeted for destruction. Israel has its own satellites and aerial reconnaissance capability. On the contrary, the USA uses Israeli technology. In any case a hospital or a school used for military purposes becomes a legitimate military target. 

 

There is no apartheid regime in Israel, except in the  Arab controlled PLA and Hamas territories, where the Arabs forbid Israelis and jews. 

 

The US Treasury sanctions have been applied to Syria and Iran. According to you they stand up to ethnic cleansing and genocide, when in fact they are the perpatrators. What did you call Assad's torture prisons, holiday  camps or educational facilities?

 

Spewing unsubstantiated claims isn't going to convince rational people.  Why not just have the  courage to be honest and   just say what you really want to say? You hate Israel and/or jews. You want Israel destroyed. If you started out with some honesty first, you would have some credibility.

 

3 hours ago, Will B Good said:

They are just as much worthy of concern as the others you mention.......they are human beings for God's (which ever one) sake.

Ok. Why then  do one of the people going on and on  about the  plight of the Gazans, never ever have any concern for the people of Darfur, or Yemen or Syria? 10,000 Yazidis were slaughtered by by Islamic ISIL and not a word of protest from these people. There is no consistency in their claims.

[Patong2021]

6 hours ago, Hummin said:

your country have dept because of bilateral deals?

 

Well, tax payers pay, your company's make money for their shareholders. 

 

 

Norway gives more foreign aid per capita than any other OECD country. In 2023, Norwegians gave $1,160 in foreign aid — more than twice the amount contributed by people in other large Western countries.

 

https://ourworldindata.org/data-insights/norway-gives-more-foreign-aid-per-capita-than-any-other-oecd-country

 

 

Using a per capita format for a country with a 5.5 million population size exaggerates and inflates the Norwegian contribution. It may be factually accurate, but it is misleading and inappropriate for a comparison of this kind.

 

Norway's funds hardly make a dent in the  damage that Norway has inflicted on others.

Norway earns in excess of $US170 billion from its  carbon generating, polluting oil sector. As we all know,  the carbon byproduct is a contributor to global climate changes. Those climate changes  have resulted in  weather catastrophes around the world, including droughts in Africa which have resulted in disease epidemics and famine . It has also resulted in rising sea levels which will harm vulnerable nations who can least afford the impact.   The day Norway covers the cost of damage done to others, then you can sing the praises of Norway.

[Patong2021]

3 hours ago, bannork said:

Myanmar refugees face sudden discharge from Thai hospitals shuttered by US aid freeze | Reuters https://search.app/iCe7G7FByRSNo2Xs9

 

 

Why not ask the Thais why they are discharging the patients? Where is the compassion? 

[bannork]

4 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

 

The numbers you have provided are most likely from Hamas. 

Yes women and children have died. That's what happens when women and children are actively involved in a war. It is no secret that Hamas and other militant groups use both women and children for military purposes. They are intentionally  placed in harms way by Arab militants so that they can become martyrs. They are worth more for propaganda purposes dead, than alive. What kind of  culture does that?

 

They are found in the command and control centers,  working logistics, gathering intelligence, operating as  couriers, and in many cases as active military personnel.

 

https://cufi.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/Hamas-continues-recruiting-child-soldiers.jpg

When you put on a military uniform and engage in hostile military actions, no matter the age or gender, you become a legitimate military target.

 

 

The figures quoted come from Hamas because Israel refuses to allow any foreign journalist into Gaza unless embedded with the IDF.

So we have no idea how many Gaza civilians were/are working for Hamas. 

It's so easy for Israel to claim all the dead were Hamas operatives or living in a building operated by Hamas.

The destruction of hospitals, water supplies, nearly every building standing in northern Gaza, even fields used for agriculture, is a clear indication Israel is hell bent on making life impossible for Gaza citizens, a sickening crime in my view.

 

[bannork]

26 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

 

Why not ask the Thais why they are discharging the patients? Where is the compassion? 

Thai officials have transported the sickest patients to other facilities.

However, The International Rescue Committee (IRC), which funds the clinics with U.S. support, told the facilities to shut by Friday, Jan. 31, according to a local official and two camp committee members  https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/myanmar-refugees-face-sudden-discharge-thai-hospitals-shuttered-by-us-aid-freeze-2025-01-29/

[Patong2021]

8 minutes ago, bannork said:

The figures quoted come from Hamas because Israel refuses to allow any foreign journalist into Gaza unless embedded with the IDF.

So we have no idea how many Gaza civilians were/are working for Hamas. 

It's so easy for Israel to claim all the dead were Hamas operatives or living in a building operated by Hamas.

The destruction of hospitals, water supplies, nearly every building standing in northern Gaza, even fields used for agriculture, is a clear indication Israel is hell bent on making life impossible for Gaza citizens, a sickening crime in my view.

 

 

What do you expect when  the locations are used for military purposes?

[bannork]

Just now, Patong2021 said:

 

What do you expect when  the locations are used for military purposes?

That's what Israel claims every time a building is flattened with innocent civilians dying, but Israel refuses to let independent journalists verify their claims.

I don't believe the IDF.

[Nick Carter icp]

39 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

 

Ok. Why then  do one of the people going on and on  about the  plight of the Gazans, never ever have any concern for the people of Darfur, or Yemen or Syria? 10,000 Yazidis were slaughtered by by Islamic ISIL and not a word of protest from these people. There is no consistency in their claims.

 

  And not concerned about the real genocide in Myanmar where Muslims have been removed from their land and chased to Bangladesh in their 100's of thousands or the huge casualties in Myanmar in the civil war there  .

   They only mention it to attack the USA when the USA withdraws funds from the WHO

[Hawaiian]

25 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

  And not concerned about the real genocide in Myanmar where Muslims have been removed from their land and chased to Bangladesh in their 100's of thousands or the huge casualties in Myanmar in the civil war there  .

   They only mention it to attack the USA when the USA withdraws funds from the WHO

Lot of hypocrisy going around.

[bannork]

4 minutes ago, Hawaiian said:

Lot of hypocrisy going around.

The massacres of the Rohingya, the mass killings of Myanmar civilians by its own junta, are conveniently ignored by the Thais, indifferent to the suffering next door. But this thread is about Trump's abrupt cessation of aid programmes.

I'll start two threads tomorrow about the Myanmar and Sudanese civil wars, but is there any interest?

[Hawaiian]

45 minutes ago, bannork said:

The massacres of the Rohingya, the mass killings of Myanmar civilians by its own junta, are conveniently ignored by the Thais, indifferent to the suffering next door. But this thread is about Trump's abrupt cessation of aid programmes.

I'll start two threads tomorrow about the Myanmar and Sudanese civil wars, but is there any interest?

Won't know unless you do.  I am more familiar with the Rohingyas which centers around religious persecution.

[Hummin]

4 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

 

 

Using a per capita format for a country with a 5.5 million population size exaggerates and inflates the Norwegian contribution. It may be factually accurate, but it is misleading and inappropriate for a comparison of this kind.

 

Norway's funds hardly make a dent in the  damage that Norway has inflicted on others.

Norway earns in excess of $US170 billion from its  carbon generating, polluting oil sector. As we all know,  the carbon byproduct is a contributor to global climate changes. Those climate changes  have resulted in  weather catastrophes around the world, including droughts in Africa which have resulted in disease epidemics and famine . It has also resulted in rising sea levels which will harm vulnerable nations who can least afford the impact.   The day Norway covers the cost of damage done to others, then you can sing the praises of Norway.

First do yourself an favor, know what numbers we are talking about here, when it comes to barrels produces by day, total barrels produces total in history, and total consumed and burned. 

 

Ridiculous attempt there, but nice try

 

 

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_oil_consumption

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_oil_consumption

[sungod]

15 hours ago, Lacessit said:

They won't even give their women the vote, what makes you think they would give money to people that used to be part of their flourishing slave trade?

I dont, that's the point. If the Arabs dont take care of their own, then why should we?

[Nick Carter icp]

3 hours ago, bannork said:

The massacres of the Rohingya, the mass killings of Myanmar civilians by its own junta, are conveniently ignored by the Thais, indifferent to the suffering next door. But this thread is about Trump's abrupt cessation of aid programmes.

I'll start two threads tomorrow about the Myanmar and Sudanese civil wars, but is there any interest?

 

   No interest unless it involves Israel/Jews or it's attacking Donald Trump.

Could ask posters how would they solve the Sudanese civil war , as everyone has a solution to the Gaza war .

  

[BritManToo]

11 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

No interest unless it involves Israel/Jews or it's attacking Donald Trump.

Could ask posters how would they solve the Sudanese civil war , as everyone has a solution to the Gaza war .

I don't care what happens to foreigners, not my family, not my friends, not my countrymen, not my concern. This is what my first Thai girlfriend taught me!

[thaibeachlovers]

15 hours ago, bannork said:

No one is ignoring all the innocent children dying around the world in Gaza, Ukraine, Sudan and several other parts of Africa but this thread is about Trump's halt to foreign aid and its effect.

 

For what it's worth, the only "aid" I'd give to certain countries would be birth control.

No one should be having children if they depend on other countries to keep them alive, IMO. That way innocent children wouldn't be dying because Trump makes the correct decision to stop wasting US money. Those countries all have rich people in them, so let them support their own people.

Why do lefties always think it's up to the west to support corrupt countries, while their own people suffer?

[thaibeachlovers]

11 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Could ask posters how would they solve the Sudanese civil war , as everyone has a solution to the Gaza war .

Same way as any war. Stop supplying weapons and it'll end. None of the weapons were made in Sudan, nor the ammunition for them.

[Nick Carter icp]

4 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

I don't care what happens to foreigners, not my family, not my friends, not my countrymen, not my concern. This is what my first Thai girlfriend taught me!

 

  You do seem to only care about yourself and that everything needs to be about you all the time . 

[Nick Carter icp]

2 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Same way as any war. Stop supplying weapons and it'll end. None of the weapons were made in Sudan, nor the ammunition for them.

 

   Who do you side with in the Sudanese Civil war ?

Which side has the just cause ?

(I'll allow and extra ten minutes , so you can do some research into who's involved in the Sudanese civil war )

[thaibeachlovers]

3 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

  You do seem to only care about yourself and that everything needs to be about you all the time . 

Like most people on the planet. The only difference is he doesn't pretend that he cares, unlike a few on here.

[proton]

8 hours ago, bannork said:

Nothing like killing women and children, is there? 

Nearly 70% of Gaza war dead were women (26%) and children (44%).

 

 

The lesson there is don't start a war then start crying about the consequences when you start to lose. If Hamas had not been hiding behind civilians and in schools, hospitals and mosques the casualties would have been a lot less. Hamas like high causality rates as they use it for propaganda, for people like you to believe in.