What does it take to run a diner?

[Ralf001]

16 minutes ago, georgegeorgia said:

Most of these people want too much for their business 

I don't know this guys particularly case but I bet he wanted several million baht for it 

They overvalue it 

 

5.5m was the asking.

[georgegeorgia]

6 hours ago, Ralf001 said:

5.5m was the asking.

I think the freehold of the building is around 9 ,so an extra 4 and you become the landlord instead 

[Yellowtail]

I would not return to a diner with a TV playing. 

[Ralf001]

50 minutes ago, georgegeorgia said:

I think the freehold of the building is around 9 ,so an extra 4 and you become the landlord instead 

I do not beleive it has ever been offered free hold.

The 5.5 was the 2023 price, in 2020 it was 1.7.

[worgeordie]

Just stick with your job George , the brush would miss you

 

regards Worgeordie

[jacko45k]

18 hours ago, georgegeorgia said:

Most of these people want too much for their business 

I don't know this guys particularly case but I bet he wanted several million baht for it 

They overvalue it 

 

I believe he did.....

[kingstonkid]

On 3/16/2025 at 5:24 AM, SAFETY FIRST said:

Nicky's on Soi Buakhou since 2004, is popular, foreign owners. 

 

It'd be heart breaking at times, putting up with the many moaning, miserable foreigners. 

 

 

Lots of hard work, I think you are too lazy.

 

 

How do they get away with foreign ownership?

 

Just wondering.  In Pats there is usually someone around that will reportyou if you have a farang worker.  I amsure Nickey's went throught he same thing.

 

As to 99 baht breakfast it is easy.  They may make a baht or 2 but it brings peopleinto the shop and then they buy other meals.    

[1FinickyOne]

On 3/16/2025 at 5:21 AM, georgegeorgia said:

I couldn't move here to Pattaya and do nothing

you won't do nothing - you will over analyze things in a simplistic manner and then tell everyone of it... if you become a business owner, the customers will annoy the crap out of you... 

[jippytum]

If your intended customers at your diner retire to bed as you do at 7pm there would be no need to open 24 hours. 

[Grumpy one]

My wife ran a cafe for a few years, I was the one everyone whined to.

Examples, 1 sausage was smaller than the other, solution I will shorten the longer one

The breakfast was cheaper 3 kilometers up the beach    go for the walk it will be good for me

These cheap and miserable wretches almost made me sorry for their families back where they came from, mostly Poms with 2 Australians who I was happy to tell to Flock Off

No more selling food for us, just a simple lazy life

[Sydebolle]

From experience; for one successful operation you'll find 100 just surviving and a 1,000 who failed. It is hard work, a delicate balance between professional purchasing and market-conform selling, the staff issue is endless in whole Thailand but particularly critical in Pattaya and, in all fairness, nobody goes to that area for "dining".

Eventually a production kitchen might be the answer. Provide the open beer bars around the area with neutral menu display stands giving a selection of a few pizza options, square, in two slices. Put the sales price onto the display and state "order with our staff here". The bar orders with you, collects the pizza slice/s - say - ten minutes later and pays you the sales price less 20% as their commission. 

No dining tables, cutleries, waiting staff, air conditioned restaurant etc. etc. - just a thought. Everything else is, in most cases, suicidal in the long run, me thinks! 

I got out in time with a professional 4* star restaurant; would never ever do anything the like ever again - in Thailand that is. 

[Cameroni]

1 hour ago, Grumpy one said:

My wife ran a cafe for a few years, I was the one everyone whined to.

Examples, 1 sausage was smaller than the other, solution I will shorten the longer one

The breakfast was cheaper 3 kilometers up the beach    go for the walk it will be good for me

These cheap and miserable wretches almost made me sorry for their families back where they came from, mostly Poms with 2 Australians who I was happy to tell to Flock Off

No more selling food for us, just a simple lazy life

 

Yes, the margins in the restaurant business are very small. You have to pay employees, electricity, food inventory, rent, and to cap it all it is so much work and you have to invest to fit out the place. 

 

It is puzzling anybody opens a restaurant really.

 

 

[Photoguy21]

Imagination and reality are way different. I suggest you stick with the fantasy you have created in your mind.