Trump Wields Executive Order to Dismantle State Climate Laws

[thaibeachlovers]

8 hours ago, johng said:

 

Of course climate change is real, the problem is,,,is it caused by human activity  and if so what can we do about it    2 big questions  not yet answered.

How about one solution  if humans are causing the climate change  we need to eradicate the humans ?  then the climate will return to  "normal"  good idea ?

seems some think it is.

According to their own theory that climate change is caused by too much CO2, of course it can't be reversed as all that CO2 in the atmosphere isn't going away.

Last time I looked an EV doesn't consume CO2.

[thaibeachlovers]

I don't know if Trump can eliminate state laws, but good on him for trying, on the ridiculous MMCC fraud laws.

[newbee2022]

6 hours ago, still kicking said:

With that amount of junk food, he would not get a hard-on.

He thinks there is "cocaine" in coke 

[BritManToo]

7 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

He thinks there is "cocaine" in coke 

"Coca-Cola's history has been well-documented. The drink was invented in 1885 by John Pemberton, a pharmacist from Atlanta, Georgia, who made the original formula in his backyard. Pemberton's recipe contained cocaine in the form of an extract of the coca leaf, which inspired the “Coca” part of the beverage's name."

[newbee2022]

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

If you didn't post similar against Biden or Harris at the time they were in charge, that would be hypocritical IMO.

I don't agree actually. if I would follow you then it seems like cherry picking resp orange picking.

You would have to compare all other 46 presidents with Trump. And not pick only one. 

And that.....is too much work for me 🤗

That's why I mentioned the current one only. He claims to be world's leader. But for me he's the leader pushing us into nowhere or centuries back....only.

It doesn't help anybody to compare him with somebody of the past.

We live in the present.

[newbee2022]

8 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

"Coca-Cola's history has been well-documented. The drink was invented in 1885 by John Pemberton, a pharmacist from Atlanta, Georgia, who made the original formula in his backyard. Pemberton's recipe contained cocaine in the form of an extract of the coca leaf, which inspired the “Coca” part of the beverage's name."

Thank you Google. Almost everybody knows this. Maybe Donald doesn't.

[emptypockets]

12 hours ago, billd766 said:

I cannot believe anything that comes from a Trump supporter, especially when the majority of the countries agree that climate change is real.

 

Is climate change a real thing or not?

 

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Yes, climate change is a real and serious issue, and the overwhelming scientific consensus is that it is primarily driven by human activities. The Earth's climate is changing at an unprecedented rate, and this is largely due to the increase in greenhouse gas emissions, mainly from burning fossil fuels and deforestation. 
Elaboration:
Scientific Consensus:
A vast majority of scientists, including the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), agree that human activities are the main cause of the observed warming trend since the mid-20th century. Studies have shown that over 97% of climate scientists agree that human-caused climate change is happening. 

 

There is much more information in the link, at least for intelligent people to read.

 

https://www.wwf.org.uk/updates/here-are-10-myths-about-climate-change#:~:text=Over the course of Earth's,know climate change is real?

 

Over the course of Earth’s 4.5-billion-year history, the climate has changed a lot, this is true. However, the rapid warming we’re seeing now can't be explained by natural cycles of warming and cooling. The kind of changes that would normally happen over hundreds of thousands of years are happening in decades. 

Global temperatures are now at their highest since records began. In fact, the 10 warmest years on Earth, since 1880, have occurred since 2014.

 

There is much more information in this link, at least for intelligent people to read.

A link to the WWF about climate change....really!! That bunch of freeloaders rely on the gullible for funding.

[BritManToo]

1 hour ago, newbee2022 said:

Thank you Google. Almost everybody knows this. Maybe Donald doesn't.

I didn't know the cocaine was removed in 1929 because they didn't want black people to have easy access to drugs!

[newbee2022]

34 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

I didn't know the cocaine was removed in 1929 because they didn't want black people to have easy access to drugs!

Yeah, instead of removing/relocating the Blacks they removed the cocaine.

Is it that you want to say?🤗

Without the Blacks we would have unlimited access to cocaine?

Right?🤣

[pomchop]

14 hours ago, PomPolo said:

Has he got one?

of course he does..it is a beautiful word "penis"...some don't know what a beautiful word it is "penis"  ...i love to say "penis penis penis"....many people say that i have a beautiful penis...some people even say that my penis is the biggest and best penis they have ever seen....women rave about what a great penis i have..."penis penis penis"....some people even combine another word for penis..."dick"with admiration for my beautiful head and call me dxxkhead.

[pomchop]

5 hours ago, kimothai said:

Numbers can be manipulated. The VAST majority of Americans recognized that and that is why the embarrassing Biden and Harris (who said she would do nothing different) were resoundingly rejected. They rejected the embarrassing open borders and willful importing of violent gangs including murders,rapests, and terrorists. The American voters strongly rejected the assanine DEI policies. Being a lefty, I'm guessing you are real proud to have men in women sports beating up on women. There was so much wrong with Biden's DEI that I'm not going to waste any more time on it, just that DEI took months to force on Corporations and when Trump killed it, the time for corporations to delete DEI could be measured in minutes - that speaks volumes. 

The only good thing about Biden is that he dethroned Jimmy Carter (God bless him & may he rest in peace) as the worst and also (by far) the most embarrassing POTUS in the history of the United States of America and I don't give at rat's a*s if you believe that or not. 

feel better with a nice maga rant? 

 

Amazing how that old senile sleepy joe must have somehow convinced a hundred or more countries to manipulate all the figures regarding their gdp inflation wages unemployment etc to not fit to what your family and friends in california declared to be their maga interpretation of the worlds economies...not bad for an old senile incompetent man.  Have another glass of kool aide.

[impulse]

8 hours ago, theshu25 said:

Dont you mean crayons.  The village idiot is not ready to be using  a real ink pen yet.

 

At least he knows what he's signing.  Biden denied signing stuff that had his signature on it.  We'll probably never know whether that's because he's an old guy with a poor memory or his flunkies were signing all kinds of stuff without his knowledge or consent.  That's just plain scary.

 

[spidermike007]

Trump is not a believer in science, so his support will always be with the well-being of corporations, regardless of the environmental destruction involved. He just doesn't care, he doesn't have the vision or the wisdom to see the benefit of any sort of environmental policies. And it's likely he's never been to a national park in his sorry lifetime. It's just another thing that makes him an incredibly dangerous man and a terrible leader. 

 

Scientists have found climate change is not just increasing the severity of extreme weather, it is interrupting the natural patterns, causing wild swings between dry and wet extremes. California has seen this "weather whiplash" in recent years where atmospheric river storms cause destructive floods one year and extreme drought causing water shortages the next.

 

Trump says what a lot of people say and think. I am not responsible, I have not contributed to these problems, if they exist at all, and nothing that I do could possibly have an effect on some place as large as the earth or it's vast oceans.

 

So stop picking on me and stop asking me to take responsibility, because I won't. Plastic is not harmful and I won't make any attempt to cut down on my use of it. Gas vehicles are not harmful and therefore I will make no attempt to drive one that consumes less gas, or to use a bicycle, or even a motorbike. I like gas guzzlers, so again I ask please leave me alone. 

 

There's no question that many major cities on the coast, at sea level will suffer from storm surges and rising tides over the next decade or two, around the world. We all know what's causing it, but many are not willing to admit it.

 

On a certain level it feels like we are behaving as if we have seven or eight alternative planets to move to, when we foul this one sufficiently to lower the quality of life for all mankind. 

[pomchop]

33 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

At least he knows what he's signing.  Biden denied signing stuff that had his signature on it.  We'll probably never know whether that's because he's an old guy with a poor memory or his flunkies were signing all kinds of stuff without his knowledge or consent.  That's just plain scary.

 

that ole sleepy incompetent senile joe and his flunkies sure was amazing how he was able to rig an election and leave no evidence and then somehow dig out of the giant mess of four years of trump running the debt through the stratosphere and hand off the economy that was the envy of the world...it's almost scary how such an incompetent idiot could have achieved that.

[impulse]

12 minutes ago, pomchop said:

that ole sleepy incompetent senile joe and his flunkies sure was amazing how he was able to rig an election and leave no evidence and then somehow dig out of the giant mess of four years of trump running the debt through the stratosphere and hand off the economy that was the envy of the world...it's almost scary how such an incompetent idiot could have achieved that.

 

I guess you're forgetting that ole' Joe piled on more debt than Trump, added more jobs for "newcomers" than natives, and the only reason the unemployment rate didn't skyrocket is because they didn't count the millions of unemployed newcomers in the labor pool yet.

 

Are you digging on Joe's $40 billion high speed internet that has so far connected zero customers to high speed internet?  They could be serving millions of users for years now, but that would have been a win for a Trump supporter.

 

[billd766]

3 hours ago, emptypockets said:

A link to the WWF about climate change....really!! That bunch of freeloaders rely on the gullible for funding.

Instead of complaining about the link, simply prove that the link is wrong and incorrect, but don't forget to supply the verifiable links. That should be easy for you.

[kimothai]

54 minutes ago, pomchop said:

feel better with a nice maga rant? 

 

Amazing how that old senile sleepy joe must have somehow convinced a hundred or more countries to manipulate all the figures regarding their gdp inflation wages unemployment etc to not fit to what your family and friends in california declared to be their maga interpretation of the worlds economies...not bad for an old senile incompetent man.  Have another glass of kool aide.

Well, you got the old senile part right.  I could give a sh*t less about GDP's.  Biden put every Americans lives in danger by importing murders, papists, and gangbangers into the States.  You probably think GDP's are more important than people's lives.  I guess that's why the Democrats own strategist James Carville described lefties (which includes you) as "stunningly stupid", his words, not mine.  I think we both know who's been drinking the kool aide - have another sip.

[impulse]

On 4/11/2025 at 10:32 AM, Olav Seglem said:

It disgust me think about millions of voters putting the 2 untamed apes ( little donnie diaper and his pitbull pet JD) in a house where Lincoln, Roosevelt, Eisenhower and Kennedy lived.....

 

I wonder how many interns Kennedy boffed in those hallowed hallways.  And Clinton.

 

Edit:  And how many bags of coke they'll find during Trump 2.  So far, Team Biden's ahead 1-0.

 

[KhunLA]

We had nice seasonal rainfall here, past couple weeks.  Much earlier than past years.

 

Thank You Pres. Trump ... 

 

MAGA

Making Anywhere Great Again

[thaibeachlovers]

6 hours ago, newbee2022 said:

I don't agree actually. if I would follow you then it seems like cherry picking resp orange picking.

You would have to compare all other 46 presidents with Trump. And not pick only one. 

And that.....is too much work for me 🤗

That's why I mentioned the current one only. He claims to be world's leader. But for me he's the leader pushing us into nowhere or centuries back....only.

It doesn't help anybody to compare him with somebody of the past.

We live in the present.

I wasn't asking if you criticized Biden/ Harris now, but if you did so at the time they were destroying the US border protection. Trump wasn't POTUS then.

[thaibeachlovers]

3 hours ago, impulse said:

 

At least he knows what he's signing.  Biden denied signing stuff that had his signature on it.  We'll probably never know whether that's because he's an old guy with a poor memory or his flunkies were signing all kinds of stuff without his knowledge or consent.  That's just plain scary.

 

The only question re Biden is how far back do we have to go to know when he stopped having a functioning brain?

It's actually quite scary that so many members of this forum claimed he was a fully functioning human being till it was no longer possible to ignore the evidence

[newbee2022]

13 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I wasn't asking if you criticized Biden/ Harris now, but if you did so at the time they were destroying the US border protection. Trump wasn't POTUS then.

Given that you're right. What is Trump doing to protect the borders to Mexico and Canada?

Fence? Wall? Army? Land mines?

[thaibeachlovers]

56 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

Given that you're right. What is Trump doing to protect the borders to Mexico and Canada?

Fence? Wall? Army? Land mines?

Considering that the number of illegals has reduced significantly, the right thing.

 

Canada, who cares about Canada? Cold place with good skiing is about the best that can be said of it.

[newbee2022]

30 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Canada, who cares about Canada? Cold place with good skiing is about the best that can be said of it

I suppose you've never been there 🤣😂🤗

[thaibeachlovers]

19 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

I suppose you've never been there 🤣😂🤗

I did apply to work in Banff so I could go skiing, but I was informed that if a Canadian wanted my job I was sacked, so I went to Saudi instead, and loads of Canadian nurses turned up because they closed lots of Canadian hospitals or cut the staff or something- I forget the reason.

[newbee2022]

13 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I did apply to work in Banff so I could go skiing, but I was informed that if a Canadian wanted my job I was sacked, so I went to Saudi instead, and loads of Canadian nurses turned up because they closed lots of Canadian hospitals or cut the staff or something- I forget the reason.

Sounds interesting 🤗 

The most lovely city for me is Vancouver. 

[BritManToo]

26 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I did apply to work in Banff so I could go skiing, but I was informed that if a Canadian wanted my job I was sacked, so I went to Saudi instead, and loads of Canadian nurses turned up because they closed lots of Canadian hospitals or cut the staff or something- I forget the reason.

 I used to go Ski-ing in Jasper and Banff ........ Banff was better!

[pomchop]

6 hours ago, impulse said:

 

I guess you're forgetting that ole' Joe piled on more debt than Trump, added more jobs for "newcomers" than natives, and the only reason the unemployment rate didn't skyrocket is because they didn't count the millions of unemployed newcomers in the labor pool yet.

 

Are you digging on Joe's $40 billion high speed internet that has so far connected zero customers to high speed internet?  They could be serving millions of users for years now, but that would have been a win for a Trump supporter.

 

Data: Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget; Chart: 

Former President Trump ran up the national debt by about twice as much as President Biden, according to a new analysis of their fiscal track records.

Why it matters: The winner of November's election faces a gloomy fiscal outlook, with rapidly rising debt levels at a time when interest rates are already high and demographic pressure on retirement programs is rising.

• Both candidates bear a share of the responsibility, as each added trillions to that tally while in office.
• But Trump's contribution was significantly higher, according to the fiscal watchdogs at the Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget, thanks to both tax cuts and spending deals struck in his four years in the White House.

By the numbers: Trump added $8.4 trillion in borrowing over a ten-year window, CRFB finds in a report out this morning.

• Biden's figure clocks in at $4.3 trillion with seven months remaining in his term.
• If you exclude COVID relief spending from the tally, the numbers are $4.8 trillion for Trump and $2.2 trillion for Biden.

State of play: For Trump, the biggest non-COVID drivers of higher public debt were his signature tax cuts enacted in 2017 (causing $1.9 trillion in additional borrowing) and bipartisan spending packages (which added $2.1 trillion).

• For Biden, major non-COVID factors include 2022 and 2023 spending bills ($1.4 trillion), student debt relief ($620 billion), and legislation to support health care for veterans ($520 billion).
• Biden deficits have also swelled, according to CRFB's analysis, due to executive actions that changed the way food stamp benefits are calculated, expanding Medicaid benefits, and other changes that total $548 billion.

Between the lines: Deficit politics may return to the forefront of U.S. policy debates next year.

• Much of Trump's tax law is set to expire at the end of 2025, and the CBO has estimated that fully extending it would increase deficits by $4.6 trillion over the next decade.

 

• High interest rates make the taxpayer burden of both existing and new debt higher than it was during the era of near-zero interest rates.
• And the Social Security trust fund is rapidly hurtling toward depletion in 2033, which would trigger huge cuts in the retirement benefits absent Congressional action.

What they're saying: "The next president will face huge fiscal challenges," CRFB president Maya MacGuineas tells Axios.

• "Yet both candidates have track records of approving trillions in new borrowing even setting aside the justified borrowing for COVID, and neither has proposed a comprehensive and credible plan to get the debt under control," she said.
• "No president is fully responsible for the fiscal challenges that come along, but they need to use the bully pulpit to set the stage for making some hard choices," MacGuineas said.

•  

[impulse]

11 minutes ago, pomchop said:

Data: Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget; Chart: 

Former President Trump ran up the national debt by about twice as much as President Biden, according to a new analysis of their fiscal track records.

Why it matters: The winner of November's election faces a gloomy fiscal outlook, with rapidly rising debt levels at a time when interest rates are already high and demographic pressure on retirement programs is rising.

• Both candidates bear a share of the responsibility, as each added trillions to that tally while in office.
• But Trump's contribution was significantly higher, according to the fiscal watchdogs at the Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget, thanks to both tax cuts and spending deals struck in his four years in the White House.

By the numbers: Trump added $8.4 trillion in borrowing over a ten-year window, CRFB finds in a report out this morning.

• Biden's figure clocks in at $4.3 trillion with seven months remaining in his term.
• If you exclude COVID relief spending from the tally, the numbers are $4.8 trillion for Trump and $2.2 trillion for Biden.

State of play: For Trump, the biggest non-COVID drivers of higher public debt were his signature tax cuts enacted in 2017 (causing $1.9 trillion in additional borrowing) and bipartisan spending packages (which added $2.1 trillion).

• For Biden, major non-COVID factors include 2022 and 2023 spending bills ($1.4 trillion), student debt relief ($620 billion), and legislation to support health care for veterans ($520 billion).
• Biden deficits have also swelled, according to CRFB's analysis, due to executive actions that changed the way food stamp benefits are calculated, expanding Medicaid benefits, and other changes that total $548 billion.

Between the lines: Deficit politics may return to the forefront of U.S. policy debates next year.

• Much of Trump's tax law is set to expire at the end of 2025, and the CBO has estimated that fully extending it would increase deficits by $4.6 trillion over the next decade.

 

• High interest rates make the taxpayer burden of both existing and new debt higher than it was during the era of near-zero interest rates.
• And the Social Security trust fund is rapidly hurtling toward depletion in 2033, which would trigger huge cuts in the retirement benefits absent Congressional action.

What they're saying: "The next president will face huge fiscal challenges," CRFB president Maya MacGuineas tells Axios.

• "Yet both candidates have track records of approving trillions in new borrowing even setting aside the justified borrowing for COVID, and neither has proposed a comprehensive and credible plan to get the debt under control," she said.
• "No president is fully responsible for the fiscal challenges that come along, but they need to use the bully pulpit to set the stage for making some hard choices," MacGuineas said.

•  

 

So Trump added to the debt by cutting taxes and Biden added to the debt by pissing away more money.

 

What's it mean when the slope of this line was steeper during the Biden years?  Forget the analysis, which has been politicized to death.  Just look at the numbers.  And to claim that a lot of Biden's spending was Covid spending was disingenuous.

 

 

BTW, what was the Federal Budget in the last year of Trump vs the last year of Biden.  That tells the story.  Just the number, please.  Not the propaganda.

 

 

 

 

[riclag]

2 hours ago, impulse said:

 

So Trump added to the debt by cutting taxes and Biden added to the debt by pissing away more money.

 

What's it mean when the slope of this line was steeper during the Biden years?  Forget the analysis, which has been politicized to death.  Just look at the numbers.  And to claim that a lot of Biden's spending was Covid spending was disingenuous.

 

 

BTW, what was the Federal Budget in the last year of Trump vs the last year of Biden.  That tells the story.  Just the number, please.  Not the propaganda.

 

 

 

 

Pissing away more money . They / them would fund the EPA . Epa would oversee the funds and issue grants.Some to antiamerican radical groups.

Thats where it gets shady! Doge found  FUNding being used  for DEI programs.

Look at the losers cry below about Doge.

 

“DOGE, under billionaire Elon Musk’s leadership, is on a mission to cut all spending and staffing related to DEI initiatives within workplaces. These programs aim to promote fair representation for and uplift historically marginalized groups like African Americans, LGBTQ+ individuals, women, disabled individuals, and other ethnic minorities across the country.

https://earth.org/epas-decision-to-scrap-20bn-in-climate-grants-based-on-inaccurate-politicized-claims-says-grantee/

 

Senator Shelly Capito from WV found thorough investigations . 

“Democrats wrote the legislation to funnel billions to ‘community-based nonprofit organizations’ with no accountability for how they spent taxpayer dollars. I feared that would be code for bankrolling extreme progressive environmental causes and propping up radical energy activists,” Capito wrote in the introduction to her case study”.

https://www.wboy.com/news/west-virginia/west-virginia-politics/capito-100m-in-taxpayer-money-benefitting-anti-american-radical-activist-group-via-inflation-reduction-act/

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_change_policy_of_the_United_States