30 minutes ago, 1sickpuppy said:

How stupid are septic tanks

thanks for clarifying the issue so eloquently.

bravo.

5 hours ago, frank83628 said:

The OP claimed trump was snubbed by everyone, he wasn't

The OP calimed Trump was the only one wearing a blue suit, he wasn't. 

Another member said the Vatican dress code was black... it wasn't. All 3 claims have be proven to be lies

 

The dress code was black suit black tie true,all 3 claims are true he is what he is a pariah a vulgarian a liar a fraud a sexual assaulter and a convicted felon.I  did get a chuckle watching the old dotard fast asleep mouth sagging open yup real presidential ehh?the guys a dangerous harmful disgrace.oh and yes he was snubbed bigley massively the biglest ever!as an American it’s absolutely humiliating to have this person representing my country.

2 hours ago, flexomike said:

The OP is obsessed with anything he can make up about Trump

He shows a self ascribed sense of moral superiority.

5 5

2 minutes ago, Tug said:

The dress code was black suit black tie true,all 3 claims are true he is what he is a pariah a vulgarian a liar a fraud a sexual assaulter and a convicted felon.I  did get a chuckle watching the old dotard fast asleep mouth sagging open yup real presidential ehh?the guys a dangerous harmful disgrace.oh and yes he was snubbed bigley massively the biglest ever!as an American it’s absolutely humiliating to have this person representing my country.

Are you saying you don't like trump.?

1 hour ago, placeholder said:

You and Trump should get a room.

And then it should be immediately locked from the outside.

9 minutes ago, Tug said:

The dress code was black suit black tie true

 

   Could you back that up ?

Prove it 

2 minutes ago, papa al said:

Are you saying you don't like trump.?

You are quite perceptive what could have possibly tipped you off?perhaps the betrayal of our allies and nato?the disparaging of our POWs and vets?the clown car cabinet?the coup attempt in 2020? The recklessness with the economy?there’s lots and lots more but hey it’s getting late hope that helps.

10 minutes ago, Tug said:

.I  did get a chuckle watching the old dotard fast asleep mouth sagging open yup real presidential ehh?

 

   Could you post the video up ?

Prove it 

13 hours ago, Tug said:

Did anyone notice how trump was treated by the other world leaders?when President Zelenskyy entered there was a standing ovation as deserved by a man of his (and his nations) courage and stature.when trump entered there was a low growl backs were turned as befitting a man that purposely has created senseless hardship and chaos in the world.I especially enjoyed watching president Marcon shaking Zelenskyys hand and ignoring trumps ……..not to mention the disrespect shown by the blue suit…..making America great again ya say???just sad and humiliating to have this vulgarian representing my country.

Maybe because he shot himself in the foot again, Dresscode required as per Vatican was a black suit, he turns up in the same old blue one

13 hours ago, Tug said:

Did anyone notice how trump was treated by the other world leaders?when President Zelenskyy entered there was a standing ovation as deserved by a man of his (and his nations) courage and stature.when trump entered there was a low growl backs were turned as befitting a man that purposely has created senseless hardship and chaos in the world.I especially enjoyed watching president Marcon shaking Zelenskyys hand and ignoring trumps ……..not to mention the disrespect shown by the blue suit…..making America great again ya say???just sad and humiliating to have this vulgarian representing my country.

Maybe because he shot himself in the foot again, Dresscode required as per Vatican was a black suit, he turns up in the same old blue one

Just now, still kicking said:

, Dresscode required as per Vatican was a black suit, 

 

   No it wasn't  

1 minute ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   No it wasn't  

Maybe not for MAGA supporters 

5 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   No it wasn't  

Unlike the majority of other guests, Mr. Trump opted for a royal blue suit and tie, as opposed to a darker hue and black tie - the required dress code issued by Vatican 

4 minutes ago, still kicking said:

Maybe not for MAGA supporters 

 

  Not for MAGA or  anyone else 

There was no Black clothes dress code for the funeral

2 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

  Not for MAGA or  anyone else 

There was no Black clothes dress code for the funeral

 

Unlike the majority of other guests, Mr. Trump opted for a royal blue suit and tie, as opposed to a darker hue and black tie - the required dress code issued by Vatican 

Just now, still kicking said:

 

Unlike the majority of other guests, Mr. Trump opted for a royal blue suit and tie, as opposed to a darker hue and black tie - the required dress code issued by Vatican 

Give it a rest Joe Biden, this whole thread was dohe on page 1 whee the whole thing was proved false

2 minutes ago, still kicking said:

 

Unlike the majority of other guests, Mr. Trump opted for a royal blue suit and tie, as opposed to a darker hue and black tie - the required dress code issued by Vatican 

 

Because he's the boss. As the Top G he can wear anything he likes.

 

Nobody tells Trump what to do.

7 minutes ago, still kicking said:

Unlike the majority of other guests, Mr. Trump opted for a royal blue suit and tie, as opposed to a darker hue and black tie - the required dress code issued by Vatican 

Said who?

13 hours ago, Tug said:

Did anyone notice how trump was treated by the other world leaders?when President Zelenskyy entered there was a standing ovation as deserved by a man of his (and his nations) courage and stature.when trump entered there was a low growl backs were turned as befitting a man that purposely has created senseless hardship and chaos in the world.I especially enjoyed watching president Marcon shaking Zelenskyys hand and ignoring trumps ……..not to mention the disrespect shown by the blue suit…..making America great again ya say???just sad and humiliating to have this vulgarian representing my country.

 

yea, but you guys voted for him, everyone else in the world seemed to know what what was in store.

2 minutes ago, still kicking said:

 

Unlike the majority of other guests, Mr. Trump opted for a royal blue suit and tie, as opposed to a darker hue and black tie - the required dress code issued by Vatican 

 

   I simply refuse to get into a discussion about the shade of Donald Trump's suite , whether it was Royal blue or Pale blue or whatever .

   That's girly talk , Men dont talk about things like that 

27 minutes ago, still kicking said:

Maybe because he shot himself in the foot again, Dresscode required as per Vatican was a black suit, he turns up in the same old blue one

papa believes a dress code violation justifies impeachment,

no doubt.

get that rat bass turd.

1 hour ago, tilaceer said:

So you are postulating that a couple of  quickly taken photographs of anyone supposedly sleeping cannot ever be taken as confirmation that person was asleep ?

 

No, I said, "Photos only show a fraction of a second of time.  You're allowing yourself to be fooled by the illusion of a still image making you think that what is seen happened for an extended period of time."

 

It depends on the photo.  Technically, you can never prove that someone is sleeping in a photo, as even if someone is laying down with their eyes shut, they might still be awake.

 

1 hour ago, tilaceer said:

Where do you draw the line on what single still image illusion can be taken as proof ?

 

Anything where someone tries to claim the photo shows more than it does, like you did.

 

A photo only shows what is happening for the fraction of a second that the photo has captured.

 

You can try it yourself.  Watch a video of someone talking and pause it, advance frame by frame and you will see their face contort into all kinds of bizarre shapes and expressions.

 

2 hours ago, tilaceer said:

I suspect the courts would love this as a defence strategy.

 

The photo you claim shows Trump sleeping would probably not prove to a court that he was sleeping.

7 pages later,  on a thread that was debunked after 6 comments on page 1... 🙄 guess that shows something at least. 

2 hours ago, Tug said:

The dress code was black suit black tie true,all 3 claims are true he is what he is a pariah a vulgarian a liar a fraud a sexual assaulter and a convicted felon.I  did get a chuckle watching the old dotard fast asleep mouth sagging open yup real presidential ehh?the guys a dangerous harmful disgrace.oh and yes he was snubbed bigley massively the biglest ever!as an American it’s absolutely humiliating to have this person representing my country.

What was Prince William wearing? Any toys out the pram about that? Oh...

1 hour ago, BangkokReady said:

 

No, I said, "Photos only show a fraction of a second of time.  You're allowing yourself to be fooled by the illusion of a still image making you think that what is seen happened for an extended period of time."

 

It depends on the photo.  Technically, you can never prove that someone is sleeping in a photo, as even if someone is laying down with their eyes shut, they might still be awake.

 

 

Anything where someone tries to claim the photo shows more than it does, like you did.

 

A photo only shows what is happening for the fraction of a second that the photo has captured.

 

You can try it yourself.  Watch a video of someone talking and pause it, advance frame by frame and you will see their face contort into all kinds of bizarre shapes and expressions.

 

 

The photo you claim shows Trump sleeping would probably not prove to a court that he was sleeping.

What ????
This would have to be the most bizarre explanation of why it cannot be surmised that Trump was possibly asleep at the time the picture was taken.
So far we have:
1. The pictures are fake having been edited by AI or photoshop, etc.
     (How original for a MAGA).
2. Trump could not possibly be asleep as he is sitting unsupported.
    (We all know that it is impossible to fall asleep whilst in a sitting position, don't we ?)
3. As the picture is only a snapshot of a point in time, we are possibly fooled into thinking that this image lasted longer than the shutter speed of the camera,     (based on the notion that, when somebody talks, their face distorts into bizarre shapes)
   So forget the nonsense about the face distorting.
   Look at the pictures below,(from a neutral standpoint), and ask your self, "If I was shown these pictures and asked what do I think the man in these pictures is doing, based on the information contained in the WHOLE picture, I could surmise that he was........"

The images do not prove he was sleeping, (that is not my argument), but what could be reasonably deduced from the information contained within ?

If you still wish to standby the snapshot, point in time, theory rather than make a deduction based on the total scene, then you would have to agree
that those pictures of Biden "sleeping" were erroneous as well, would you not ?

I simply do not understand why  Trump supporters will go to these extreme lengths to try and twist the narrative.

7 hours ago, placeholder said:

I wasn't inventing outrage. I was pointing out hypocrisy. All those right wingers who justified the ambush of Zelensky at the White House by saying that his clothing was disrespectful.  They threw hissy fits about Zelensky's attire but so defensive of Trump. There is one Trump supporter on this thread who actually accused Zelensky of stolen valor. Well actually "stolen valour". He spelled valor the British way.

 

A point which I also agree with...    the distractions are pathetic....   (from both sides).

1 hour ago, tilaceer said:

The images do not prove he was sleeping, (that is not my argument), but what could be reasonably deduced from the information contained within ?

 

A head of state hops across the Atlantic at the drop of a hat,  through half a dozen time zones, spending nine  hours in a trans-Atlantic flight , and (understandably)... nods off for a moment.

Is civilisation really teetering on the brink ???

 

Apparently, falling asleep after an intercontinental sprint isn’t human anymore - it's an "international incident." Who knew?

 

For the record, have any of us sat through a religious ceremony that doesn’t lull us halfway into a coma ???... unless of-course there's a dramatic beheading or a limb flying off....

 

 

And if the best the anti-Trump brigade can muster is screeching about the shade of his suit or the fact he caught forty winks? Then, honestly, their arguments are embarrassing..

 

And... it must be repeated - I'm not pro-Trump or anti-Trump..   I'm just anti-stupidity to the degree that many of the points I'm reading are starting to make me 'anti-anti-Trump'...  because you lot are quite frankly, ridiculous.

 

 

 

 

 

16 hours ago, jerrymahoney said:

Melania looks swell in black -- maybe she is rehearsing.

Hoping and praying

2 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

A head of state hops across the Atlantic at the drop of a hat,  through half a dozen time zones, spending nine  hours in a trans-Atlantic flight , and (understandably)... nods off for a moment.

Is civilisation really teetering on the brink ???

 

Apparently, falling asleep after an intercontinental sprint isn’t human anymore - it's an "international incident." Who knew?

 

For the record, have any of us sat through a religious ceremony that doesn’t lull us halfway into a coma ???... unless of-course there's a dramatic beheading or a limb flying off....

 

 

And if the best the anti-Trump brigade can muster is screeching about the shade of his suit or the fact he caught forty winks? Then, honestly, their arguments are embarrassing..

 

And... it must be repeated - I'm not pro-Trump or anti-Trump..   I'm just anti-stupidity to the degree that many of the points I'm reading are starting to make me 'anti-anti-Trump'...  because you lot are quite frankly, ridiculous.

 

 

 

 

 

 

It must killer with his height....legs all cramped up with 30cm legroom.....then his body jammed into a 40cm wide seat, kids all around screaming........surprised he didn't crash and snore.

6 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

It must killer with his height....legs all cramped up with 30cm legroom.....then his body jammed into a 40cm wide seat, kids all around screaming........surprised he didn't crash and snore.

I don't think he flies cattle class