So now they are terrorists.

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11 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Not it wouldnt, what a stupid point. 

 

Tourists are entitled to be here.

Immigrants are intitled to be here.

Illegal aliens are criminals ab initio and are not.

 

What part dont you understand? Clearly your utter hatred of the USA blinds you to reality.

I don't think that makes much difference to the murdered party. If stopping immigrants or tourism saves just one life, then why isn't that worth it?

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8 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

I don't jump when you say so.

 

You are supporting terrorists. 

Blatant lie

[Patong2021]

8 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

I'd say having the gang tattoo would be enough.

 

Really. And what if the tattoo is a hummingbird or Real Madridteam logo?

 

And what of the idiots who get gang tattoos as a fashion statement, you know  the people called wiggers and included such geniuses as vanilla ice.

https://greensboro.com/teardrop-tattoos-gang-symbol-now-a-fashion-fad-police-worry-young-people-getting-the-tattoos/article_1d26289f-f94c-5751-ac56-7ad3bae0181e.html

 

[Yagoda]

Just now, placeholder said:

I don't think that makes much difference to the murdered party. If stopping immigrants or tourism saves just one life, then why isn't that worth it?

Now you are arguing just for the sake of arguing to justify your love of terrorists and criminals and further spew your vicious anti American bile. Here, let me make it easy for you:

 

Tourists are useful.

Immigrants are Useful.

Illegal aliens are prima facie criminals and are not useful. They are criminals. They indicate, by their very appearance on our shores, the intent to violate the law. They demonstrate that our laws mean  nothing, and that their personal desires outweigh obedience to the law. They have indicated their willingness to risk their own lives to commit a crime here, it would not be a stretch to say they would kill to stay, would it?

 

I bet you approve of tipping off criminal illegal aliens to ICE raids

 

The depth of your loathing for the USA is astonishing.

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3 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Now you are arguing just for the sake of arguing to justify your love of terrorists and criminals and further spew your vicious anti American bile. Here, let me make it easy for you:

 

Tourists are useful.

Immigrants are Useful.

Illegal aliens are prima facie criminals and are not useful. They are criminals. They indicate, by their very appearance on our shores, the intent to violate the law. They demonstrate that our laws mean  nothing, and that their personal desires outweigh obedience to the law. They have indicated their willingness to risk their own lives to commit a crime here, it would not be a stretch to say they would kill to stay, would it?

 

I bet you approve of tipping off criminal illegal aliens to ICE raids

 

The depth of your loathing for the USA is astonishing.

Ignorance is bliss

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3 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Now you are arguing just for the sake of arguing to justify your love of terrorists and criminals and further spew your vicious anti American bile. Here, let me make it easy for you:

 

Tourists are useful.

Immigrants are Useful.

Illegal aliens are prima facie criminals and are not useful. They are criminals. They indicate, by their very appearance on our shores, the intent to violate the law. They demonstrate that our laws mean  nothing, and that their personal desires outweigh obedience to the law. They have indicated their willingness to risk their own lives to commit a crime here, it would not be a stretch to say they would kill to stay, would it?

 

I bet you approve of tipping off criminal illegal aliens to ICE raids

 

The depth of your loathing for the USA is astonishing.

Undocumented aliens aren't useful? Tell that to the families of dairy farmers like the family of Devin Nunes. They openly admit that over 50% of their workers are undocumented aliens. How about all those homes getting built in Texas with their labor? Not useful? Tell that to people living in the homes they built. And so on and so forth.

 

As for being anti-American, stop wrapping yourself up in the American flag. There are 10s of millions of Americans who disagree with you. I'd like to think it's unAmerican to disparage people who disagree with you simply because they disagree with you. But maybe not anymore. Maybe it's becoming a common American characteristic.

[Yagoda]

9 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

And what of the idiots who get gang tattoos as a fashion statement, you know  the people called wiggers and included such geniuses as vanilla ice.

You cant let up in your support of criminals and terrorists being permitted to illegally enter and stay in America where they prey upon American citizens and legal immigrants.

 

Tell us of any American citizen arrested and deported for having gang tattoos? Tell us how Americans, the Real Media and the Fake News would react if some poor "wigger" with MS-13 on his head got picked up and sent to El Salvador? You think Tom Homan is telling the agents to grab everyone, notwithstanding citizenship? Maybe in your type of country but not ours.

 

Here is how it works.

You have Gang Tattoos

You have entered unlawfully and are now a criminal alien.

You have committed crimes in the USA, or associate with criminals, or are in  custody.

You have a criminal record or are wanted in a jurisdiction outside the USA.

 

Those guys are the ones who are on the plane. All your spittlespew screeching about the danger to "wiggers" or indeed any other American is digested plant material out of a bulls rectum. Your silly fantasies about Tattooed teens being rounded up in stalhelm wearing jackbooted DHS thugs presuppose a reality where there arent things like AI, Social Media, fingerprints, mug shots, surveillance photos, jail records, Interpol notices, crime scene reports and the like.

 

Its like, OMG, Navajos are being profiled. OK, Navajos look like Mexicans. Hey you a US citizen. Yeah dude. OK.  See ya.

Its like when Col. Imigrationtharah is told, a Swede  is loose in Bangkok and one of the BIBs accosts me. We all look a like dont we? Waaaaah, the cops asked me a question? Waaaaah, Im  such a victim.

 

The PoPo know exactly who they want and who they are looking for. There are lots of them, so you poor victims will have to wait Your turn. YOu m ay want to stay away from some folks though, and you may want to consider self deportation like AOCs aide just did. Maybe she should be prosecuted! Like those big corporations that do it.

 

[Yagoda]

27 minutes ago, bubblegum said:

Ignorance is bliss

And what am I ignorant of, or is it just another one of your personal hatespews?

[Yagoda]

28 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Undocumented aliens aren't useful?

No, they are illegal aliens and criminals. I dont cut a break for the plumber that steals my Rolex because he is "useful".

 

29 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Tell that to the families of dairy farmers like the family of Devin Nunes. They openly admit that over 50% of their workers are undocumented aliens.

Source? Prosecute whoever. Prosecute anyone who hires them, Like AOC.

 

30 minutes ago, placeholder said:

How about all those homes getting built in Texas with their labor?

Give us the source of your figures. By the way every legitimate contractor I know (including my own family) will only hire or subcontract to legals. Of course, when you hire Green Card Jose Ramirez painting he might be paying his illegal brother in law from Hondurus, violating not only Immigration Laws, tax laws, labour laws. So tell us, we are to allow an invasion of our country because some contractors can EXPLOIT illegal workers. Prosecute them! Throw them out too.

 

35 minutes ago, placeholder said:

As for being anti-American, stop wrapping yourself up in the American flag. There are 10s of millions of Americans who disagree with you.

Wanting the best for my country is not wrapping myself in the flag. Tell us the poll numbers on the question of throwing the scum out. And because some Americans themselves take an anti American stance doesnt make your hatred of the USA any less loathsome. Im not debating with them, just you.

[billd766]

14 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

 

You really  are devoid of cognitive ability rendering your reading comprehension below that of a high school student. There is no law making it a crime to live in the U.S. as an undocumented immigrant. Instead, the law treats it as a civil violation. If the undocumented immigrant has lied, or misrepresented on legal forms to enter the USA, then that act may be criminal if a court so rules.    Undocumented presence alone is not a violation of federal criminal law. 

 

You can't have it both ways. The Trump administration has been relying on the  current civil laws to carry out its campaign. Federal immigration laws are principally enforced through civil proceedings administered by the Department of Homeland Security. Because these are civil proceedings, the accused immigration offenders do not have the same protections  that apply when someone is charged with a crime. 

He doesn't want it both ways.

 

The Trump version is the only version that he will accept. Facts have no effect on him, only what his supreme leader spouts is the true version.

[billd766]

13 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

Are you really this foolish?

Where in the law does it state "Unlawful"?

Improper Entry is defined.  Where is it declared a criminal offence?

As per the Pew study I cited, an estimated 43% of unauthorized immigrants are violators of their visa. They entered the USA in a lawful manner.   You are now backtracking from labeling all unauthorized  immigrants as criminals to  trying to squirm out of your embarrassment  by referring to "unlawful entrants".

 

Yes, some  very bad people have entered the USA, and in some cases have been deported previously. Unfortunately, the immigration enforcement actions are not  specifically targeting these people. Instead they seem to be going after anyone  who is assumed to be an "illegal". Hence the increased reports of  hispanics being stopped and harassed. Too much of the activity is for show, and not for  a real impact. 

He will never believe anything that you say. He is a Trump supporter and will only believe anything that comes from Trump.

 

IMHO you are better off putting him on ignore and starve him of a response.

 

He has been on my ignore list for several months now.

[Yagoda]

19 hours ago, billd766 said:

He will never believe anything that you say. He is a Trump supporter and will only believe anything that comes from Trump.

 

IMHO you are better off putting him on ignore and starve him of a response.

 

He has been on my ignore list for several months now.

That way you don't get to  see your fake Internet knowledge crashing about your head as folks do things like quote the text of statutes as opposed to quotes from Rachel Maddow

[Albaby]

On 3/22/2025 at 12:52 PM, cjinchiangrai said:

And at some point might be safer without you. There are rules that need to be followed.

These are illegal immigrants, most of whom have committed serious crimes in the US. But you think they are entitled to due process., at vast cost to the taxpayer. Jesus wept!

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8 minutes ago, Albaby said:

These are illegal immigrants, most of whom have committed serious crimes in the US. But you think they are entitled to due process., at vast cost to the taxpayer. Jesus wept!

Jesus ! You don't have the faintest idea who Jesus was!

[cjinchiangrai]

14 minutes ago, Albaby said:

These are illegal immigrants, most of whom have committed serious crimes in the US. But you think they are entitled to due process., at vast cost to the taxpayer. Jesus wept!

Prove it. Just because Trump says so is no reason to believe anything.