1 hour ago, MalcolmB said:

It hasn’t been raised properly so no thanks.

Shame because it is a beautiful dog. 

You haven't got much idea about beauty if that is what think. They are as ugly as sin, both in looks and behavior

 

You are defending these wretched creatures with no justification whatsoever as they are unpredictable!

 

Please research this subject to understand it better. This not opinion any more - many civilised countries have outright bans for good reason

The dog will be taken away for retraining and then offered for adoption 🙀

1 hour ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

Why is it that pit bull-type breeds require specialised training and highly experienced handling just to ensure they don’t become violent - while breeds like Golden Retrievers need no such intervention to be safe?

 

The answer is simple: breeding.

 

Golden Retrievers were never bred with aggression as a base trait. Their lineage comes from a desire to create calm, obedient, people-friendly dogs. You don’t need to “correct” a Golden’s nature - because its nature is inherently safe.

 

Pit bulls, on the other hand, were historically bred for fighting - selected over generations for traits like gameness, tenacity, pain tolerance, and aggression.

That doesn’t mean every individual is dangerous, but it does mean the breed as a whole carries a baseline temperament that makes it higher-risk without proper control.

 

We don’t train Golden Retrievers not to attack. But with pit bulls, people argue they just need the “right owner” or “strong leadership.”  That alone speaks volumes about what’s been bred into them.

 

 

 

 

Although Pitt Bulls may have beed bread to display aggressive behaviour, that does not mean that every Pitt Bull born is going to be aggressive.  In many cases irresponsible individuals acquire Pitt Bulls and then fail to handle them responsibly. A Pitt Bull in most cases that is raised with love and proper care is in turn going to be a beautiful Family Pet. I have seen this in many instances. This does not mean that the dog must be taken for Special Training. 

 

Raise a dog responsibly an you will get the required results. I do agree with your Golden's characteristics and argument. 

Just now, Chris49 said:

1 hour ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

Why is it that pit bull-type breeds require specialised training and highly experienced handling just to ensure they don’t become violent - while breeds like Golden Retrievers need no such intervention to be safe?

 

The answer is simple: breeding.

 

Golden Retrievers were never bred with aggression as a base trait. Their lineage comes from a desire to create calm, obedient, people-friendly dogs. You don’t need to “correct” a Golden’s nature - because its nature is inherently safe.

 

Pit bulls, on the other hand, were historically bred for fighting - selected over generations for traits like gameness, tenacity, pain tolerance, and aggression.

That doesn’t mean every individual is dangerous, but it does mean the breed as a whole carries a baseline temperament that makes it higher-risk without proper control.

 

We don’t train Golden Retrievers not to attack. But with pit bulls, people argue they just need the “right owner” or “strong leadership.”  That alone speaks volumes about what’s been bred into them.

 

 

 

 

Although Pitt Bulls may have beed bread to display aggressive behaviour, that does not mean that every Pitt Bull born is going to be aggressive.  

 

Let me quote the very comment that you replied to:  [[ That doesn’t mean every individual is dangerous, but it does mean the breed as a whole carries a baseline temperament that makes it higher-risk without proper control. ]]

 

Just now, Chris49 said:

In many cases irresponsible individuals acquire Pitt Bulls and then fail to handle them responsibly.

 

<<We don’t train Golden Retrievers not to attack. But with pit bulls, people argue they just need the “right owner” or “strong leadership.”  That alone speaks volumes about what’s been bred into them >>

 

 

Just now, Chris49 said:

A Pitt Bull in most cases that is raised with love and proper care is in turn going to be a beautiful Family Pet. I have seen this in many instances. This does not mean that the dog must be taken for Special Training. 

 

But it must be 'very well trained'...  you made that very point yourself..

[[ In many cases irresponsible individuals acquire Pitt Bulls and then fail to handle them responsibly. ]]

 

 

Just now, Chris49 said:

Raise a dog responsibly an you will get the required results. I do agree with your Golden's characteristics and argument. 

 

Which is also the very argument 'against' breeds such as pitbulls - the only way I see such dogs being handled safely is if people are trained and licensed to handle such canines....  This of course will not happen in Thailand and its too hard to enforce elsewhere. 

 

It might sound harsh, especially to someone who loves the breed, but the truth is, pit bulls aren’t a product of natural evolution. They were deliberately engineered by humans for traits like aggression, endurance, and pain tolerance, all for bloodsport and control.

 

We created them with a purpose in mind. And if that purpose is no longer acceptable in modern society, if the risks now outweigh the rewards, then it’s entirely within our power and responsibility to phase them out.

 

This isn’t about cruelty. It’s about recognising that when something is man-made and dangerous, we have the right, and perhaps the obligation to unmake it.

 

 

 

7 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

 

This isn’t about cruelty. It’s about recognising that when something is man-made and dangerous, we have the right, and perhaps the obligation to unmake it.

 

 

 

You mean things like Bombs, Guns, Knives, etc' 

 

Seriously though.

Selectively breeding a dog to fight to the death, is not for the perceived benefit of the human race.

In my opinion.

The Bully dog should be phased out.

13 minutes ago, PopGun said:

31 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

 

This isn’t about cruelty. It’s about recognising that when something is man-made and dangerous, we have the right, and perhaps the obligation to unmake it.

 

 

 

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You mean things like Bombs, Guns, Knives, etc' 

 

Seriously though.

Selectively breeding a dog to fight to the death, is not for the perceived benefit of the human race.

In my opinion.

The Bully dog should be phased out.

 

 

I've seen arguments as daft as 'humans kill more than Pitbulls'...     thankfully that level of asininity hasn't reached this thread yet... 

 

 

On 4/18/2025 at 9:10 AM, Georgealbert said:

Authorities are now assessing Copper’s future

 

A bullet to the head is the correct future for that mongrel.

6 hours ago, cheerz said:

Nothing wrong with dog, Same as poorly trained humans,  just needs a strong owner. This dog definitely not right pick for this lady or monk 

Why don't you offer to adopt it, and take on all the responsibility for the animal, including all the costs of feeding it, looking after it, and when it savages another person, paying for ALL the damages and costs?

Trained, well-trained, properly trained "wouldn't hurt a fly", never bitten anybody: We have heard it all before. I ignore them!

 

The important word to remember:   "UNPREDICTABLE"

 

Learn this truth and don't go near one!

11 minutes ago, billd766 said:

Why don't you offer to adopt it, and take on all the responsibility for the animal, including all the costs of feeding it, looking after it, and when it savages another person, paying for ALL the damages and costs?

 

Indeed....   as commented earlier...    If owners were routinely held fully responsible, how long would it take for ownership of these ticking time-bombs to diminish ?

 

20 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

IF owners were routinely held to account with no-nonsense prosecutions and actual jail time every time one of these genetic landmines mauls a child or kills a passer-by. How long, would it be before the appetite for owning such animals dried up overnight?

 

The bravado would vanish the moment the handcuffs clicked shut 

 

 

53 minutes ago, ChrisKC said:

Learn this truth and don't go near one!

Except with a gun to kill it!

On 4/18/2025 at 6:02 PM, steven100 said:

so all the pit bull attacks were because the dog had a sore hip .....

 

garbage talk

 

Did I say all Pit bulls?? I gave one example that happened to my sister and their Rottweiler?  There are probably another 1,000 excuses why a well trained dog suddenly bite no matter what breed.

 

By the way my sister Is a trainer for dog trainers, some call her Dog Psychologist, she also help people owning a "problematic" dog with both dog training and train the owner.