Family Rush to Rescue British Man With Mystery Illness in Thailand

[ChipButty]

48 minutes ago, oustaristocrats said:

 

"around £3,000 (approximately 127,500 THB) per day" 

 

£3,000 per day, for something like pneumonia or similar, in Thailand !  Can somebody explain me ?

This sounds like a hospital for celebrities, world leaders. I knew that Bangrumrad in BKK s a famous international hospital with helicopter emergency services, maybe they come at these rates, but just an ordinary hospital in Hua-Hin ?

 

Not just an ordinary hospital Bangkok Hospital will be the number one there it has now taken over many hospitals, same here in Phuket, were we had the Phuket International, now it's Bangkok Hospital , now it's a big group, 

[steven100]

130,000 baht a day old son,  but we can't even tell you what you've got ........   

 

but hey '   I'll bet you'll feel alot sicker when you see the bill    

[proton]

3 hours ago, NorthernRyland said:

Does ASEANNOW get kick backs for posting these GoFundMe stories? I don't understand they get published here.

 

This man had a Thailand related YouTube channel he was running before he got brain cancer and will die soon. Many people struggling in need of extra money so what is different about this guy?

 

 

 

Months to live and wasting his time making miserable vlogs, strange.

[newbee2022]

41 minutes ago, steven100 said:

 

I love it when you guys fight ....   it lifts the topic up another notch.  

🤣🤣🤣 Enjoy 🤣🤣🤣

[dinsdale]

5 hours ago, webfact said:

In a race against time, the family of British man Raymond Wallace is working tirelessly to bring him back from Thailand, where he has been hospitalised with an enigmatic illness.

Nothing mysterious or enigmatic about it. Seems AI got a bit carried away with this one. "Initially diagnosed with pneumonia, his condition was later revised to acute respiratory distress syndrome. However, conflicting information from the British Embassy suggested potential kidney issues..." Not pneumonia so either as the docs have diagnosed ARDS or for some reason as the British Embassy is saying kidneys neither of which can be categorized as either mysterious or enigmatic. Enigmatic in this context would be difficult to diagnose or pin down if you will.

[steven100]

4 minutes ago, proton said:

 

Months to live and wasting his time making miserable vlogs, strange.

if he's only got months to live he should be out bang bang every hour and booze all day .... 

[Ralf001]

2 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

 

 

I feel for the guy, but also question the costs....  where did you get £3000 per day (130,000 baht per day) from ?? - that seems outrageously excessive - even for ICU ventilator etc.

 

 

 

 

 

ICU, Heavily Sedated, Ventilator, cost me 140k a day in 2023.

 

Jomtien hospital (part of the BDMS group).

[steven100]

when they come around and hand you the bill,  just say I need to go to the bathroom,  then when in the bathroom,  have a change of clothes already planted in a bag in the ceiling,  then change into new shirt & pants and cap,  then exit the building.  

[impulse]

3 hours ago, PomPolo said:

Most UK banks provide well covered travel insurance for under 20 quid a month, unless the guy is living here then why not just pay 60 quid for 3 months travel insurance?
Also the article says he was hospitalised in Hua Hin, however the gofundme request says it was in Bangkok.

Possibly a few unknowns to this story.

Do a sniff test on that when a proper health insurance policy in Thailand is costing some of my expat buddies about $1000 USD a month.

 

What do you figure they're leaving out to reduce the policy price by over 95%?

 

There have been many documentaries of people who thought they had paid for "full coverage" and found out the small print on page 63 of the policy excluded what put them in the hospital.

[PomPolo]

59 minutes ago, steven100 said:

Man sick in Thai hospital.

Doctors in Thailand are guessing  what's wrong with him. 

Room cost escalates to a whopping 3,000 pounds per day.   ( pad the bill )  

 

answer =   Go fund Me   

I like that answer I can't afford my birds any more I need to start a go fund me

[PomPolo]

2 minutes ago, impulse said:

Do a sniff test on that when a proper health insurance policy in Thailand is costing some of my expat buddies about $1000 USD a month.

 

What do you figure they're leaving out to reduce the policy price by over 95%?

 

There have been many documentaries of people who thought they had paid for "full coverage" and found out the small print on page 63 of the policy excluded what put them in the hospital.

Simple answer go back to England where you are taken care of for free along with immigrants in the NHS, although the amount of immigrants in the UK now would probably increase waiting times

[PomPolo]

Not even sure why they did a go beg for me campaign anyways they haven't made enough for a one night stay yet if it is truthful they are paying 3k a night in there.

There might be some suckers in this forum that could bump up the pay for my holiday .com site.

They are still after another 43 thousand pounds out of the begging 45k request any takers?

[KannikaP]

4 hours ago, riverhigh said:

Photos of him living it up in Thailand

Who is who in the OP photos. The one fooling with the Taj Mahal is the younger one on the right of the other. 

[PomPolo]

Same as that James Sangwine guy that got lost in Bangkok and ended up dead and there was a go beg me site to get his body back to the UK.

No more information publicly available what happened to him, is it really his family want privacy or they are embarrassed about him taking a drug overdose or killing himself with alcohol after people have donated to his go beg for me site.  Lots of suckers on AN berated many people who questioned and poked fun at a young lad getting lost in Bangkok (even though nobody knew his fate) I hope all the opinionated AN members donated towards his (alleged by me) addictions, they all seem to be quiet now the same as his family who were quicker to set up a begging site than let people know who donated what his fate actually was.

I smell the same here where a family can't put the name of their loving father on their begging pay for my holiday page.

I have a new idea for a website gofundmy-alcohol-drug-addictions-and-lack-of travel-insurance dot com, even though everyone else is expected to have that insurance?

gobegforme dot com should be shut down.

[BusyB]

4 hours ago, newbee2022 said:

I absolutely agree.

The family should ask for a bank loan or borrow somewhere but not bothering other people with the stupidity of this guy.

 

There's nothing wrong with asking. Everyone decides for themself whether or not to contribute.

 

Sounds like he was on some kind of a tour and saw a chance to add a few days in LOS and risk the expired insurance (if he actually had any). Lack of experience I would say.

 

I've noticed that I'm more prone to illnesses in the tropics now than I was 10 years ago. It's something I think'll  probably put a shelf life on my tropical life. In a few years I'll have to probably go back home where health care is free at the point of delivery. Either that or my system manages to learn to deal with the bugs.

 

The last two extended trips I collected a whole bunch of medical bills due to bugs including one life threatening. Never happened in younger years right up to Covid. Maybe my body is trying to tell me something.

 

Time will tell but I hope I have a few years yet.

[Harrisfan]

Why is it always Brits not buying Insurance?

[hotchilli]

4 hours ago, billd766 said:

And who should pay his bills?

 

Thailand, the British tax payer, Go Fund Me, his previous insurance company, his family, you, me, somebody else?

The family should pay to get him home and out of the clutches of the Thai hospital.

At home the NHS will take care of him, as a taxpayer he has made contributions..

[AlexRich]

£3,000 per day sounds like a rip off. They don’t even know what’s wrong with him? 
 

Not being insured is dumb however this just looks like exploitation. 

[steven100]

The doctors better think up some mystery illness to tell the family when they arrive,  they want to convince them they know what's wrong with him.    TIT  ....   

[Jonathan Swift]

4 hours ago, billd766 said:

And who should pay his bills?

 

Thailand, the British tax payer, Go Fund Me, his previous insurance company, his family, you, me, somebody else?

Yes. 

[billd766]

3 hours ago, NorthernRyland said:

Someone in his family should sell their car or something before it's an international charity case. Just because we're expats in Thailand why should this affect us more than charity of people back home or our own family? Not to mention charity for millions of Thais in need in the country we're living. It doesn't sit right with me either.

It will only affect you and your family personally IF you or they make a donation, and donations are purely voluntary.

[richard_smith237]

3 hours ago, Upnotover said:

4 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

I feel for the guy, but also question the costs....  where did you get £3000 per day (130,000 baht per day) from ?? - that seems outrageously excessive - even for ICU ventilator etc.

from the OP.....

 

"the family now faces escalating hospital costs of around £3,000 (approximately 127,500 THB) per day"

 

Thanks - I read the Op twice.... and still somehow managed to miss that.

 

127,500 per day is excessive - no treatment in Thailand costs that much and I know people who've been in ICU in Bangkok and Bumrungrad hospital... 

 

Something is very amiss with claims that high... 

 

[Kinok Farang]

5 hours ago, Scottie12 said:

His own fault for trying to to scrimp on his insurance policy,I would not contribute a penny to any GoFundMe appeal when it's the persons own fault.

Spoken like a true Scot.

[richard_smith237]

3 hours ago, NorthernRyland said:

Someone in his family should sell their car or something before it's an international charity case. Just because we're expats in Thailand why should this affect us more than charity of people back home or our own family? Not to mention charity for millions of Thais in need in the country we're living. It doesn't sit right with me either.

 

Why ??...  Why is it impacting you in Thailand more than anyone else in the the UK.

 

Do you think you are being 'targetted' and your 'emotional heart strings' are being plucked to help this guy out just because you are an expat in Thailand ????

 

The only reason 'you' are aware of this is because this happened in Thailand and coincidentally you read this forum....   That the news reached you has nothing to do with your expat status in Thailand. 

 

So you are correct to some extent - it shouldn't affect or impact you more than a charity back home ?... It shouldn't and it doesn't....   I'm not sure why you think it would or does ?

 

Charity is everywhere all around us...  we each chose our 'causes'....  or not depending on attitudes.

 

While I have contributed towards plenty of other causes (i.e. folks who've suffered unforseen birth defects of their new born which could not be insured, I'm less tollerant of those who fail in their organisation and suffer financial consequences, but I'm not wealthy enough to help everyone so choose my causes - But, I wouldn't wish these issues on anyone and really believe other solutions should be made availiable. 

i.e.

a) reciprocal agreements between governments to cover costs... 

b) automatic insurance on arrival (for tourists)

c) pay into Thai health care for long termers 

 

etc etc...    the solutions are there - the thought or determination to solve these issues seems not to be.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Nick Carter icp]

Showing him drinking in a posh bar and showing him at the Taj Mahal are probably not the best photos to put up whilst asking for  donations .

The GFM has raised 2.300 GBP in two days . Seems like bringing an old man back from Thailand isn't high up on people charitable donations 

[ukrules]

2 hours ago, digger70 said:

That ain't gonna do it  Must Read THE LOT Before going on Holiday ,,,, Just in case.

 

I do, but many will simply pop along to the post office and buy the cheapest policy available.

They can be very limited and you really need to read the small print. What good is 30 days cover per trip if you're going for 3 months and you have no idea it's limited per trip. Many are like this.

Like others said you can always increase or even take out new policies if you bother.

[Petethefeet]

I bank with Nationwide in UK. I have an account which provides worldwide travel insurance for 30 days. I am coming to Thailand for 6 weeks on Monday. I am 75 and have to pay an extra £170 for the last 12 days. I do this in a few minutes online with the bank's broker, Aviva. Maybe he just went over his insured time. Expensive mistake.

[billd766]

1 hour ago, hotchilli said:

The family should pay to get him home and out of the clutches of the Thai hospital.

At home the NHS will take care of him, as a taxpayer he has made contributions..

But that is not always correct.  

 

As a taxpayer I paid NIC for 44 years and my reward for coming to live in Thailand my pension was frozen from my 65th birthday. In addition if I were to return to the UK, unless I were at deaths door, I would have to wait for a NHS appointment  and pay for my treatment at a higher rate than I would if I were in Thailand.

 

Fortunately many years ago I registered with the Thai authorities and get treated the same as a Thai though I pay more than a Thai. If I want to see a doctor in Thailand I just register and join a queue.

 

I have nothing against the NHS who do a great job though they are well understaffed, very underpaid and overworked.

 

[PJ71]

6 hours ago, proton said:

Christ, three thousand pounds a day for a bed in a hospital where they don't know what your illness is seems a bit steep.

That's the cost, they'll be doing all sorts of test to figure out what's wrong.

 

 

[Ralf001]

3 minutes ago, PJ71 said:

That's the cost, they'll be doing all sorts of test to figure out what's wrong.

 

 

Correct, it does cost that in a private hospital.

 

Ive have an invoice to confirm.