Marco Rubio Demands Apology from Zelensky After Heated Oval Office Clash

[Chomper Higgot]

7 minutes ago, James105 said:

 

Help to do what?  Continue fighting an un-winnable war?  For what?  For how long?  How many is enough dead for you?  Another million?  2 million?  More?

 

Trump wants peace.  Zelenski wants the US/NATO to join in as they cannot win.  If they did then its WW3 and thankfully some common sense has returned to the White house so that is not going to happen.  

 

Soon a few boundaries will be redrawn on a map and the world will collectively shrug its shoulders as the adults (not Zelensky high on his Columbian marching powder) negotiate a peace deal to save more pointless loss of life and money.   

Trump wants what Putin wants.

 

 

We’ll see in the coming weeks how this plays with the American public

 

 

[Yellowtail]

When did the left start caring about Ukraine? Obama seemed to love Russia and Putin.

 

Remember in the Debate when Romney claimed Russian was the greatest geopolitical threat, and Obama scoffing and joking: Senator, the '80s called and want their foreign policy back. 

Remember Obama caught on a hot mike begging Putin for "space" until after the election in exchange for canceling missile defense.

Remember the "Russian Reset".

Remember Obama's refusal to sell defensive weapons to Ukraine.

 

Now remember Trump placing sanctions on Russia. 
Now remember Trump killing 200 of Russia's Wagner Group mercenaries in Syria.
Now remember Trump selling arms, including Javelin missiles to Ukraine. 

 

Remember Biden cancelling sanctions on Russia, including those imposed by Trump to gain favor with Putin. 
Remember Biden halting arms sales to Ukraine to gain favor with Putin. 
Remember Biden's surrender debacle in Afghanistan, emboldening Putin. 
Remember Biden saying that the US would not respond to Russia invading Ukraine, if it were only a minor invasion, further emboldening Putin. 

 

The left seemed to care nothing about Ukraine until it became politically expedient for them to use in attacking Trump and to pretend Trump was a Russian asset. 

[Yellowtail]

9 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Trump wants what Putin wants.

 

 

We’ll see in the coming weeks how this plays with the American public

 

 

What does Putin want? 

[Chomper Higgot]

1 minute ago, Yellowtail said:

When did the left start caring about Ukraine? Obama seemed to love Russia and Putin.

 

Remember in the Debate when Romney claimed Russian was the greatest geopolitical threat, and Obama scoffing and joking: Senator, the '80s called and want their foreign policy back. 

Remember Obama caught on a hot mike begging Putin for "space" until after the election in exchange for canceling missile defense.

Remember the "Russian Reset".

Remember Obama's refusal to sell defensive weapons to Ukraine.

 

Now remember Trump placing sanctions on Russia. 
Now remember Trump killing 200 of Russia's Wagner Group mercenaries in Syria.
Now remember Trump selling arms, including Javelin missiles to Ukraine. 

 

Remember Biden cancelling sanctions on Russia, including those imposed by Trump to gain favor with Putin. 
Remember Biden halting arms sales to Ukraine to gain favor with Putin. 
Remember Biden's surrender debacle in Afghanistan, emboldening Putin. 
Remember Biden saying that the US would not respond to Russia invading Ukraine, if it were only a minor invasion, further emboldening Putin. 

 

The left seemed to care nothing about Ukraine until it became politically expedient for them to use in attacking Trump and to pretend Trump was a Russian asset. 

Did you miss the bit where Russia invaded Ukraine?

[BangkokReady]

8 hours ago, SMIAI said:

Nice to see @BangkokReady's finger on the emoticons. They are all so predictable.

 

Your responses are garbage and deserve nothing more.  The are literally just, "No, it's the opposite of that, [insert ad hom]."  There's nothing to respond to.

[Yellowtail]

Just now, Chomper Higgot said:

Did you miss the bit where Russia invaded Ukraine?

Thanks, I fixed it. 

 

When did the left start caring about Ukraine? Obama seemed to love Russia and Putin. 

Remember in the Debate when Romney claimed Russian was the greatest geopolitical threat, and Obama scoffing and joking: Senator, the '80s called and want their foreign policy back. 
Remember Obama caught on a hot mike begging Putin for "space" until after the election in exchange for canceling missile defense.
Remember the "Russian Reset".
Remember Obama's refusal to sell defensive weapons to Ukraine.
Remember Obama did nothing in 2014 when Putin invaded and began the occupation of Crimea. 

Now remember Trump placing sanctions on Russia. 
Now remember Trump killing 200 of Russia's Wagner Group mercenaries in Syria.
Now remember Trump selling arms, including Javelin missiles to Ukraine. 

 

Remember Biden cancelling sanctions on Russia, including those imposed by Trump to gain favor with Putin. 
Remember Biden halting arms sales to Ukraine to gain favor with Putin. 
Remember Biden's surrender debacle in Afghanistan, emboldening Putin. 
Remember Biden saying that the US would not respond to Russia invading Ukraine, if it were only a minor invasion, further emboldening Putin. 

 

The left seemed to care nothing about Ukraine until it became politically expedient for them to use in attacking Trump and to pretend Trump was a Russian asset. 
 

[BangkokReady]

49 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

No he does not.

 

There's no way that the Ukraine could have held off Russia without masses of help from other countries.  They aren't in any position to make demands from any of their backers, as their backers can simply say that they will stop helping them and they will fall.

[stevenl]

49 minutes ago, impulse said:

Interesting that the EU hive mind on X have all posted the same:

 

Your dignity honors the bravery of the Ukrainian people.

Be strong, be brave, be fearless.
You are never alone, dear President @ZelenskyyUa.

We will continue working with you for a just and lasting peace.

 

— Ursula von der Leyen (@vonderleyen) 

— Roberta Metsola (@EP_President)

— António Costa (@eucopresident)

— Valdis Dombrovskis (@VDombrovskis)

— Manfred Weber (@ManfredWeber)

 

It's as if they all got their talking points and marching orders from the same source.  Like the MSM when they called Vance "weird".  And their current "constitutional crisis".  Not an original thought between them.

 

Righto, like maga's calling biden sleepy Joe you mean?

[Yellowtail]

Just now, stevenl said:

Righto, like maga's calling biden sleepy Joe you mean?

No, calling Biden sleepy Joe would be more like leftist calling Trump (trump?) orange man or some-such. 

[impulse]

5 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Righto, like maga's calling biden sleepy Joe you mean?

 

When did the right wing media call him sleepy Joe?

 

[stevenl]

3 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

No, calling Biden sleepy Joe would be more like leftist calling Trump (trump?) orange man or some-such. 

"It's as if they all got their talking points and marching orders from the same source. Like the MSM when they called Vance "weird". And their current "constitutional crisis". Not an original thought between them."

[BangkokReady]

1 hour ago, Yellowtail said:

Exactly. Zelensky should not appetize, he owes nothing to anyone, and he should sever all ties with the Trump Administration and just get back to prosecuting the war to save Ukraine. 

 

He should send back any equipment he has received so far, refuse to accept any more, then he can go in whichever way he wants with Russia and make whatever demands he sees fit

[SMIAI]

1 hour ago, BangkokReady said:

 

Your responses are garbage and deserve nothing more.  The are literally just, "No, it's the opposite of that, [insert ad hom]."  There's nothing to respond to.

 

Thank you for your admission that you put negative emoticons on each of my posts. That's the level of behaviour I have come to expect from you. Thank you again for the admission and confirmation.

[SMIAI]

1 hour ago, BangkokReady said:

 

He should send back any equipment he has received so far, refuse to accept any more, then he can go in whichever way he wants with Russia and make whatever demands he sees fit

 

Childish nonsense, at the level of the kindergarten.

[Chomper Higgot]

Trump’s supporters, both foreign a domestic, are delighted to see Trump siding with a murderous dictator against the leader of democracy in need of help.

 

Kick a man while he’s down, the rightwing tough guy and his pet attack poodle show how it’s done.

 

 

[SMIAI]

9 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Trump’s supporters, both foreign a domestic, are delighted to see Trump siding with a murderous dictator against the leader of democracy in need of help.

 

Kick a man while he’s down, the rightwing tough guy and his pet attack poodle show how it’s done.

 

 

 

I particularly appreciated, during his rant in the cherished Oval Office, his sympathy for what poor Mr Putin went through during the Russian collusion investigations. 

He made it sound like Mr Putin went to bed each night full of tears and upset about it. People should really watch the video of the whole meeting. 

Is it true that Trump met with the KGB in '87? I don't know.

[Rimmer]

Norway fuel giant 'refuses to fill US submarines' after Trump-Zelensky clash

 

A petrol giant in Norway has announced a ban on fuel sales to all US forces following Donald Trump's treatment of Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky at the White House, it has been reported.

 

Norwegian firm Haltbakk Bunkers announced it will stop providing fuel to all American forces in Norway as it declared "No fuel to Americans!". The firm posted on social media to declare its support for Zelensky as it dealt a hammer blow to US President Trump following the heated spat televised from the Oval Office.

 

See More:

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/2021304/norway-fuel-giant-refuses-fill

[Nick Carter icp]

30 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Trump’s supporters, both foreign a domestic, are delighted to see Trump siding with a murderous dictator against the leader of democracy in need of help.

 

Kick a man while he’s down, the rightwing tough guy and his pet attack poodle show how it’s done.

 

 

 

   Need to put differences aside and get the war finished .

Concessions from all sides need to be made in order for a peace to prevail

[Chomper Higgot]

Just now, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Need to put differences aside and get the war finished .

Concessions from all sides need to be made in order for a peace to prevail

That’s precisely not what Trump

is doing.

 

He’s a mouth piece for Putin.

 

But I would be interested to hear how much of your own home country’s territory you would be willing to handover to appease Putin should he choose to invade?

 

 

[Nick Carter icp]

5 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

That’s precisely not what Trump

is doing.

 

He’s a mouth piece for Putin.

 

But I would be interested to hear how much of your own home country’s territory you would be willing to handover to appease Putin should he choose to invade?

 

 

 

   This isn't about me or my home Country though .

Different situation 

[Chomper Higgot]

Just now, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   This isn't about me or my home Country though .

Different situation 

Then you might want to go easy on giving other nation’s territory to an invading tyrant.

 

It’s the decision of the Ukrainians to continue defending themselves, they are only asking for the weapons to be able to do so.

 

 

[riclag]

18 hours ago, Jeff the Chef said:

 Yes, I've seen it, now you have a look at Putin's record of past deals, 

here, https://edition.cnn.com/2025/02/27/politics/video/trump-putin-zelensky-russia-ukraine-war-burnett-ebof-digvid

Yes , Ive also seen poking the bear ever since !The constant threat of pushing 

Nato eastwards after Gorbachev !

 

https://m.economictimes.com/news/international/world-news/jeffrey-sachs-roaring-speech-at-eu-parliament-lambasts-us-europe-over-ukraine-war/amp_podcast/118652924.cms

https://www.cis.org.au/commentary/opinion/the-wests-bid-to-expand-nato-eastwards-was-a-mistake/

 

The solution now is in the  European’s

hands now.

 

 

[BangkokReady]

4 hours ago, SMIAI said:

Childish nonsense, at the level of the kindergarten.

 

That's the point!  🙄

 

Of course you don't understand that.  🤦‍♂️

[SMIAI]

12 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

 

Yes, as I said, your posts are garbage and add nothing to the conversation.  You get negative emojis for this exact reason.

 

I'm glad that you understand how bad your posts are.  

 

I'm guessing that you aren't going to morph into an adult during the lifetime of this forum.

 

[SMIAI]

12 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

 

Refer to the post above that!  

 

Imitation is the highest form of flattery. Thank you.

[transam]

3 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Need to put differences aside and get the war finished .

Concessions from all sides need to be made in order for a peace to prevail

Hitler would have liked you, but back then the tyrant had to be taken out at all costs, he was and freedom was achieved...

Now, Putin would like you, backing up the tyrant invader......................😒

[BangkokReady]

1 minute ago, SMIAI said:

I'm guessing that you aren't going to morph into an adult during the lifetime of this forum.

 

1 minute ago, SMIAI said:

Imitation is the highest form of flattery. Thank you.

 

[Hakuna Matata]

 

[ElwoodP]

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Next step will be removing posters.

Please be polite and civil.

[SMIAI]

Speaking of Marco Rubio: