Trump Takes Backpedaling to an Aerobic Extreme

[Dan O]

4 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

Great news, lower taxes for poor Americans 

Not sure how you get lower taxes by raising tariffs with no real plan moving forward.  Let us know when your taxes are lowered as a result of his ludicrous tariff plans 

[Dan O]

4 hours ago, frank83628 said:

Trump places tariffs = wrong

Trump postpones tariffs = pussy

 

So, do you want tariffs or not?, or as I expect will just attack Trump regardless 

No he's just getting calling him out for what he is. He's wrong in so many ways and a pussy. Pretty much covers it though doesn't it? 

[frank83628]

1 minute ago, Dan O said:

No he's just getting calling him out for what he is. He's wrong in so many ways and a pussy. Pretty much covers it though doesn't it? 

IYO, you anti Trumpers will oppose anything he says or does. Proof of that is clear everyday, 

If Trump promoted clean air you'd all start burning tyres

[Dan O]

4 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

We know where you stand. 

 

I can wait until the tariff debacle shakes out before I pass judgement. 

 

So far, I am pretty happy with the way most everything else seems to be going. 

Sad if your happy with his failing approach to everything he's doing. Injunctions and reversals in court and pending court cases to his exec orders. Multiple reversals to his tariff debacle. Abondoning foreign allies and international programs. Sorched earth approach to firings getting stopped by courts.  What has he actually accomplished other than f'n up the govt functions, screwing a good economy and ruining international relations. 

[Dan O]

4 hours ago, Pouatchee said:

 

no not at all. i love people yapping about another country's politics without actually knowing anything about said country except what they think they know which usually aint anything more than a fart in a bathtub... there opinion that is... 

Well so far he's been right on target with whats going on. You should stop and ask yourself how can a foreigner to the US be so accurate and understand what's actually going on. Not the smoke screen Trump and the trumpettes are parroting but whats really happening. 

[BLMFem]

4 minutes ago, Dan O said:

Sad if your happy with his failing approach to everything he's doing. Injunctions and reversals in court and pending court cases to his exec orders. Multiple reversals to his tariff debacle. Abondoning foreign allies and international programs. Sorched earth approach to firings getting stopped by courts.  What has he actually accomplished other than f'n up the govt functions, screwing a good economy and ruining international relations. 

Well, that's a win for the MAGA cult. "Sticking it to the libs" is their whole raison d'etre and frack the consequences. That's the level they operate at.

What a sad, sad bunch.

[pomchop]

2 hours ago, frank83628 said:

Who else then? Doesn't really count for Jack unless you are an American.

Musk was ok with everyone when he was supplying Ukraine with his starlink. 

You do not speak for "everyone". 

 

I have thought musk was a shyster long before he bought his way into the white house.

[Dan O]

14 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

IYO, you anti Trumpers will oppose anything he says or does. Proof of that is clear everyday, 

If Trump promoted clean air you'd all start burning tyres

Yep people capable of independent thinking see thru the bs he's trying to sell and recognize the destruction he's causing and call it out for what it is. Don't you hate when people are allowed to think on their own.

[Purdey]

I was reading that Trump is cutting agencies to "save money" then wants to spend billions on a Golden Dome, which everyone says will not work. Israel has one so daddy wants one, Israel is the size of New Jersey. Poor Hesketh, trying to save $50billion and this comes along.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/lasers-space-radars-missile-interceptors-defense-leaders-lay-out-vision-trumps-golden-dome-project?msockid=1aa188ee182660e92d269de519276170

https://spacenews.com/golden-dome-replaces-iron-dome-pentagon-renames-missile-defense-initiative/

 

 

[jas007]

20 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

IYO, you anti Trumpers will oppose anything he says or does. Proof of that is clear everyday, 

If Trump promoted clean air you'd all start burning tyres

What they don't seem to realize is this:  the election is OVER.  Trump won, and he's the real President of the United States.  He won the popular vote. He wont the electoral vote.  And, he has a sweeping mandate.  A very large majority of the people of the United States support him and his efforts to clean up the mess made by Biden.  And yet the people on the left continue with their fantasy.

 

People on the left are so brainwashed that their entire mindset seems to be permanently warped.  They seem to really think that Trump is some sort of temporary interloper, a nuisance to be thwarted at every turn.  No matter what the problem is, get Trump out of the way and everything will be fine.

 

Even Harris, during the campaign, thought that all she had to do was utter the word Trump and that would win every argument.  Was it the 60 Minutes interview that was altered after the fact to make her look less stupid?  Someone asked her a question and she said something like: "But Trump."  

 

Anyway, Trump is a real US President.  And he's President now.  

 

All the nonsense we heard about "protecting our democracy"? In reality, those people wanted to protect their continued plunder of the US Treasury.  Trump is stopping them and they're mad.  

[jas007]

12 minutes ago, Purdey said:

I was reading that Trump is cutting agencies to "save money" then wants to spend billions on a Golden Dome, which everyone says will not work. Israel has one so daddy wants one, Israel is the size of New Jersey. Poor Hesketh, trying to save $50billion and this comes along.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/lasers-space-radars-missile-interceptors-defense-leaders-lay-out-vision-trumps-golden-dome-project?msockid=1aa188ee182660e92d269de519276170

https://spacenews.com/golden-dome-replaces-iron-dome-pentagon-renames-missile-defense-initiative/

 

 

Doesn't Russia now have hypersonic weapons that can't be stopped by anything?  They've already demonstrated that they do, I believe.

 

Maybe Trump knows something he's not disclosing?  Otherwise, a "dome" for the US is a big waste of money.  

 

Actually, I worry about the Neocon in Trump's Cabinet.  Rubio.  He may say he's working for Trump, but he's still a Neoccn, and that means trouble.  Maybe not in the current talks to end the war in Ukraine, but in the Middle East, for sure.  Who is really running US foreign policy? 

 

 

[frank83628]

29 minutes ago, pomchop said:

You do not speak for "everyone". 

 

I have thought musk was a shyster long before he bought his way into the white house.

No, I don't and I wasn't, i was referring to his coverage in the MSM, ihe was loved but them then, the attacks started when he bought Twitter.

[NoDisplayName]

1 hour ago, cdemundo said:

The thing is that Musk and Trump seem to be afraid of the big spenders, the biggest item in the discretionary budget, the military.

Handling them with kid gloves I see. 

Afraid to poke the bear?

 

Googles is your friend.

Doge pokie bearie make ouchies!

 

Hegseth wants Pentagon to cut 8% from defense budget for each of the next 5 years

[BLMFem]

5 minutes ago, jas007 said:

Doesn't Russia now have hypersonic weapons that can't be stopped by anything?  They've already demonstrated that they do, I believe.

 

Maybe Trump knows something he's not disclosing?  Otherwise, a "dome" for the US is a big waste of money.  

 

Actually, I worry about the Neocon in Trump's Cabinet.  Rubio.  He may say he's working for Trump, but he's still a Neoccn, and that means trouble.  Maybe not in the current talks to end the war in Ukraine, but in the Middle East, for sure.  Who is really running US foreign policy? 

 

 

Not the grown-ups, that much is obvious. Poor Rubio, the only grown-up in the cabinet has been pushed aside by a bunch of MAGA clowns.

He won't last long.

[frank83628]

30 minutes ago, Dan O said:

Yep people capable of independent thinking see thru the bs he's trying to sell and recognize the destruction he's causing and call it out for what it is. Don't you hate when people are allowed to think on their own.

Thinking on you own is fine.... firebombing and shooting up Tesla dealers is not.

 The only reason people are doing that is because of the lies the media have spread, branding him a Nazi...

[worgeordie]

5 hours ago, connda said:

@placeholder  You do understand that Trump lives in your mind rent free.  That's not healthy.

Do you realize you MAGA are all in a cult , do what Donald tells you, that's a good boy

 

regards worgeordie

[Dan O]

3 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

Thinking on you own is fine.... firebombing and shooting up Tesla dealers is not.

 The only reason people are doing that is because of the lies the media have spread, branding him a Nazi...

No one was talking about Tesla so not sure why you threw that in there. Yeah there are radicals out there, always has been and always will be. They are not a significant quantity in numbers but the cultists will always over play them as leftist but they are more anarchist than left politically. 

 

 

The media didn't brand him, he branded himself with his comments and actions.

But I guess in true cultists thinking you have to find someone else to blame and then you can point the finger of where all the problems are

[BangkokReady]

5 hours ago, placeholder said:

The White House is narrowing its approach to tariffs set to take effect on April 2, likely omitting a set of industry-specific tariffs while applying reciprocal levies on a targeted set of nations that account for the bulk of foreign trade with the U.S.

 

Of course.  Trump is a smart and shrewd business man.  He's not going to do anything stupid, and if one of his policies becomes clearly negative, he's obviously going to adjust.

 

I'm glad you're finally posting more positive news about Trump.  Good for you.  

[Pouatchee]

4 hours ago, simple1 said:

 

You need to look up forum rules before posting again. One's citizenship is irrelevant to respond to topics.

 

but it has everything to do about knowing the culture of a country first hand rather than speculating on what one reads on a forum or hears on mainstream news. 

[HappyExpat57]

5 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

Trump backpedals because he was not expecting the reaction. It isn't Trump, but the convicted felon Navarro who is behind this strategy. The man is a pariah amongst economists and now we see why.

 

The Mexicans have yet to respond to the Trump tariff threats and have been keeping their powder dry. They are a proud nation and when  Mexico retaliates, the US will feel  it. Canadians have  been working themselves into a frenzy, like a cuckolded lover.  It is something when national media are circulating  apps to  identify Canadian products and  most  everyone is avoiding US products and visits.

 

You really hit the nail on the head here, knocked it out of the park.

 

If one takes a moment and actually thinks about all these actions the convicted felon is taking, one would realize he doesn't have enough brains to power an ant's motorcycle around the inside of a Cheerio. HE'S not the one coming up with all these ideas. He's following orders from truly crafty, evil-minded White Christian Nationalists to demolish democracy and put in place a fascist regime. How many times did he say "I have no idea what Project 2025 is" and yet he's going right down its list of directions on how to dismantle the US government and put white Christian fundamentalists in its place.

 

Unfortunately, for most people around the world, thinking is not their strong suit.

[rough diamond]

7 hours ago, HappyExpat57 said:

Unfortunately, for most people around the world, thinking is not their strong suit.

Unfortunately, for  MAGA people around the world, thinking is not their strong suit.

They can only follow their moronic so called leader.

[cdemundo]

55 minutes ago, NoDisplayName said:

 

Googles is your friend.

Doge pokie bearie make ouchies!

 

Hegseth wants Pentagon to cut 8% from defense budget for each of the next 5 years

 

 

"Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth has directed the Pentagon to come up with plans to cut 8% from the defense budget in each of the next five years, according to sources familiar with his plans. The Defense Department expects to redirect those fund to other programs in the department that would be prioritized by President Trump. "

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hegseth-pentagon-8-percent-cuts-for-next-5-years/

 

I encourage you to take note of this:

"The Defense Department expects to redirect those funds to other programs in the department"

So not a reduction in the Defense Department budget.

 

In any event, there is a big gap between what Hegseth says he wants and anything being done.

 

Apparently Hegseth has been looking at programs in the HR department but weapons R&D is probably the place for big ticket wasteful items.

 

Evidence of business as usual: plans for development of a new manned fighter at a cost (estimate) of $100 to $300 million per plane

Seems to be extravagant, especially looking at the mixed evaluations of the pricy F35.

Musk (another stable genius) has stated that manned aircraft are obsolete with the rise of drones so why is another pricy manned aircraft being developed?

In the right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing department, apparently alienated (former) allies are rethinking aircraft purchase from the US so that will make it harder to finance this.

 

[frank83628]

1 hour ago, Dan O said:

No one was talking about Tesla so not sure why you threw that in there. Yeah there are radicals out there, always has been and always will be. They are not a significant quantity in numbers but the cultists will always over play them as leftist but they are more anarchist than left politically. 

 

 

The media didn't brand him, he branded himself with his comments and actions.

But I guess in true cultists thinking you have to find someone else to blame and then you can point the finger of where all the problems are

I previously mentioned Musk, so I t was relevant in my reply to you,

But NO, the media branded him a  Nazi, after he got a tad excited at the trump rally, the weak minded cultists like yourself lapped it up and do daily...

[placeholder]

1 hour ago, BangkokReady said:

 

Of course.  Trump is a smart and shrewd business man.  He's not going to do anything stupid, and if one of his policies becomes clearly negative, he's obviously going to adjust.

 

I'm glad you're finally posting more positive news about Trump.  Good for you.  

He's the guy who went bankrupt four times and destroyed his father's very successful real estate business. The only reason he could hold on to any of his money is because the bankruptcy laws in New York state  make it very difficult for banks to recover funds from deadbeats. But the New York banks have boycotted him ever since.

[The Old Bull]

It's very simple , Trump announces tariffs before hand. In doing so he makes enemies and he makes friends. When the count is in he decides which way to go. Of course a rich mans vote is always worth more than a poor mans vote but that is figured into the equation.

[jvs]

6 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

We know where you stand. 

 

I can wait until the tariff debacle shakes out before I pass judgement. 

 

So far, I am pretty happy with the way most everything else seems to be going. 

So do you think there will be hundreds of billions coming into the USA?

Did you already plan how to spent all that money?

You will be so rich you won't know what to do with all that money!

Are you going to buy a new Tesla and a Cybertruck?

[Dan O]

35 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

I previously mentioned Musk, so I t was relevant in my reply to you,

But NO, the media branded him a  Nazi, after he got a tad excited at the trump rally, the weak minded cultists like yourself lapped it up and do daily...

No one mentioned Tesla as I said.

 

He branded himself with his previous statements and also newer ones.  His overzealous salute brought it to the forefront. Do some real research and stop being a sheep and a knob.

 

I'm not a cultists in any form or fashion although you can not say the same truthfully. Im a realist and can easily see whats going on and are not encumbered to follow lock step with other sheep. 

[frank83628]

5 minutes ago, Dan O said:

No one mentioned Tesla as I said.

 

He branded himself with his previous statements and also newer ones.  His overzealous salute brought it to the forefront. Do some real research and stop being a sheep and a knob.

 

I'm not a cultists in any form or fashion although you can not say the same truthfully. Im a realist and can easily see whats going on and are not encumbered to follow lock step with other sheep. 

 

[simple1]

2 hours ago, Pouatchee said:

 

but it has everything to do about knowing the culture of a country first hand rather than speculating on what one reads on a forum or hears on mainstream news. 

 

By using this forum you agree to the rules. Also one has no knowledge of a member's experience of another country culture

[candide]

In the MAGA alternate universe, Trump backpedaling on promises he made, without thinking about possible consequences, becomes  "a smart move"! 🤣