The Trump administration believes it has the legal authority to abduct any individual—citizen or immigrant, documented or not—and illegally deport them to another country without due process. It further claims that it can extinguish all of that person’s constitutional rights by imprisoning them in a foreign nation. And it asserts that once that person has been locked away abroad, the U.S. government has no power or responsibility to bring them home, even if they were indisputably deported in error

https://archive.ph/761pv

If you want to read about disappearing, pick up the book "Say Nothing."

 

https://www.amazon.com/Say-Nothing-Patrick-Radden-Keefe-audiobook/dp/B07MHXYD12/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2KWHLVRZNY7Q&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.OFGKCGMogbcBOJv21GIx6OW3z_8ga9nGR2IzH9Mt93yu8ZuGKZHJl9lr7SlbAY2VdULEcV_kWCn2gJBzA7AJutfj0gdHpELdJ87AjSZ9yAynE8SX07ULJkzwVEPx-peqGGdOyBmThzvl2LwpBCbTBSwP3oMNcPis-5nRR9KNgIn1VPRIBvc1mJpp9_tSsBsn6Em7KVlrus2587nqijas96cwN7R6jOiegzLYueVuHg8.-JE_zPJqpRKDn2Mdeg18h3PLc9HXvZ3ooaslcHJ6H-w&dib_tag=se&keywords=Say+Nothing&qid=1744067386&sprefix=say+nothing%2Caps%2C105&sr=8-1

 

 

So no different than china then, your favorite country

 

Great news start with the South African mongol 🤔

1 minute ago, hotsun said:

So no different than china then, your favorite country

Russia?

Just now, sammieuk1 said:

Great news start with the South African mongol 🤔

Who is that?

43 minutes ago, hotsun said:

So no different than china then, your favorite country

The OP is about Trump and America not China or Russia. Nice try at gaslighting the conversation. Try staying on topic even if the facts show the truth you refuse to admit.

1 minute ago, Dan O said:

The OP is about Trump and America not China or Russia. Nice try at gaslighting the conversation. Try staying on topic even if the facts show the truth you refuse to admit.

Nothing you guys say is ever true, thats why you LOST

not trusting the source

 

https://www.allsides.com/news-source/slate

9 minutes ago, Dan O said:

The OP is about Trump and America not China or Russia. Nice try at gaslighting the conversation. Try staying on topic even if the facts show the truth you refuse to admit.

Using the term "disappeared" is disingenuous.   

33 minutes ago, hotsun said:

Nothing you guys say is ever true, thats why you LOST

You hate when facts get in your way of continuing to live in your delusional world. When confronted with facts you post nonsense as a way to avoid what's really going on. Use your brain or have you lost it completely?

27 minutes ago, Mike_Hunt said:

Using the term "disappeared" is disingenuous.   

I believe the word is very accurate in the context of what is outlined by trump and his admin. If you have a better word that's accurate feel free to use it but you need to ask yourself how honest you are being about what's really going on and the massive impact trump's craziness is having on the US and the inflation, world economics, global supply chains, foreign relations, human rights, and world governmental power structures. Do you have any moral character and compass, or do you truly not care? Ask yourself

1 hour ago, hotsun said:

So no different than china then, your favorite country

Because if someone disapproves of Trump's policies, then China must be their favorite? Let me share with you a bit of evidence to show how false your comment is:

 

 

What a bunch of lies by the OP

2 hours ago, placeholder said:

The Trump administration believes it has the legal authority to abduct any individual—citizen or immigrant, documented or not—and illegally deport them to another country without due process. It further claims that it can extinguish all of that person’s constitutional rights by imprisoning them in a foreign nation. And it asserts that once that person has been locked away abroad, the U.S. government has no power or responsibility to bring them home, even if they were indisputably deported in error

https://archive.ph/761pv

Did that come to you in a dream? You should team up with Geller.

2 hours ago, placeholder said:

The Trump administration believes it has the legal authority to abduct any individual—citizen or immigrant, documented or not—and illegally deport them to another country without due process. It further claims that it can extinguish all of that person’s constitutional rights by imprisoning them in a foreign nation. And it asserts that once that person has been locked away abroad, the U.S. government has no power or responsibility to bring them home, even if they were indisputably deported in error

https://archive.ph/761pv

 

You should make clear that this all relates to deportation of alleged Central American gang members, especially those from San Salvador, using the Alien Enemies Act of 1798. I suspect there are many who would think that deporting gang members is not a bad thing. 

 

https://www.npr.org/2025/04/07/nx-s1-5345601/supreme-court-alien-enemies-act

 

 

1 hour ago, hotsun said:

Nothing you guys say is ever true, thats why you LOST

I seen so many posts about Trump, breathlessly claiming to be the "one" that got Trump, and all turned out to be nonsense. It's been going on since 2015.

 

Nothing new here.

 

Next.

4 minutes ago, BKKBike09 said:

 

You should make clear that this all relates to deportation of alleged Central American gang members, especially those from San Salvador, using the Alien Enemies Act of 1798. I suspect there are many who would think that deporting gang members is not a bad thing. 

 

https://www.npr.org/2025/04/07/nx-s1-5345601/supreme-court-alien-enemies-act

 

 

As if that would happen? That would give the game away. Seems that when it's Trump, truth flies out the window.

 

PS. Deporting gang members is only to be applauded. Never letting them come back even more so.

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Did that come to you in a dream? You should team up with Geller.

Its  from the legal argument presented to the Supreme Court yesterday. It stems from the deportation order under the Aliens Enemies Act used earlier this year and the deportation of a legal alien which they admit was an error.

Trumps admin is arguing that they can tag anyone as an illegal alien or terrorist and not have to prove it in court in other the other connected case.

 

In this Supreme Court Case  they are claiming once removed to a black site or foreign country they are not legally required to repatriate that person. 

 

Facts just keep getting in the way of many on this forum. 

1 hour ago, BKKBike09 said:

 

You should make clear that this all relates to deportation of alleged Central American gang members, especially those from San Salvador, using the Alien Enemies Act of 1798. I suspect there are many who would think that deporting gang members is not a bad thing. 

 

https://www.npr.org/2025/04/07/nx-s1-5345601/supreme-court-alien-enemies-act

 

 

No it actually relates to a legal alien that was deported in error. They admit it was an error but they are arguing they have no responsibility to repatriate anyone removed to a foreign country or black site.

 

This action couple with the recently used Alien Enemies Act to deport anyone deemed an Alien Enemy being argued in other cases creates a scary scenario where anyone can be tagged as an enemy and there will be no due process in court.  The group deported already were never proven to be connected to any gangs. While many probably were gang members there were a number that very well may not have been and they admitted that already

1 hour ago, Yagoda said:

Well the truth and the facts arent set forth in the OP, are they? Just a typical sad little hate ridden flame from you again.

 

 

Read the link the facts are there. The Supreme Court ruled on the case yesterday. Do some real research and you would know all this already but instead you only listen to the propaganda put out by Trump and his minions which is seldom close to reality.

22 minutes ago, Dan O said:

The Supreme Court ruled on the case yesterday

You havent read it, and even if you did, you couldnt interpret it.

15 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

You havent read it, and even if you did, you couldnt interpret it.

So what evidence do you have that you've read it, and that even if you did, you could interpret it. Or are you just projecting?

5 hours ago, Mike_Hunt said:

Who is that?

 

1 hour ago, Dan O said:

No it actually relates to a legal alien that was deported in error. They admit it was an error but they are arguing they have no responsibility to repatriate anyone removed to a foreign country or black site.

 

This action couple with the recently used Alien Enemies Act to deport anyone deemed an Alien Enemy being argued in other cases creates a scary scenario where anyone can be tagged as an enemy and there will be no due process in court.  The group deported already were never proven to be connected to any gangs. While many probably were gang members there were a number that very well may not have been and they admitted that already

 

Let's not gloss over the facts that the 'Legal Alien' to whom you and the OP's article refer wasn't some person who got randomly picked up a few weeks ago and shipped off to a max security prison in El Salvador.

 

Kilmar Armando Abrego Garcia is a native and citizen of El Salvador who entered the US illegally 'sometime around 2011'. In March 2019 he was arrested in Maryland with three other men. "Ensuing proceedings established that Abrego Garcia was a ranking member of the deadly MS-13 gang and thus presented a danger to the community". At an immigration hearing in 2019, DHS presented evidence that Abrego Garcia had been “arrested in the company of other ranking gang members”  and the Immigration Judge specifically cited “the fact that a ‘past, proven, and reliable source of information’ [had] verified [Abrego Garcia’s] gang membership, rank, and gang name.” In October 2019, after Abrego Garcia had “conceded his removability as charged”, an immigration judge ordered Abrego Garcia’s removal from the United States ...

 

So this guy should really have been sent back years ago and has been living on borrowed time. The complication was that the immigration judge also said he could not be sent back to El Salvador because he might be persecuted by a rival gang - the judge did not say he could not be deported.

 

It's all in the court docket.

 

https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/24/24A949/354843/20250407103341248_Kristi Noem application.pdf

 

This all reminds me of the bleeding hearts in UK who bemoaned the fatal police shooting of Chris Kaba, portrayed by them as an innocent victim of police brutality as opposed to a gang member who'd recently shot another person in a crowded nightclub (caught on CCTV), amongst other crimes and misdemeanours.

I am above the law, I've always been above the law, I've been committing crimes and fraud for 50 years and nobody's ever caught up with me. I can do anything I want as I've stated in the past I could shoot someone on 5th Avenue and nobody would do anything.

 

So I think I'm just going to start disappearing my enemies like my buddy Vlad does. Why not? They don't like me, they dare to criticize the king, and they disappear. So simple, I'm just going to use the recipe that my old friends in the New York mafia used to. 

 

Since I have absolutely nothing in the way of Integrity nor a moral compass, I just can't think of any reasons why not to do this. Fun, fun. 

10 minutes ago, Dan O said:

You say the stupidist sh!t trying to gaslight and deflect from facts when you are shown to be ignorant of facts.

Thats fine, but you still havent read it and if you had, you dont understand it.

5 hours ago, hotsun said:

Nothing you guys say is ever true, thats why you LOST

one has to wonder if something like that would happened to one of your relatives/family member and/or good friends (if you have any) what would be your reaction, maybe you would blame it on the Dems, would that be your excuse