4 minutes ago, bannork said:

If you believe the FAA employed people with intellectual disabilities to actually work as air traffic controllers, then:

1. Why has there been no civil airline accidents since 2008? duh! 

2. Do you seriously believe the FAA would actually employ in control towers people with intellectual disabilities?

Dumb and dumber.

 

Go ask Obama

 

 

7 minutes ago, bannork said:

If you believe the FAA employed people with intellectual disabilities to actually work as air traffic controllers, then:

1. Why has there been no civil airline accidents since 2008? duh! 

2. Do you seriously believe the FAA would actually employ in control towers people with intellectual disabilities?

Dumb and dumber.

 

Welcome to Bidens gong show DEI extraordinaire debacle.

 

 

https://www.foxnews.com/us/faas-diversity-push-includes-focus-hiring-people-severe-intellectual-psychiatric-disabilities

15 minutes ago, bannork said:

If you believe the FAA employed people with intellectual disabilities to actually work as air traffic controllers, then:

1. Why has there been no civil airline accidents since 2008? duh! 

2. Do you seriously believe the FAA would actually employ in control towers people with intellectual disabilities?

Dumb and dumber.

 

Not surprised, after all look at who was in charge (Biden) AND deemed as well to suffer mental deficiencies/ disabilities which was well known of Biden since he assumed office. LOL....you need to drop and break away from your brain washing by the lying media mob lead by MSNBC and the rest. Get some truth, fact based reality into your spectrum or live like a caveman in a cave.

 

 

Just now, illisdean said:

Not surprised, after all look at who was in charge (Biden) AND deemed as well to suffer mental deficiencies/ disabilities which was well known of Biden since he assumed office. LOL....you need to drop and break away from your brain washing by the lying media mob lead by MSNBC and the rest. Get some truth, fact based reality into your spectrum or live like a caveman in a cave.

 

 

 

20 minutes ago, illisdean said:

Go ask Obama

 

 

Look, try and get it into your head, they may try to recruit from a wider base but no-one is going to pass the stringent tests to be an air traffic controller unless they can actually do the job.

Now if they said, 'dwarfs, one armed lesbians, blind blacks, apply now for jobs as air traffic controllers, and it doesn't matter that you can't do the job, will accept you anyhow,' then sure, everyone has the right to kick up a fuss.

Show me some evidence they recruited and employed people not up to the job, and if they did, why didn't Trump dismiss them from 2016-2020? And why were there no accidents?

1 minute ago, bannork said:

Look, try and get it into your head, they may try to recruit from a wider base but no-one is going to pass the stringent tests to be an air traffic controller unless they can actually do the job.

Now if they said, 'dwarfs, one armed lesbians, blind blacks, apply now for jobs as air traffic controllers, and it doesn't matter that you can't do the job, will accept you anyhow,' then sure, everyone has the right to kick up a fuss.

Show me some evidence they recruited and employed people not up to the job, and if they did, why didn't Trump dismiss them from 2016-2020? And why were there no accidents?

The Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) is actively recruiting workers who suffer “severe intellectual” disabilities, psychiatric problems and other mental and physical conditions under a diversity and inclusion hiring initiative spelled out on the agency’s website.

“Targeted disabilities are those disabilities that the Federal government, as a matter of policy, has identified for special emphasis in recruitment and hiring,” the FAA’s website states. “They include hearing, vision, missing extremities, partial paralysis, complete paralysis, epilepsy, severe intellectual disability, psychiatric disability and dwarfism.”

The initiative is part of the FAA’s “Diversity and Inclusion” hiring plan, which says “diversity is integral to achieving FAA’s mission of ensuring safe and efficient travel across our nation and beyond.” The FAA’s website shows the agency’s guidelines on diversity hiring were last updated on March 23, 2022.

 

Its all in the FAA hiring plan, go read it. I'm not going to play your game based on your ignorance to factual reporting.

 

https://www.faa.gov/

 

 

1 minute ago, illisdean said:

The Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) is actively recruiting workers who suffer “severe intellectual” disabilities, psychiatric problems and other mental and physical conditions under a diversity and inclusion hiring initiative spelled out on the agency’s website.

“Targeted disabilities are those disabilities that the Federal government, as a matter of policy, has identified for special emphasis in recruitment and hiring,” the FAA’s website states. “They include hearing, vision, missing extremities, partial paralysis, complete paralysis, epilepsy, severe intellectual disability, psychiatric disability and dwarfism.”

The initiative is part of the FAA’s “Diversity and Inclusion” hiring plan, which says “diversity is integral to achieving FAA’s mission of ensuring safe and efficient travel across our nation and beyond.” The FAA’s website shows the agency’s guidelines on diversity hiring were last updated on March 23, 2022.

 

Its all in the FAA hiring plan, go read it. I'm not going to play your game based on your ignorance to factual reporting.

 

https://www.faa.gov/

 

 

Tell me how many applicants suffering from the disabilities you mention have been actually hired to be air traffic controllers?

And why haven't there been countless accidents as blind and deaf air traffic controllers miss planes? lol

 

 

3 hours ago, illisdean said:

 

Suuure. A tweet made with truncated bits of text, without source, and posted by the famous Debra M... is a reliable evidence! 

7 hours ago, candide said:

Suuure. A tweet made with truncated bits of text, without source, and posted by the famous Debra M... is a reliable evidence! 

Doesn't matter. It has been lapped up by his followers. 

I conclude from going through this thread that Trump was right, again, much to the annoyance of the haters who never give him credit for anything.

On 1/31/2025 at 8:07 PM, Callmeishmael said:

So, Trump blamed the crash on DEI hiring.  From Fox News, here is the helicopter pilot: (Andrew Eaves from Mississippi)

 

And here is the airplane pilot: (Sam Lilley from Georgia)

 

 

 

Are these two are DEI hires?

 

You are missing one pilot. Read between the lines.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/02/01/capt-rebecca-lobach-army-pilot-killed-crash/78130730007/

26 minutes ago, proton said:

I conclude from going through this thread that Trump was right, again, much to the annoyance of the haters who never give him credit for anything.

Strange conclusion since none of the facts show or even indicate he's right.

How about this, any inaccuracies?

 

 

15 hours ago, candide said:

The usual baseless MAGA claim!🙂

The Covid virus cannot originate from the viruses used for the U.S. research program.

 

But if you have DNA evidence about it, feel free to show it!

Is Fauci your hero, going to defend him regardless?

5 hours ago, frank83628 said:

Is Fauci your hero, going to defend him regardless?

Lame deflection after the lies you diffuse have been highlighted! 😆

6 hours ago, Yagoda said:

You are missing one pilot. Read between the lines.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/02/01/capt-rebecca-lobach-army-pilot-killed-crash/78130730007/

MAGA propaganda also lied about the helicopter pilot! 😆

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/helicopter-pilot-jo-ellis-trans-black-hawk-dc-crash-b2690385.html

6 hours ago, stevenl said:

How about this, any inaccuracies?

 

 

It confirms how corrupt and incompetent  they are.

 

NB. The fired FAA administration has been the first to increase the recruitment t of ATCs since nearly two decades!

6 hours ago, stevenl said:

Strange conclusion since none of the facts show or even indicate he's right.

 

You are talking utter garbage. CBS has fact checked and the helicopter was at double the allowed height. This is backed by live data of the flight. 

 

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/experts-ask-why-black-hawk-helicopter-may-have-been-flying-above-allowed-altitude/

 

I worked alongside the 11th ACR, Fulda, Germany. I knew many pilots and stay in touch with one. He isn't putting the boot in as he says the investigation will nail down exactly what happened so just wait. 

 

He also said the preliminary report expected in a month will be accurate. The full report, expected in a year, is where the fire will be. 

 

He ( and I ) remember fatal air accident reports back in the day. If the pilot is at fault, it will be made clear no matter how hurtful it is to the family. 

 

The simple reason is that the operative function of Army air units and USAF cannot depend on feelings. 

 

He said the CBS report of the helicopter flying at 400 feet is in itself catastrophic. But he also said that has to be verified. He cautions - if it's true, the pilot is going to be crucified by the report. 

 

This guy is now a commercial airline pilot. I can tell he's enraged but biting his tongue. 

 

Maybe we should all bite our tongues and that includes the partisans indicating that Trump was wrong when live radar readings say he was correct. 

45 minutes ago, candide said:

MAGA propaganda also lied about the helicopter pilot! 😆

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/helicopter-pilot-jo-ellis-trans-black-hawk-dc-crash-b2690385.html

 

Rebecca Lobach. 

 

By the way, you are very good at falling for hoaxes. You take delicious delight in spreading utter troll filth. 

6 hours ago, stevenl said:

How about this, any inaccuracies?

 

 

 

You got him.

 

It's well known that it only takes 9 days to train air traffic controllers. 

 

Just wondering. Do you ever engage your brain before posting?

14 minutes ago, theblether said:

 

Rebecca Lobach. 

 

By the way, you are very good at falling for hoaxes. You take delicious delight in spreading utter troll filth. 

If you knew what you were talking about (or if you had read the linked article, you would know that  Jo Ellis had been designated as the helicopter pilot in MAGA anti DEI rants. Also cited n this forum!

1 hour ago, candide said:

Lame deflection after the lies you diffuse have been highlighted! 😆

WH confimred it was Wuhan lab leak... Fauci responsible for GOF research, seems you don't care, 2 years lost, millions of businesses and millions of lives, but preemptive pardon for no crimes, turn a blind eye because you loathe Trump

2 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

WH confimred it was Wuhan lab leak... Fauci responsible for GOF research, seems you don't care, 2 years lost, millions of businesses and millions of lives, but preemptive pardon for no crimes, turn a blind eye because you loathe Trump

Blah blah!

Fact is that the viruses used in the research program financed by the U.S. are not related to the Covid virus. Claiming that Fauci is responsible for the Covid virus is a ridiculous lie! 🙂

1 hour ago, candide said:

MAGA propaganda also lied about the helicopter pilot! 😆

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/helicopter-pilot-jo-ellis-trans-black-hawk-dc-crash-b2690385.html

Who said it was "maga propaganda"? I would note you are a notorious America hater and Democratic party apologist

18 minutes ago, candide said:

If you knew what you were talking about (or if you had read the linked article, you would know that  Jo Elis had been designated as the helicopter pilot in MAGA anti DEI rants, including this forum!

 

Utterly absurd comment. You should know better than have a go at me over that stupidity. I know exactly who the online personality Jo Ellis purports to be. This is the equivalent of saying "Oprah has been elected the Queen of England." 

 

You should be ashamed of yourself linking to that utter drivel. Next you'll be linking to Big Foot seen shopping in 5th Avenue with Elvis. 

 

Just be quiet. 

Here we go - and here's the nuance. 

 

Lobach was on a training flight. Who was actually at the controls at the point of collision? I don't know. 

 

Who is responsible? Lobach, if she was at the controls, or the instructor? 

 

There's another report floating about that I can't verify - so it might be a hoax - that Lobach wasn't medically certificated to fly. 

 

I've got more info here but I can't be bothered getting into an argument with trolls trying to blame Trump who are that stupid they spread Big Foot type links. 

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/black-hawk-helicopter-investigation-pilots-flight-path-dc-plane-crash-rcna190031

 

 

6 minutes ago, candide said:

Blah blah!

Fact is that the viruses used in the research program financed by the U.S. are not related to the Covid virus. Claiming that Fauci is responsible for the Covid virus is a ridiculous lie! 🙂

Sticking hard to the "it just coincidentally appeared at a market across the road from the lab doing gain of function with bat coronaviruses" narrative??!😅 some people!

Once you finally realize Fauci needed and received a pardon, even you will be able to join the dots.

40 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Who said it was "maga propaganda"? I would note you are a notorious America hater and Democratic party apologist

N̈aah! It's just people who were looking for a transgender culprit (by pure coincidence while Trump was making anti DEI accusations), and also did not like her because she criticised Trump! 😆

 

https://mvau.lt/media/1f9bc124-cb94-4eff-92b5-2fe1051de105

https://perma.cc/2UQA-6BZJ

https://factcheck.afp.com/doc.afp.com.36WR2G9

 

On 1/31/2025 at 8:16 AM, jerrymahoney said:

"The FAA diversity push includes focus on hiring people with severe intellectual and psychiatric disabilities. That is amazing," Trump said, claiming the FAA wanted people "with severe disabilities, the most underrepresented segment of the workforce, and they want them in and they want them - they can be air traffic controllers."

 

Asked how he could blame diversity, equity and inclusion hiring for the crash without yet knowing who was at fault, Trump said, "because I have common sense."

 

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-takes-aim-without-evidence-diversity-policies-over-midair-collision-2025-01-30/

The sad  ritual Trump BS he rolls out. The DEI policy encouraged opportunities for "appropriate" hires in some occupation. It is only the position of POTUS that has been occupied by way of the US electoral system in a DEI context  covering both intellectual and psychiatric issues. In assessment sanitary supervisor could have been a possible but security assessment would  just as likely disqualify as a major risk !

Real life is not just another ego stroking episode in an Apprentice series.