14 hours ago, Real Name Hidden said:

When you appointment unqualified political hacks to these critical positions this is what you get.

 

 

Pistol Pete misses target.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMrVdFnjEjs&ab_channel=CNN

 

12 hours ago, RSD1 said:

Following is the information regarding the Signal group text messages published by The Atlantic. These messages, sent by Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth, contain specific operational details about U.S. military strikes against Houthi targets in Yemen. Below is a summary of the key messages attributed to Hegseth, based on the available sources, which outline the attack plans:

 

1. Message at 11:44 a.m. ET (March 15, 2025)

Text: “TEAM UPDATE: TIME NOW (1144et): Weather is FAVORABLE. Just CONFIRMED w/CENTCOM we are a GO for mission launch.”

 

Translation and Breakdown:

 

“TEAM UPDATE”: Indicates this is a status report intended for a group, likely including advisers or confidants Hegseth was briefing outside official channels.

“TIME NOW (1144et)”: Specifies the exact time of the update—11:44 a.m. Eastern Time—serving as a timestamp for operational synchronization.

“Weather is FAVORABLE”: Weather conditions (e.g., visibility, wind, cloud cover) are suitable for the planned air and missile strikes. Weather is critical for aviation and precision-guided munitions, suggesting conditions won’t delay the mission.

“Just CONFIRMED w/CENTCOM”: Hegseth has directly communicated with U.S. Central Command (CENTCOM), the military command overseeing operations in the Middle East, including Yemen. This implies he received real-time authorization or updates from the operational authority.

“we are a GO for mission launch”: The mission has been officially approved to proceed (“green light”). In military terms, “go/no-go” is a decision point; here, it’s a “go,” meaning all prerequisites (e.g., intelligence, logistics, weather) are met.

 

Definition in Context: This is the initial confirmation of the strike’s feasibility and authorization. It sets the stage for the detailed timeline that follows, showing Hegseth’s access to high-level decision-making and his intent to relay this to the group.

 

2. Timeline Message – 1345 (1:45 p.m. ET)

Text: “1345: ‘Trigger Based’ F-18 1st Strike Window Starts (Target Terrorist is @ his Known Location so SHOULD BE ON TIME – also, Strike Drones Launch (MQ-9s))”

 

Translation and Breakdown:

 

“1345”: The military uses a 24-hour clock; this is 1:45 p.m. ET, marking the start of the first operational phase.

“‘Trigger Based’”: Indicates the strike is contingent on a specific condition or event (the “trigger”), likely the confirmed presence of the target. This suggests flexibility—if the trigger isn’t met, the strike might shift.

“F-18 1st Strike Window Starts”: F/A-18 Hornet jets, carrier-based fighter-bombers, begin their attack window at this time. A “strike window” is the timeframe during which the aircraft can engage, based on fuel, positioning, and target availability.

“Target Terrorist is @ his Known Location”: The primary target, referred to as the “Target Terrorist,” is at a predetermined site, likely identified through intelligence (e.g., signals or human intel). This is a high-value individual, possibly a Houthi leader.

“so SHOULD BE ON TIME”: Hegseth expects the strike to proceed as scheduled, barring unforeseen changes (e.g., the target moving).

“also, Strike Drones Launch (MQ-9s)”: Simultaneously, MQ-9 Reaper drones—unmanned aircraft capable of precision strikes—launch. This indicates a layered attack, combining manned jets and drones for redundancy or multiple targets.

 

Definition in Context: This outlines the opening salvo of the attack, a coordinated strike using F-18 jets and MQ-9 drones, targeting a specific individual. The “trigger-based” nature suggests real-time intelligence is driving the timing, a common tactic in counterterrorism operations.

 

3. Timeline Message – 1410 (2:10 p.m. ET)

Text: “1410: More F-18s LAUNCH (2nd strike package)”

 

Translation and Breakdown:

 

“1410”: 2:10 p.m. ET, 25 minutes after the first strike window opens.

“More F-18s LAUNCH”: A second wave of F-18 jets takes off, likely from a carrier (e.g., in the Red Sea or Arabian Sea). “Launch” here means departure from the base or carrier, not necessarily striking yet.

“(2nd strike package)”: A “strike package” is a group of aircraft and munitions tailored for a specific mission segment. This implies a phased approach—different from the first wave, possibly targeting additional sites or providing backup.

 

Definition in Context: This escalates the operation with a second wave of manned aircraft, suggesting either a broader target set or reinforcement for the initial strike. It indicates sustained pressure rather than a single hit.

 

4. Timeline Message – 1415 (2:15 p.m. ET)

Text: “1415: Strike Drones on Target (THIS IS WHEN THE FIRST BOMBS WILL DEFINITELY DROP, pending earlier ‘Trigger Based’ targets)”

 

Translation and Breakdown:

 

“1415”: 2:15 p.m. ET, five minutes after the second F-18 launch.

“Strike Drones on Target”: The MQ-9 drones, launched at 1:45 p.m., reach their targets and are in position to strike. “On target” means they’re over the designated area, ready to engage.

“THIS IS WHEN THE FIRST BOMBS WILL DEFINITELY DROP”: Hegseth emphasizes this as the guaranteed start of kinetic action (bombing), contrasting it with the earlier “trigger-based” flexibility.

“pending earlier ‘Trigger Based’ targets”: If the trigger condition was met before 2:15 p.m., bombs might have dropped earlier; otherwise, this is the fixed start time.

Definition in Context: This marks the definitive onset of the attack, with drones delivering the first confirmed strikes. It resolves the uncertainty of the “trigger-based” window, ensuring the operation is underway by this point.

 

5. Timeline Message – 1536 (3:36 p.m. ET)

Text: “1536 F-18 2nd Strike Starts – also, first sea-based Tomahawks launched”

 

Translation and Breakdown:

 

“1536”: 3:36 p.m. ET, over an hour after the first bombs drop.

“F-18 2nd Strike Starts”: The second wave of F-18s, launched at 2:10 p.m., begins engaging targets. Transit time (about 86 minutes) suggests targets are within a few hundred miles of the launch point, consistent with Yemen from a naval carrier.

“also, first sea-based Tomahawks launched”: Tomahawk cruise missiles, fired from ships or submarines (e.g., destroyers in the Red Sea), are introduced. These are long-range, precision weapons often used against fixed targets like command centers or infrastructure.

Definition in Context: This phase escalates the attack with the second F-18 wave and introduces sea-based missiles, indicating a mix of tactical (F-18s, drones) and strategic (Tomahawks) strikes. It suggests a multi-pronged assault, possibly hitting both the “Target Terrorist” and Houthi facilities.

 

6. Additional Note

Text: “We are currently clean on OPSEC”

 

Translation and Breakdown:

 

“We are currently clean”: Hegseth believes there are no security breaches or leaks compromising the mission at that moment.

“on OPSEC”: Short for “operational security,” a military principle to protect sensitive information (e.g., plans, timing) from adversaries. Ironically, this is stated while sharing details in a chat that included a journalist.

 

Definition in Context: This reflects Hegseth’s confidence that the operation remains secure, despite his own actions undermining that security by sharing specifics in an unsecured forum.

 

Overall Interpretation as “War Plans” or “Attack Plans” - These messages collectively constitute a detailed operational timeline for a military strike, specifying:

Assets: F-18 jets, MQ-9 drones, and Tomahawk missiles—standard U.S. hardware for precision strikes.

 

Timing: A phased approach from 1:45 p.m. to 3:36 p.m. ET, with contingencies (“trigger-based”) and fixed points.

 

Target: A high-value individual (“Target Terrorist”) and likely additional Houthi infrastructure (implied by Tomahawks).

 

Coordination: Direct input from CENTCOM, showing Hegseth’s role as a conduit between military command and his group.

 

These details were published by The Atlantic on March 26, 2025, in an article titled “Here Are the Attack Plans That Trump’s Advisers Shared on Signal,” authored by Jeffrey Goldberg and Shane Harris. The publication followed denials from Hegseth and other Trump administration officials, who claimed no “war plans” or classified information were shared. The Atlantic released the messages to counter these assertions, arguing that the public interest justified disclosure, especially given the administration’s attempts to downplay the incident.

 

The messages provide a real-time breakdown of the strike timeline, including aircraft types (F-18 jets, MQ-9 drones), missile systems (Tomahawks), and the targeting of a specific individual referred to as the “Target Terrorist.”

That was definitely, 100% classified information, in many countries Hapless Hesgeth would now be facing a firing squad, at the very minimum he should be fired and imprisoned. Of course that won't happen because Trump truly believes that he's above any and all laws. 

10 hours ago, mogandave said:

All the sudden the left is demanding people be fired. 

 

You’re so pathetically predictable. 

No what is really pathetic and very predictable is the right coming to the defense of people who have committed egregious errors, compromised the nation's security and done far worse than what Hillary did with her email servers, and yet nobody is willing to hold anyone to task for this. This is so typical of Trump and his groupies, it is truly getting to the point where it's a pathetic level of fealty, on a daily basis. 

 

Anyone will now say anything to excuse the mistakes, the confusion, and the bad behavior. Where is the dignity in that, and why the complete unwillingness to be critical? 

54 minutes ago, mogandave said:

Have you no brains? 

 

Your seething hate for Trump and the US has blinded you. 

 

To appease the Iran, Biden took the Houthis off the terrorist watch list, and let them attack American ships over 100 times. 

 

Trump put the Houthis back on the terrorism watch list, and is killing them. 

 

Oh no, a “journalist” was accidentally added to the call, let’s fire everyone and go back to appeasing Iran.  

 

 

From Wikipedia:

President Joe Biden ordered the strikes, and UK Prime Minister Rishi Sunak convened his cabinet to authorize British participation.[19][20] American officials said the strikes were intended to degrade Houthi capabilities to attack Red Sea targets rather than to kill leaders and Iranian trainers.[18][21]

As of 2 January 2025, the Houthis recorded 931 American and British airstrikes against its sites in Yemen, resulting in 106 deaths and 314 injuries.

 

White House Gets a Surprise Guest After Child Slips Through Fence

 

Nothing says "strong defense" more than a fence that can't even stop a toddler.

 

Go MAGA!

 

Blow your kidneys out on space radiation on the way to Mars 😂

57 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

That was definitely, 100% classified information, in many countries Hapless Hesgeth would now be facing a firing squad, at the very minimum he should be fired and imprisoned. Of course that won't happen because Trump truly believes that he's above any and all laws. 

How was it Hegseth’s fault?

49 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

No what is really pathetic and very predictable is the right coming to the defense of people who have committed egregious errors, compromised the nation's security and done far worse than what Hillary did with her email servers, and yet nobody is willing to hold anyone to task for this. This is so typical of Trump and his groupies, it is truly getting to the point where it's a pathetic level of fealty, on a daily basis. 

 

Anyone will now say anything to excuse the mistakes, the confusion, and the bad behavior. Where is the dignity in that, and why the complete unwillingness to be critical? 

How is it worse? 

 

I’m not defending a boneheaded mistake, but the strikes were successful and the leak had no negative impact. 

 

Clinton on the other hand, gave Chinese hackers thousands of emails, hundreds of which were classified. We have no idea what the result of that was, or may be. 

 

 

14 hours ago, dinsdale said:

So no coordinates or targets mentioned? Not an attack plan.

absolutely total absurd ....lets debate whether the sun comes up in the east ....oh wait..what do you mean by east, what is meant by the sun, what does comes up mean...east of where?  

 

once again....if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck it is probably a duck...

 

even most magas know damn well that it was an attack plan which is why most of them are hiding under their desks and trying to figure a way to claim well it wasn't a "war plan"...it was just an attack plan.

 

 

16 hours ago, b17 said:

Although nobody expects any accountability, Trump and his fascist friends will gradually come to the realization that the American people aren't quite as stupid as they believe. Pretty much everyone in the US is either friendly with or related to a person who has served in some capacity within the US military, and if you randomly asked ANY of those people, they would tell you that 

all of those sycophants running those departments should be fired and charged with disclosing top secret information. 

The penalties for disclosing Top Secret information outside approved US government channels include fines of up to US$250K and ten years in prison, under section 798 of Title 18, the United States Code federal criminal code."

 

The Teflon Don is an expert at wiggling out of tricky situations, but I'm not convinced he and his moronic officials will get away with this one. 

 

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Comrade Don is now untouchable courtesy of the Supreme Court, the others will simply be thrown under the bus, trying to run a country by social media is bound to fail.

2 hours ago, mogandave said:

How was it Hegseth’s fault?

Did you forget that he's defense secretary? Doesn't the buck have to stop somewhere, or does that not apply to this administration? Wouldn't he be essentially the overseer for this type of communication? Many of his communications were included in these messages, don't you think that he has some responsibility for this massive breach of security? 

4 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

Did you forget that he's defense secretary? Doesn't the buck have to stop somewhere, or does that not apply to this administration? Wouldn't he be essentially the overseer for this type of communication? Many of his communications were included in these messages, don't you think that he has some responsibility for this massive breach of security? 

So you have no idea, thanks. 

 

Who was hurt?

8 minutes ago, mogandave said:

So you have no idea, thanks. 

 

Who was hurt?

The whole notion of US ' intelligence ' was hurt. 

Talking about operations about to happen on mobile phones, one in Russia and one in Saudi. 

The world is laughing at the US government incompetence and stupidity.

From the chat transcript:

VP (Vance): I understand your concerns – and fully support you raising w/ POTUS.
Important considerations, most of which are tough to know how they play out (economy, Ukraine peace, Gaza, etc).

I think messaging is going to be tough no matter what – nobody knows who the Houthis are – which is why we would need to stay focused on: 1) Biden failed & 2) Iran funded. Waiting a few weeks or a month does not fundamentally change the calculus.

17 hours ago, MalcolmB said:

What do get when you cross Donald Trump with a duck? 

Someone who is quackers?

Just go to the dark web and you will be surprised what is available there.

18 minutes ago, phetphet said:

Someone who is quackers?

 

 

An overweight bird that poops all over everything then waddles off?

 

 

 

 

 

 

Somehow once again an incompetent horrible idiot  person managed to  convince one of Trumps top so called expert to add him to a chat list.  Gee how did such an idiot pull that off?

 

Reminds me again of how that ole incompetent sleepy joe somehow managed to rig an entire election and leave zero evidence. Gee how did such an idiot pull that off?

 

Wow maybe that is why trump loves to appoint incompetent people to top positions hoping that they will also some how pull off miracles. 

 

So far all they have pulled off is a veil that allows the world to see how totally incompetent they are in their jobs....want to eliminate fraud and abuse? Fire all of these clowns.

14 minutes ago, pomchop said:

Somehow once again an incompetent horrible idiot  person managed to  convince one of Trumps top so called expert to add him to a chat list.  Gee how did such an idiot pull that off?

 

Reminds me again of how that ole incompetent sleepy joe somehow managed to rig an entire election and leave zero evidence. Gee how did such an idiot pull that off?

 

Wow maybe that is why trump loves to appoint incompetent people to top positions hoping that they will also some how pull off miracles. 

 

The reason Trump 2.0 exclusively appoints spineless incompetent clowns is that every single person who was even semi-competent and who had even a semblance of a spine turned on him during the 1.0 s**t show. Every....single....one.

Did you guys feel that? it was caused phone leak…

1 hour ago, bannork said:

The whole notion of US ' intelligence ' was hurt. 

Talking about operations about to happen on mobile phones, one in Russia and one in Saudi. 

The world is laughing at the US government incompetence and stupidity.

That has been happening for 8 years

1 hour ago, bannork said:

The whole notion of US ' intelligence ' was hurt. 

Talking about operations about to happen on mobile phones, one in Russia and one in Saudi. 

The world is laughing at the US government incompetence and stupidity.

You mean the same system the Biden administration used? 

 

Too funny 

Trump should be made to resign!!!

All the sudden the left is worried about the world laughing. 

 

f’n hypocrites 

7 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

No what is really pathetic and very predictable is the right coming to the defense of people who have committed egregious errors, compromised the nation's security and done far worse than what Hillary did with her email servers, and yet nobody is willing to hold anyone to task for this. This is so typical of Trump and his groupies, it is truly getting to the point where it's a pathetic level of fealty, on a daily basis. 

 

Anyone will now say anything to excuse the mistakes, the confusion, and the bad behavior. Where is the dignity in that, and why the complete unwillingness to be critical? 

Cult 101...never ever criticize dear leader ever ever ever

2 hours ago, mogandave said:

All the sudden the left is worried about the world laughing. 

 

f’n hypocrites 

The world, including its left wingers, was laughing about Biden, obviously senile, being in charge of the US.

Couldn't a country of 340 million people find someone better to be in charge? 

But no! He's replaced by an egomaniac, narcissistic idiot whose sole criteria for service in his admin is undying loyalty to him whatever lies and lunacy he sprouts.

Low, low quality all round in this current US admin. 

 

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18 minutes ago, bannork said:

The world, including its left wingers, was laughing about Biden, obviously senile, being in charge of the US.

Couldn't a country of 340 million people find someone better to be in charge? 

But no! He's replaced by an egomaniac, narcissistic idiot whose sole criteria for service in his admin is undying loyalty to him whatever lies and lunacy he sprouts.

Low, low quality all round in this current US admin. 

 

BS. Biden was the greatest statesman in the history of the world until the debate. 

 

f’n hypocrites 

20 hours ago, frank83628 said:

That was the lamest attempt at trying to make a name sound Russian.... what a whopper. I'm sure it sounded funnier in your head.

Just as another thread says, all you have is to label everyone Nazis or Russian assets.... and look where its got you so far, you/democrats lost EVERYTHING, have no leadership, nothing, Nada,

 

Newsflash: nobody's winning. This administration is about as trustworthy as a screen door on a submarine, and both parties are too busy dunking on each other to realize the whole ship is sinking. Leadership? Nonexistent. Policies? A mess. Accountability? LOL. But sure, keep pretending one side’s total dysfunction somehow cancels out the other’s. Meanwhile, the rest of us are just trying to survive the fallout of this clown show

4 hours ago, jerrymahoney said:

From the chat transcript:

VP (Vance): I understand your concerns – and fully support you raising w/ POTUS.
Important considerations, most of which are tough to know how they play out (economy, Ukraine peace, Gaza, etc).

I think messaging is going to be tough no matter what – nobody knows who the Houthis are – which is why we would need to stay focused on: 1) Biden failed & 2) Iran funded. Waiting a few weeks or a month does not fundamentally change the calculus.

Many of us knew this Administration was weak and that these selections were terrible, but now we have written proof. How about that? 

 i would bet that millions of americans, many who voted for trump, will be having some serious discussions around the kitchen table this weekend to discuss their dwindling 401 k and stock portfolios along with overall worries about their future....trump has caused chaos on steroids which is ok if you are a billionaire and can buy in a depressed market and just sit tight til it all eventually goes up ...not so easy if your 100 k in portfolio is now at 60 k or less and you are worried that it will get even worse 

 

April 2 is supposedly the big trump day when he will unveil who the f knows what that may well send the markets into a major tailspin and wipe a few more trillion out of middle class peoples accounts....or maybe he will announce oh no tariffs at all i was just kidding...to which other countries may well reply sorry donald we took you seriously and have alread made deals with other countries to buy and sell what we need to do.

 

markets hate uncertainty and trump and his incompetent minions are the very definition of chaos and uncertainty....

 

lets see how many magas are still flying their maga flags when and if they lose half or more of their life savings...when their medicaid and maybe social security gets cut, when their neighbors get laid off from their jobs, car prices shoot up, when their prescription prices quadruple....and while we are at it lets eliminate more national park employees so that campground u loved is now dirty or closed...oh and that college down the road that lost all it's research funding also has to close down...heck lets also close the local libraries as i heard there was a book there called the gay dolphin...but not to worry musk will still be running around with his chainsaw and trump will be playing golf and going to sporting events and sitting on his gold toilets...tired of winning yet?

 

enjoy