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Even MAGA Is Up in Arms Over Trump’s ‘Flying Grift’ From Qatar

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19 minutes ago, xylophone said:

Furthermore, trump called the new Syrian Pres "a young attractive, tough guy with a very strong past". That past was killing US troops as well as civilians, women and children. He was in Al Qaeda and the US put a $10 million bounty on his head.

 

The problem is that trump is a brainless moron and is incapable of rational thought or controlling his motormouth.

 

   Moving on from the past and working for peace .

Syria , Saudi and USA making peace , it will alienate Iran 

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    Remember when he said "I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody, and I wouldn't lose any voters, OK?"   This plane is nothing compared to that. NORMAL people understand

  • That wasn't a joke.

  • I call BS on this one.   The MAGAS have put up with constant lies, sexual assaults, paying off porn stars, dodgy vaccines, ripping off contractors, selling of bibles, six bankruptcies, a dro

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2 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Moving on from the past and working for peace .

Syria , Saudi and USA making peace , it will alienate Iran 

And will never last.........that man was a part of Al Qaeda and that he should be praised by a US President is absolutely unbelievable.

2 minutes ago, xylophone said:

And will never last.........that man was a part of Al Qaeda and that he should be praised by a US President is absolutely unbelievable.

 

   He is now leader of Syria and looks like Donald is making peace with Syria and bringing peace to the region . 

the democrat Muppets and the fake news media being the regime media Muppets they are don't get it and they don't want the blue haired liberals morons to get it as well. dumb a$$ democrats, semi retarded Biden preaching tossers. wtf are democrats so dumb and moronic!

 

 

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6 minutes ago, darbie-foos said:

the democrat Muppets and the fake news media being the regime media Muppets they are don't get it and they don't want the blue haired liberals morons to get it as well. dumb a$$ democrats, semi retarded Biden preaching tossers. wtf are democrats so dumb and moronic!

 

 

 

Did you actualy listen to what he said?  "We would strip it and install Air Force One material"  And that woud cost how much?  

 

What's the point of taking this aircraft, lavishly decked out, then stripping all those furnishings out to replace with ...er...what's in the current aircraft?

 

Who is it that is dumb and moronic?

 

PH

3 minutes ago, Phulublub said:

 

Did you actualy listen to what he said?  "We would strip it and install Air Force One material"  And that woud cost how much?  

 

What's the point of taking this aircraft, lavishly decked out, then stripping all those furnishings out to replace with ...er...what's in the current aircraft?

 

Who is it that is dumb and moronic?

 

PH

 

   The U.S Government would pay for that .

Trump then gets to keep the airplane 

1 minute ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   The U.S Government would pay for that .

Trump then gets to keep the airplane 

Presumably, then, the US Government would also pay to remove it all before handover?  And then be left without an Air Force One.

 

Meanwhile Trump openly flouts the Emoluments Clause of the constitution.

 

PH 

12 hours ago, Phulublub said:

 

Did you actualy listen to what he said?  "We would strip it and install Air Force One material"  And that woud cost how much?  

 

What's the point of taking this aircraft, lavishly decked out, then stripping all those furnishings out to replace with ...er...what's in the current aircraft?

 

Who is it that is dumb and moronic?

 

PH

It is normal for inspection and service, as well airlines buys and sell airplanes. Not that uncommon. The special here is the adds ons that needs to be taken apart, searched, inspected and checked for wear and tear, and replaced.

 

6000 - 7000 hours for an normal Boing 777 series

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15 hours ago, darbie-foos said:

the democrat Muppets and the fake news media being the regime media Muppets they are don't get it and they don't want the blue haired liberals morons to get it as well. dumb a$$ democrats, semi retarded Biden preaching tossers. wtf are democrats so dumb and moronic!

 

 

A perfect example of why it's so hard to argue with the MAGA crowd. Their eloquence is just so intimidating.😄

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What's the fuss? It's an entirely transparent gift

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27 minutes ago, Magictoad said:

What's the fuss? It's an entirely transparent gift

True, the graft is completely in-your-face.

Qatar's Gift to Trump Is Unsold Plane It's Been Trying to Dump for Years
Published May 15, 2025 at 6:07 AM EDT

 

The jet, a lavishly configured version of Boeing's largest passenger aircraft, has been lingering without a buyer since being put up for sale in 2020, according to aircraft listings and aviation analysts.

 

Despite its luxury interior, the plane has failed to find a buyer since being put on the market in 2020, according to a report from Forbes.

 

John Goglia, a former member of the National Transportation Safety Board, told Forbes that giving the 747-8 to the U.S. would allow the Qataris to avoid maintenance costs that were only getting higher—with the 747 fleet shrinking worldwide and fewer mechanics available who know how to work on them.

 

https://www.newsweek.com/qatar-gift-trump-unsold-plane-2072564

 

 

8 hours ago, jerrymahoney said:

Qatar's Gift to Trump Is Unsold Plane It's Been Trying to Dump for Years
Published May 15, 2025 at 6:07 AM EDT

 

The jet, a lavishly configured version of Boeing's largest passenger aircraft, has been lingering without a buyer since being put up for sale in 2020, according to aircraft listings and aviation analysts.

 

Despite its luxury interior, the plane has failed to find a buyer since being put on the market in 2020, according to a report from Forbes.

 

John Goglia, a former member of the National Transportation Safety Board, told Forbes that giving the 747-8 to the U.S. would allow the Qataris to avoid maintenance costs that were only getting higher—with the 747 fleet shrinking worldwide and fewer mechanics available who know how to work on them.

 

https://www.newsweek.com/qatar-gift-trump-unsold-plane-2072564

 

 

To add insult to injury seems the trump (administration) has been on a fishing expedition for a freebie as reported by cnn,is this grift another possible quid quo pro?with the added I get to keep it after my term?from the guy who doesn’t pay taxes……wow just wow.

15 hours ago, jerrymahoney said:

Qatar's Gift to Trump Is Unsold Plane It's Been Trying to Dump for Years
Published May 15, 2025 at 6:07 AM EDT

 

The jet, a lavishly configured version of Boeing's largest passenger aircraft, has been lingering without a buyer since being put up for sale in 2020, according to aircraft listings and aviation analysts.

 

Despite its luxury interior, the plane has failed to find a buyer since being put on the market in 2020, according to a report from Forbes.

 

John Goglia, a former member of the National Transportation Safety Board, told Forbes that giving the 747-8 to the U.S. would allow the Qataris to avoid maintenance costs that were only getting higher—with the 747 fleet shrinking worldwide and fewer mechanics available who know how to work on them.

 

https://www.newsweek.com/qatar-gift-trump-unsold-plane-2072564

 

 

 

 

It gets better. The fact it was for sale isn't coincidental either.

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/05/19/politics/trump-adminstration-approached-qatar-jet

 

Full spec from the Sale ad

 

https://web.archive.org/web/20200905142708/https://www.amacaerospace.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/200707_AMAC_Aerospace_Mini_Tech_Spec.pdf

 

 

But does it still have the Northrop Grumman AN/AAQ-24(V)N Large Aircraft Infrared Countermeasure (LAIRCM) system installed?

 

https://www.flightglobal.com/business-aviation/us-clears-sale-of-ir-countermeasures-for-qatari-bbj-747-8is/134462.article

 

 

Even Sam Chui covered it.

The left is up in arms claiming MAGA gives a rat’s about the jet. 

 

If it weren’t for lies, the left would have nothing to say at all. 

 

 

16 minutes ago, mogandave said:

The left is up in arms claiming MAGA gives a rat’s about the jet. 

 

If it weren’t for lies, the left would have nothing to say at all. 

 

 

 

 

Unless you were one of those voters who was working on one of the actual 747s being built as new AF1s to be told they were out of a job, as they don't need the plane now.

 

Laurer Loomer seemed a bit put out by it.

 

 

Ben Shapiro, I think he's one of them, banged on about it

 

 

 

Mark Levin was somewhat perturbed by reports that the President was getting a plane off people he considered evil incarnate.

 

 

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1 hour ago, mogandave said:

The left is up in arms claiming MAGA gives a rat’s about the jet. 

 

If it weren’t for lies, the left would have nothing to say at all. 

 

 

What would you expect any decent lucid American to do when confronted with such obvious corruption?just ignore it?just roll over and give up?let trump turn our government into his personal piggy bank to run into the ground?as he betrays every American ideal?betrays the constitution and our allies?nope don’t think so.

9 hours ago, MicroB said:

 

 

Unless you were one of those voters who was working on one of the actual 747s being built as new AF1s to be told they were out of a job, as they don't need the plane now.

 

Laurer Loomer seemed a bit put out by it.

 

 

Ben Shapiro, I think he's one of them, banged on about it

 

 

 

Mark Levin was somewhat perturbed by reports that the President was getting a plane off people he considered evil incarnate.

 

 

Why is the left all the sudden concerned about Qatar? What about all the money they spend (over a billion) in our universities and all their lobbyists? 

 

The lefts hates Israel and does Qatar. The left loved Qatar when they support Hamas and promote protests at American universities, now all the sudden they’re terrorist. 

 

Too funny 

8 hours ago, Tug said:

What would you expect any decent lucid American to do when confronted with such obvious corruption?just ignore it?just roll over and give up?let trump turn our government into his personal piggy bank to run into the ground?as he betrays every American ideal?betrays the constitution and our allies?nope don’t think so.

 

How is Qatar donating a 747 to the US Air Force corruption? 

 

Was it corruption when Qatar donated the billion dollar Al Udied base?

6 hours ago, mogandave said:

Why is the left all the sudden concerned about Qatar? What about all the money they spend (over a billion) in our universities and all their lobbyists? 

 

The lefts hates Israel and does Qatar. The left loved Qatar when they support Hamas and promote protests at American universities, now all the sudden they’re terrorist. 

 

Too funny 



Oh how I miss that confused emoticon.....

 

Former Air Force officials have said that they doubt the plane could be modified with all the necessary security features before the end of Mr. Trump's presidency.

But one also said the Air Force One is what the President says it is.

So maybe they can dispense with all those security features and Mr. Trump figures who needs all that stuff if he can't get the plane ready soon enough?
14 hours ago, josephbloggs said:



Oh how I miss that confused emoticon.....

 

Oh how I miss leftists that are honest and  capable of critical thinking. 

 

All they can do is lie and regurgitate what they’re told. But oh, how they love emoticons….

2 hours ago, jerrymahoney said:

Former Air Force officials have said that they doubt the plane could be modified with all the necessary security features before the end of Mr. Trump's presidency.

But one also said the Air Force One is what the President says it is.

So maybe they can dispense with all those security features and Mr. Trump figures who needs all that stuff if he can't get the plane ready soon enough?

Did they not look at the same aircraft during the Biden administration? 

What I read is that while Biden was still President, the AIrForce did a search on all non-commercial privately available 747-800 airplanes and they found 8 of which the Qatar was one.
Just now, jerrymahoney said:

What I read is that while Biden was still President, the AIrForce did a search on all non-commercial privately available 747-800 airplanes and they found 8 of which the Qatar was one.

I heard reporting that the Qataris offered it, but I do not know how true it is. 

They likely did -- Qatar has been trying to sell it since 2020 and probably were the other 7.

Trump has said AF One is a prestige item and he is embarrassed with the old crate.

But he may be wanting to start off with a lemon needing huge overhaul.
1 minute ago, jerrymahoney said:

They likely did -- they have been trying to sell it since 2020 and probably were the other 7.

I heard they were down to two, and gave one to (I think) Turkey. I heard this was the last one. 

 

I think FedEx and UPS still use them. A surprising number are still flying.

My last 4 trips RT to USA on Korean were on 747 Seoul to Atlanta.

The last 3 upper deck business all recently outfitted. I spoke with one of the attendants who said she hated the 747 compared to Airbus 380: while the cabin is nice the galley was still 1970's

But that was all pre-Covid up to 2019 and now Korean is retiring their last 4 747's.
7 minutes ago, jerrymahoney said:

They likely did -- Qatar has been trying to sell it since 2020 and probably were the other 7.

Trump has said AF One is a prestige item and he is embarrassed with the old crate.

But he may be wanting to start off with a lemon needing huge overhaul.

The aircraft in question is 13 years old and would require an estimated $1 billion in upgrades to meet Air Force standards. It is unlikely to be ready for use during President Trump’s current term.
 

At the same time, Boeing is converting two new 747-8 aircraft into VC-25Bs — the military variant of the 747-8 and the designated replacement for Air Force One. However, the program is behind schedule, with the aircraft not expected to be operational before 2027 or 2028.
 

Given the age of the Qatari aircraft, the substantial cost of retrofitting, and the timeline involved, waiting for the VC-25Bs remains the most secure and cost-effective course of action.

12 minutes ago, jerrymahoney said:

My last 4 trips RT to USA on Korean were on 747 Seoul to Atlanta.

The last 3 upper deck business all recently outfitted. I spoke with one of the attendants who said she hated the 747 compared to Airbus 380: while the cabin is nice the galley was still 1970's

But that was all pre-Covid up to 2019 and now Korean is retiring their last 4 747's.

I loved the upper deck on the 747, and I got bumped to first with my wife on Thai and got to fly in the nose. Smoothest, quietest ride ever. 

 

I like the 380 business better, but the eco blows. I spoiled flying Emirates business to Dubai every other month for a few years, and to the US a couple times. Best service ever. 

 

Flew Asiana 380s to the US a couple times, okay id a bit spartan. 

 

Korean 747 service was great.

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