Gaza Paramedics Shot ‘With Intent to Kill,’ Red Crescent Demands International Probe

[Bkk Brian]

11 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

 

With good reason, don't you think?

Hamas thinks so. As do you. You asked me what I think before then dismissed what I think so enough of the baiting. My views are already posted 

[Nick Carter icp]

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Where the lights of the ambulances in which the paramedics gunned down by the IDF were slaughtered illuminated or not?

 

Did the IDF lie about that or not?

 

Is the call by the Red Crescent for an international investigation into these killings reasonable or not?

 

 

 

  Makes no difference , Palestinians have previously used ambulances to transport their members and weapons .

  IDF shouldn't take any chances and view them as potential  enemy combatants and act accordingly . 

   Palestinians  commit war crimes by using ambulances to transport terrorists and these are the results 

[josephbloggs]

On 4/8/2025 at 6:26 PM, Nick Carter icp said:

 

  Nope . 

Going by facts .

Hamas regularly use ambulances as cover and to hide from the IDF and use ambulance as military vehicles .

  Ambulance then lose their protection from attack .

There may or may not have been terrorists in that actual ambulance , but because Hamas has previously used ambulances as military vehicles to transport its terrorists .

   You can understand the IDF not taking any chances  an regarding the ambulance as an enemy military vehicle  and treating it as such

 

Right, so they should immediately start shooting at the ambulances and continue for several minutes. And then check. And then lie about it.

 

[Nick Carter icp]

1 minute ago, josephbloggs said:

 

Right, so they should immediately start shooting at the ambulances and continue for several minutes. And then check. And then lie about it.

 

 

  War isn't very nice and people get killed .

A potential threat is kill or be killed .

Ask questions later 

[josephbloggs]

4 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

  War isn't very nice and people get killed .

A potential threat is kill or be killed .

Ask questions later 

Ambulances. Nobody armed. Ambulances. With lights on. With no weapons. Ambulances, attending a call out.

If you think that's in any way justifiable then you are either cruel or an idiot, or both.

Nasty things happen in war, that's why we have independent councils to look at them. Not for the IDF though, they just lie and idiots believe them.

[Nick Carter icp]

1 hour ago, josephbloggs said:

Ambulances. Nobody armed. Ambulances. With lights on. With no weapons. Ambulances, attending a call out.

If you think that's in any way justifiable then you are either cruel or an idiot, or both.

Nasty things happen in war, that's why we have independent councils to look at them. Not for the IDF though, they just lie and idiots believe them.

 

   Palestinians have a history of using ambulances to attack the IDF .

The IDF were involved in a firefight with Hamas and numerous Hamas were killed in the process . 

    Three Palestinian vehicles arrive at the scene , thay could be Hamas back up 

    Better to kill them all , rather than take a chance .

Kill or be killed 

[Eloquent pilgrim]

11 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Where the lights of the ambulances in which the paramedics gunned down by the IDF were slaughtered illuminated or not?

 

Did the IDF lie about that or not?

 

Is the call by the Red Crescent for an international investigation into these killings reasonable or not?

 

 

 

 

“Where the lights of the ambulances in which the paramedics gunned down by the IDF were slaughtered illuminated or not?”

 

….. almost certainly, Hamas are very adept at making their deceptions and disguises seem authentic; when the terrorists dress as doctors, they always have a mandatory stethoscope and fake medical ID card.

 

“Did the IDF lie about that or not?”

 

…. probably; and that’s because of people like yourself that refer to Hamas terrorists as “Gazans” because you cannot bring yourselves to call them what they really are, and that buy into every terrorist deception because you want to believe the terrorists propaganda to satisfy your thinly veiled antisemitism.

 

 

“Is the call by the Red Crescent for an international investigation into these killings reasonable or not?”

 

…… How can an international investigation take place in Gaza without it being under the direct control of the terrorists of Hamas, and who would conduct it ? The Hamas affiliated UNWRA, the Hamas affiliated Palestinian Red Crescent, the institutionally antisemitic UN ? …. maybe Hezbollah could lend a hand; oh, wait a minute, I don’t think they’ve got many left 😬

 

 

[Peterphuket]

16 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

War is even dirtier when one side uses ambulances to transport their terrorists around, and transport the innocent hostages they kidnapped. War is also dirtier when they also use hospital facilities to have their compounds and control centers. War is very dirty when one side deliberately uses Gazans as human sacrifice and the leaders are happy to state this publicly to then utilize the civilian casualties in their propaganda. 

And everyone seems to conveniently forget that it started opm7 October 2023, murder, rape and everything against humanity, all at the behest of Iran.

[Chomper Higgot]

10 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

  Makes no difference , Palestinians have previously used ambulances to transport their members and weapons .

  IDF shouldn't take any chances and view them as potential  enemy combatants and act accordingly . 

   Palestinians  commit war crimes by using ambulances to transport terrorists and these are the results 

That doesn’t explain the lies and burying the evidence.

 

What it is however is an excuse offered for a possible war crime.

 

An international investigation would be an opportunity to offer that excuse and any other evidence surrounding the accusation of a war crime.

 

Nothing to hide, nothing to fear.

 

 

 

 

 

[Bkk Brian]

4 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

That doesn’t explain the lies and burying the evidence.

 

What it is however is an excuse offered for a possible war crime.

 

An international investigation would be an opportunity to offer that excuse and any other evidence surrounding the accusation of a war crime.

 

Nothing to hide, nothing to fear.

 

 

Burying evidence? 

 

It was the IDF who informed the UN where the bodies were and they were buried because of the real possibility that dogs would eat them as has been happening with bodies in Gaza. 

[stevenl]

6 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

That doesn’t explain the lies and burying the evidence.

 

What it is however is an excuse offered for a possible war crime.

 

An international investigation would be an opportunity to offer that excuse and any other evidence surrounding the accusation of a war crime.

 

Nothing to hide, nothing to fear.

 

 

 

 

 

Israel will never agree. Many things to hide.

[Chomper Higgot]

53 minutes ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

 

 

“Where the lights of the ambulances in which the paramedics gunned down by the IDF were slaughtered illuminated or not?”

 

….. almost certainly, Hamas are very adept at making their deceptions and disguises seem authentic; when the terrorists dress as doctors, they always have a mandatory stethoscope and fake medical ID card.

 

“Did the IDF lie about that or not?”

 

…. probably; and that’s because of people like yourself that refer to Hamas terrorists as “Gazans” because you cannot bring yourselves to call them what they really are, and that buy into every terrorist deception because you want to believe the terrorists propaganda to satisfy your thinly veiled antisemitism.

 

 

“Is the call by the Red Crescent for an international investigation into these killings reasonable or not?”

 

…… How can an international investigation take place in Gaza without it being under the direct control of the terrorists of Hamas, and who would conduct it ? The Hamas affiliated UNWRA, the Hamas affiliated Palestinian Red Crescent, the institutionally antisemitic UN ? …. maybe Hezbollah could lend a hand; oh, wait a minute, I don’t think they’ve got many left 😬

 

 

Utter nonsense.

 

Zero evidence has been provided of these Paramedics being Hamas terrorists in disguise.

 

The IDF didn’t ‘Probably lie’  about this slaughter of paramedics, they absolutely did lie.

 

An international investigation does not need to take place within Gaza. 

 

Can you please provide evidence of your repeated claim of The Red Crescent being affiliated to Hamas.

 

 

[Bkk Brian]

Just now, Chomper Higgot said:

Utter nonsense.

 

Zero evidence has been provided of these Paramedics being Hamas terrorists in disguise.

 

The IDF didn’t ‘Probability about this slaughter of paramedics, they absolutely did lie.

 

An international investigation does not need to take place within Gaza. 

 

Can you please provide evidence of your repeated claim of The Red Crescent being affiliated to Hamas.

 

 

Zero evidence has been provided of these Paramedics being Hamas terrorists in disguise.

 

Patience.........

 

In the initial findings from its investigation of the incident, the military asserted that at least six of those killed had been posthumously identified as Hamas operatives. It has not yet named the operatives, and is expected to do so only once its probe is concluded.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/red-crescent-says-autopsies-show-slain-gaza-medics-were-shot-with-intent-to-kill/

[Chomper Higgot]

20 minutes ago, Peterphuket said:

And everyone seems to conveniently forget that it started opm7 October 2023, murder, rape and everything against humanity, all at the behest of Iran.

I doubt anybody forgets those heinous crimes.

 

They are however not part of the events under discussion.

 

Let’s be very clear, no heinous war crime is any justification for another.

 

 

[Chomper Higgot]

19 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Israel will never agree. Many things to hide.

Very clearly the IDF lied about the circumstances of the slaughter of these Paramedics and have yet to provide information on the one Paramedic who remains missing.

 

They, the IDF,  clearly lack any credibility to undertake an investigation or play any party in an investigation other than as subjects of an investigation into a probable war crime.

 

 

[Bkk Brian]

45 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I doubt anybody forgets those heinous crimes.

 

They are however not part of the events under discussion.

 

Let’s be very clear, no heinous war crime is any justification for another.

 

 

Why do you think the IDF were there? Of course the hostages are part of the discussion. That's why the war is going on because the terrorists will not release them and carry on their war crimes daily using ambulances, hospitals and civilians as human shields. Sounds like you'd prefer to forget about those inconvinient facts.

[Eloquent pilgrim]

44 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Very clearly the IDF lied about the circumstances of the slaughter of these Paramedics and have yet to provide information on the one Paramedic who remains missing.

 

They, the IDF,  clearly lack any credibility to undertake an investigation or play any party in an investigation other than as subjects of an investigation into a probable war crime.

 

 

 

Antisemitism from you once again; even more thinly veiled than usual.

 

 

[Eloquent pilgrim]

46 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Very clearly the IDF lied about the circumstances of the slaughter of these Paramedics

 

Very clearly the IDF lied about the circumstances of the slaughter of these Terrorists

 

…. fixed it for you; you’re welcome

 

 

[Eloquent pilgrim]

13 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Hogwash.

 

Extra edifying; many thanks for your intellectual input.

 

 

 

 

[Chomper Higgot]

3 minutes ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

 

Extra edifying; many thanks for your intellectual input.

 

 

 

 

You’ve claimed The Red Crescent is ‘affiliated’ to Hamas.

 

Can please produce evidence of that ‘affiliation’.

 

 

[Chomper Higgot]

8 minutes ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

 

Very clearly the IDF lied about the circumstances of the slaughter of these Terrorists

 

…. fixed it for you; you’re welcome

 

 

Can you please provide evidence that the slaughtered paramedics were terrorists?

 

 

[Eloquent pilgrim]

18 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

You’ve claimed The Red Crescent is ‘affiliated’ to Hamas.

 

Can please produce evidence of that ‘affiliation’.

 

 

 

 

All Palestinians in Gaza are affiliated to Hamas. Hamas are the legitimate government of these Palestinians; you don’t like that because it removes the validity of the overused and disingenuous slogan “innocent Palestinians” every time a terrorist disguised as a civilian or a medic is killed.

 

However, you have never offered an explanation as to how the IDF are supposed to recognise in a war, the difference between Hamas terrorists, and alleged innocent civilians when they continually disguise themselves as civilians, medics, teachers etc. How about the terrorists disguised as UNRWA workers, I notice you have not said anything about those “innocent Palestinians”

 

 

 

[Chomper Higgot]

11 minutes ago, papa al said:

3/4 of those Israelis killed Oct 7 were killed by IDF.

Either put up a credible link to evidence supporting that claim, or withdraw it.

[Eloquent pilgrim]

13 minutes ago, papa al said:

3/4 of those Israelis killed Oct 7 were killed by IDF.

 

Oh look, another raging antisemite on here 

[Chomper Higgot]

3 minutes ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

 

 

All Palestinians in Gaza are affiliated to Hamas. Hamas are the legitimate government of these Palestinians; you don’t like that because it removes the validity of the overused and disingenuous slogan “innocent Palestinians” every time a terrorist disguised as a civilian or a medic is killed.

 

However, you have never offered an explanation as to how the IDF are supposed to recognise in a war, the difference between Hamas terrorists, and alleged innocent civilians when they continually disguise themselves as civilians, medics, teachers etc. How about the terrorists disguised as UNRWA workers, I notice you have not said anything about those “innocent Palestinians”

 

 

 

‘Affiliation’ has a very specific definition.

 

Your tortured logic doesn’t come even close to that definition.

 

 

[Bkk Brian]

27 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

‘Affiliation’ has a very specific definition.

 

Your tortured logic doesn’t come even close to that definition.

 

 

How about when they are caught on video helping Hamas terrorists on Oct 7th? They wouldn't lie about that would they? After all a video has surfaced.

 

"The Palestinian Red Crescent assisted Hamas in the October 7 attack on Israel."

 

 

[Eloquent pilgrim]

6 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

‘Affiliation’ has a very specific definition.

 

Your tortured logic doesn’t come even close to that definition.

 

 

 

 

Oh look, you forgot to mention UNRWA once again, and their participation in the most barbaric atrocity in modern history; and their holding captive wounded and dying hostages in their facilities for Hamas. No Palestinian agency in Gaza can be trusted in any way, shape or form, they are all affiliated to Hamas.

 

 

 

 

[Tubulat]

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I doubt anybody forgets those heinous crimes.

 

They are however not part of the events under discussion.

 

Let’s be very clear, no heinous war crime is any justification for another.

 

 

If you are so boorish as to deny that, any discussion with you is pointless, therefore I am blocking you.

[Chomper Higgot]

7 minutes ago, Tubulat said:

If you are so boorish as to deny that, any discussion with you is pointless, therefore I am blocking you.

A personal attack and a flounce, all in one short sentence.

And all without addressing the point I made.

[Chomper Higgot]

3 hours ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

 

Antisemitism from you once again; even more thinly veiled than usual.

 

 

 

You can’t deal with an argument so you resort to your customary fall back of baseless slurs.