12 hours ago, Tug said:

You got eyes and a brain…….use them,it’s all about deeds not words.trump has EARNED my anger and revulsion every single bit of it.this particular assault on my country is just another concrete deed,it will contribute to the brain drain under trump.he is what he is.

Tell us what he has done to earn your anger and revulsion, which is the only coherent thing I can see above.

 

The rest sounds like Trump Hate Madness

10 hours ago, placeholder said:

What has DEI got to do with the huge amount of agricultural and biotech engaged in by universities like Cornell? Why is it that the most advanced industries in America are mostly clustered around cities where major research is engaged in by universities?

 

I miss those days.  We all do.  Nowadays, they have to compile poop maps in those same cities because it's not nice to call a spade a spade.  

 

 China's lapping us precisely because they don't practice that fooknuttery.  (Edit:  Among other reasons...)

 

We want those good ol' days back.  That's that last A in MAGA.

 

 

 

 

 

 

3 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

I miss those days.  We all do.  Nowadays, they have to compile poop maps in those same cities because it's not nice to call a spade a spade.  

 

 China's lapping us precisely because they don't practice that fooknuttery.

 

We want those good ol' days back.  That's that last A in MAGA.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Right. San Francisco and Silicon Valley have been major contributors to America's decline. If it weren't for the contributions of states like Mississippi and North Dakota, America would be doomed.

On 4/11/2025 at 9:28 AM, placeholder said:

All those liberal professors doing agricultural research at Cornell. I hear they're registering cows to vote.

Oh!  Always good to hear the udder side of the story.

On 4/11/2025 at 11:42 AM, Wrwest said:

We don't need no stinkin higher education research ... we got common sense.

Yup.  Seen plenty of that on this forum.

On 4/11/2025 at 1:22 PM, impulse said:

 

Perhaps it's better to do that research at universities that can define what a woman is.

 

Wow!  That'd take a lot of research and a lot of money!

8 hours ago, Yagoda said:

Tell us what he has done to earn your anger and revulsion, which is the only coherent thing I can see above.

 

The rest sounds like Trump Hate Madness

Well gee wizz were to start?I think I’ve responded to your request on this several times before here are just a few …the big lie attempt coup rape fraud tax evasion chaos imbezzler scammer incompetence on every level insulting pows this latest moronic move on stocks the total absence of legislation the over the top racism  the excessive use of executive orders ( that’s a ditcate btw) his anti American treatment of president Zelenskyy and throwing the brave heroic Ukrainian nation under the bus his groveling to putin there’s lots and lots more yagoda but you are to deep in the cult to see it.those are deeds that Mr trump has done that’s who he is I don’t like people like that,that’s not madness that’s just the reaction of a normal lucid American no more no less.

51 minutes ago, Tug said:

Well gee wizz were to start?I think I’ve responded to your request on this several times before here are just a few …the big lie attempt coup rape fraud tax evasion chaos imbezzler scammer incompetence on every level insulting pows this latest moronic move on stocks the total absence of legislation the over the top racism  the excessive use of executive orders ( that’s a ditcate btw) his anti American treatment of president Zelenskyy and throwing the brave heroic Ukrainian nation under the bus his groveling to putin there’s lots and lots more yagoda but you are to deep in the cult to see it.those are deeds that Mr trump has done that’s who he is I don’t like people like that,that’s not madness that’s just the reaction of a normal lucid American no more no less.

I rest my case

10 hours ago, Gecko123 said:

I'm sorry BangkokReady, but you are really showing your ignorance of National Socialist educational policy. If you do any research on this you will see that the Trump administration and Project 2025 are following the exact same playbook. Jason Stanley is a leading authority on this subject.

But Trump is nice to Jews, and National Socialists wanted to kill them all.

And currently the world lefties hate Jews ..............

So if anything todays lefties appear to be today's Nazis.

On 4/11/2025 at 8:25 AM, ThreeCardMonte said:

This is what they produce in public schools.

A very apt Nom de Plume and a post to match.  You do realize that in the US, the state governments carry the bulk of the burden for delivering an education to its residents?  The Federal Dept. offers assistance, attempts to ensure equal access to all children, collects data and conducts research.... not much to do with actual teaching or setting curiculum. 

 

It seems likely you can't manage on your own so I hope you have a friend who can help you read this web page:

 https://www.ed.gov/about/ed-overview

 

15 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

But Trump is nice to Jews, and National Socialists wanted to kill them all.

And currently the world lefties hate Jews ..............

So if anything todays lefties appear to be today's Nazis.

Correct

4 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

Correct

 

Ooops. 

57 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

But Trump is nice to Jews, and National Socialists wanted to kill them all.

And currently the world lefties hate Jews ..............

So if anything todays lefties appear to be today's Nazis.

 

It's superficial reasoning to argue that just because Trump has a Jewish in-law and is buddying up to Netanyahu that there are no parallels between Trump and National Socialism. The Nazis used the Jewish people as a convenient scapegoat for all of Germany's problems post WWI (accusing them of having been the cause of Germany's defeat, portraying them as money grubbing and defiling the racial purity of the Germanic people.) They were also associated with hated Bolshevism (Communism).

 

The Nazis used the Jewish people as a scapegoat, labelling them the "other" which needed to be eliminated from German society. It's also important to point out that the Nazis were almost equally as hostile to most all other non-Germanic people as well. My point is that the Nazis could just as easily chosen a different scapegoat if circumstances had permitted it.

 

The Trump administration has merely substituted immigrants, Muslims, and other minority groups for the scapegoat target, but simply because the choice of scapegoat target has changed does not eliminate the parallels between the Nazi and MAGA movements.

 

When you look at Trump's efforts to consolidate power in the executive branch, the use of propaganda, the untethering from the truth, the cult-like fervor behind the MAGA movement, the attacks on the press, the judiciary, the Federal reserve, the threats of militia and street violence, the attacks on educational institutions (book burning anyone?) as well as all of the other anti-democratic and autocratic steps he has taken, the parallels between the tactics and policies he is pursuing and the tactics and policies the Nazis pursued are unmistakable.

 

Furthermore, Trump's positions on foreign aid to third world countries, refusal to acknowledge climate change (which disproportionately impacts third world countries, his ethnic cleansing approach to the Gaza conflict, and his immigration policies, etc., etc. can all be seen as being in line with Nazi "survival of the fittest" ideology. 

 

 

These places need to lose their accreditation and lose eligibility to be considered for student loans from the feds.

19 hours ago, Tug said:

Well gee wizz were to start?I think I’ve responded to your request on this several times before here are just a few …the big lie attempt coup rape fraud tax evasion chaos imbezzler scammer incompetence on every level insulting pows this latest moronic move on stocks the total absence of legislation the over the top racism  the excessive use of executive orders ( that’s a ditcate btw) his anti American treatment of president Zelenskyy and throwing the brave heroic Ukrainian nation under the bus his groveling to putin there’s lots and lots more yagoda but you are to deep in the cult to see it.those are deeds that Mr trump has done that’s who he is I don’t like people like that,that’s not madness that’s just the reaction of a normal lucid American no more no less.

Wow. Thats even less coherent that the last one. But, as best I can glean, you live in a lie.

 

Brave heroic Ukrainian nation LOL

3 hours ago, Yagoda said:

Wow. Thats even less coherent that the last one. But, as best I can glean, you live in a lie.

 

Brave heroic Ukrainian nation LOL

Someone is showing their true colors here ehh comrade?

10 minutes ago, Tug said:

Someone is showing their true colors here ehh comrade?

What are my true colours? Clearly Im not an America hater, nor am I afflicted with Trump Hate Madness.

On 4/12/2025 at 6:22 PM, Gecko123 said:

 

It's superficial reasoning to argue that just because Trump has a Jewish in-law and is buddying up to Netanyahu that there are no parallels between Trump and National Socialism. The Nazis used the Jewish people as a convenient scapegoat for all of Germany's problems post WWI (accusing them of having been the cause of Germany's defeat, portraying them as money grubbing and defiling the racial purity of the Germanic people.) They were also associated with hated Bolshevism (Communism).

 

The Nazis used the Jewish people as a scapegoat, labelling them the "other" which needed to be eliminated from German society. It's also important to point out that the Nazis were almost equally as hostile to most all other non-Germanic people as well. My point is that the Nazis could just as easily chosen a different scapegoat if circumstances had permitted it.

 

The Trump administration has merely substituted immigrants, Muslims, and other minority groups for the scapegoat target, but simply because the choice of scapegoat target has changed does not eliminate the parallels between the Nazi and MAGA movements.

 

When you look at Trump's efforts to consolidate power in the executive branch, the use of propaganda, the untethering from the truth, the cult-like fervor behind the MAGA movement, the attacks on the press, the judiciary, the Federal reserve, the threats of militia and street violence, the attacks on educational institutions (book burning anyone?) as well as all of the other anti-democratic and autocratic steps he has taken, the parallels between the tactics and policies he is pursuing and the tactics and policies the Nazis pursued are unmistakable.

 

Furthermore, Trump's positions on foreign aid to third world countries, refusal to acknowledge climate change (which disproportionately impacts third world countries, his ethnic cleansing approach to the Gaza conflict, and his immigration policies, etc., etc. can all be seen as being in line with Nazi "survival of the fittest" ideology. 

 

 

 

Put more succinctly, the driving ideology behind National Socialism was that the Aryan race was superior to other races. Jewish people were a convenient target at the time, but the target could have been any non-Aryan people, so I do not believe that anti-Semitism was necessarily an immutable element of Nazi ideology. Any non-Aryan group could have been the target had historical circumstances permitted it, so arguing that because the MAGA movement doesn't necessarily exhibit overt anti-Semitism excludes the possibility that other elements of Nazi exist would be incorrect, in my opinion.

 

The Trump administration is clearly playing racial identity politics similar to those employed by the Nazis. His policies on immigration (southern border wall, muslim ban, revoking visas for legal non-white immigrants, etc.), his anti-DEI and anti-affirmative action, slashing humanitarian and levying destabilizing tariffs on third world countries, support of white national identity parties such as the RN in France, and the AfD in Germany, the pardoning of those convicted of playing violent and having leadership roles in the Jan 6th attack on the Capitol are all reflections of a white nationalist agenda and is not dissimilar to the tactics the National Socialists used to try and subordinate everyone else's interests to those of the party.

 

It also needs to be recognized that the MAGA movement's attempt to consolidate power in the executive branch of government while disempowering the legislative and judicial branches of government isn't just an attempt to consolidate power in the executive branch of government, but an effort to remove the checks and balances of the American form of government, which is ultimately an attempt to take control of the government away from the people, something which the National Socialist party aggressively attempted to do as well.

 

The irony is so thicK you could choke on it in this forum. There are so many far-left, pro-China, anti-US/UK biased posters that it makes no sense... think about it. How can you be far-left, anti-western and pro-China? Unless of course it's like on Youtude where the CCP is paying foreign influences to be positive about China etc., which I could easily believe.

Facepalm.

On 4/11/2025 at 8:17 AM, wombat said:

I'm hoping he continues and guts the rorts 

Yea! we don't need to stinking education we are MAAGA and got common sense! Ignorance is no one's friend. As you demonstrate ...

On 4/11/2025 at 8:25 AM, ThreeCardMonte said:

Good job President Trump for denying funding for liberal and hamas loving universities.  They produce nothing thanks to their ideological professors.

 

Special thanks for abolishing the worthless Department of Education.  
 

This is what they produce in public schools.

 

 

Ignorance is no one's friend. As you may be a foreign bot or just an American ignorant about American public education ... the USA has 50 state education systems as public education is controlled by the states under the Constitution. Then, in each of those states, there are local school boards, elected by the residents in the local school district to oversee the funding and curriculum and graduation requirements in their schools. Hope that helps your comprehension concerning US public schools.

On 4/11/2025 at 9:52 AM, impulse said:

 

Pretty easy to move that money over to universities that adhere to American values (and laws).  The researchers will follow the money, and we'll lose maybe a few months in the transition.  And end up better off in the long term.

 

Oh, yes, that is the way it will work ... we need the money for the stated Project 2025 goals to be reached.

On 4/11/2025 at 9:54 AM, Hanaguma said:

Northwestern University has an endowment of more than 14 BILLION dollars. Cornell has 11 billion. They dont need federal funds.  

Glad to see if corporations have money to do further investments they do not need government subsidies nor tax breaks. We can certainly agree on that ...

On 4/11/2025 at 12:22 PM, impulse said:

 

Perhaps it's better to do that research at universities that can define what a woman is.

 

And conform to the list of demands, which must be conformed to, sent to Harvard before funding is restored?

On 4/11/2025 at 10:42 AM, Wrwest said:

We don't need no stinkin higher education research ... we got common sense.

No common sense in the USA, 21% of adults in the US are illiterate in 2024. 54% of adults have a literacy below a 6th-grade level (20% are below 5th-grade level). From the National Literacy Institute. 

 

On 4/16/2025 at 10:27 AM, ThreeCardMonte said:

You have just confirmed no reason for the Department of Education is each state is managing their own affairs.

Actually, the reason for federal government involvement can be traced to American students left to each state were not getting a chance at an equal education (that is a national interest, not limited to any one state). Thus we witnessed the result of segregation and financially continue to witness historically documented education afforded poorer tax support in the various local school districts. A major role of the federal Dept. of Education is to help with finial support of the poorer school districts and overseeing that federal non-discrimination law is carried out. So, yes, there is a need for a national role while leaving most control local.

Somewhat said: "Harvard is a hedge fund with a university attached to it". There's some truth in that. Universities and their hedge-funds are tax-free, like cults.

 

If I am a right-wing tax-payer, should I be happy with my tax-payer's money going to fund tax-free outfits of left-wing agitprop who already manage billions?

 

Of course this raises the question of why Trump doesn't go after religious cults who enjoy similar privileges.

On 4/16/2025 at 10:30 AM, ThreeCardMonte said:

Retired school teacher?

Retired educator. State Lifetime Certified public middle and high school for 16 years. Then last 27 years undergraduate American and European survey courses, retiring as Professor Emeritus.

18 hours ago, stupidfarang said:

No common sense in the USA, 21% of adults in the US are illiterate in 2024. 54% of adults have a literacy below a 6th-grade level (20% are below 5th-grade level). From the National Literacy Institute. 

 

Agreed and I am aware. While I strongly support the idea of each citizen having an equal vote, it does mend just that the problem with a democracy is counting heads and not what is in those heads. Tempting to contemplate term limits and literacy tests (applied to all this time).

Why do elites schools which essentially only the uber wealthy can afford to attend need the US government to subsidize it's base of wealthy students.