Trump on Supreme Court: They should do what I want

[Yagoda]

16 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

and subject to the jurisdiction thereof,

Tell us what that means O constitutional expert. Show us the cases interpreting that.

 

PS, no apology?

[bubblegum]

Toddler-supermarket-fit.

[Yagoda]

44 minutes ago, JAG said:

Looking back over your last 3 posts on this topic, "tossing vitriolic bile" seems to be your forte!

Please cite "vitriolic bile".

[jerrymahoney]

The Executive Order 14156: Protecting the Meaning and Value of American Citizenship outlines two categories of individuals it claims are “born in the United States and not subject to the jurisdiction thereof,” and thus not automatically extended citizenship:

1) a child of an undocumented mother and a father who is not a citizen or lawful permanent resident; and

2) a child of a mother who is a temporary visitor and a father who is not a citizen or lawful permanent resident.

The new order attempts to make ancestry a criteria for acquiring citizenship—it requires children born on U.S. soil to have at least one parent with U.S. citizenship or a green card to be born a U.S. citizen.

https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/research/birthright-citizenship-united-states
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As far as the 'Invasion' executive order, it claims the 1789 Act allows suspension of due process during an "invasion".

[Yagoda]

47 minutes ago, jerrymahoney said:

The big legal question on immigration is whether as in the March 15 exec order there was an 'invasion' as invoked and required in the 1789 Act "by a foreign nation or government."

The above quote was from the JAN 20 Exec Order.

No the big legal question is the Courts power to override the Presidents finding. 

[Chomper Higgot]

8 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

No the big legal question is the Courts power to override the Presidents finding. 

You’re catching on.

 

Trump wants his version of the ‘Enabling Act’ 

 

Unrestricted power, AKA a dictatorship.

[Yagoda]

Just now, Chomper Higgot said:

Trump wants his version of the ‘Enabling Act’ 

Show us where that is proposed. Tell us how an "enabling act" would be constitutional and what it would entail.

 

Otherwise...lying again

 

 

[jerrymahoney]

20 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

1 hour ago, jerrymahoney said:

The big legal question on immigration is whether as in the March 15 exec order there was an 'invasion' as invoked and required in the 1789 Act "by a foreign nation or government."

The above quote was from the JAN 20 Exec Order.

No the big legal question is the Courts power to override the Presidents finding. 

excusez-moi

[Cameroni]

1 hour ago, jerrymahoney said:

The big legal question on immigration is whether as in the March 15 exec order there was an 'invasion' as invoked and required in the 1789 Act "by a foreign nation or government."

The above quote was from the JAN 20 Exec Order.

 

Well P Diddy is being done for racketeering, when the big legal question should have been did he run a criminal enterprise for profit, like a protection racket or something along those lines. Nevertheless, nobody seems to be bothered that this is the legal question, I'm sure the federal lawyers can come up with a similar way to ignore actual law and the real legal questions that  should apply. Appears to work in P Diddy's case.

[jerrymahoney]

Very reassuring to know you are sure.

As to what the feds can do, it has been called an OOPSIE as in a judge saying "You can't do that" and the fed lawyers saying "OOPSIE we've already done it."

[TheAppletons]

49 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

Well P Diddy is being done for racketeering, when the big legal question should have been did he run a criminal enterprise for profit, like a protection racket or something along those lines. Nevertheless, nobody seems to be bothered that this is the legal question, I'm sure the federal lawyers can come up with a similar way to ignore actual law and the real legal questions that  should apply. Appears to work in P Diddy's case.

 

  The Diddler's working on a pardon

    

 

https://www.themirror.com/entertainment/p-diddy-donald-trump-pardon-1156237

[HappyExpat57]

3 hours ago, save the frogs said:

 

stupid backward outdated laws, apparently

 

he is giving a valid reason. 

 

he is not just trying to act like a "dictator" without valid reasons. 

 

that's too deep for you people, right? 

 

 

2 hours ago, save the frogs said:

 

This is from the White House page, which many people will claim is "propaganda".

So in your opinion, every official statement from the White House is lies?

Then how corrupt is the country?

 

Anyway, either this is a lie or if they're telling the truth, there's all sorts of corruption taking place anyway. 

How did all these illegal criminals get into the country in the first place? Rule of law? Bribes? Incompetence? Bending the law? 

Pick your poison. 

 

 

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/protecting-the-american-people-against-invasion/

Section 1.  Purpose.  Over the last 4 years, the prior administration invited, administered, and oversaw an unprecedented flood of illegal immigration into the United States.  Millions of illegal aliens crossed our borders or were permitted to fly directly into the United States on commercial flights and allowed to settle in American communities, in violation of longstanding Federal laws.

 

 

 

Just cuz you don't like the laws does not give you the right to break them no matter who you are.

Is this too deep for you?

 

[proton]

 

[Jim Blue]

24 minutes ago, TheAppletons said:

 

  The Diddler's working on a pardon

    

 

https://www.themirror.com/entertainment/p-diddy-donald-trump-pardon-1156237

Wonder what those two have on their mind !!!!

[billd766]

5 hours ago, Tug said:

Ahh nope you follow the law mr trump it was written by far and away better minds than yours.not to mention your very best pal Mr putin does indeed recruit from his prisons and asylums arms them then turns them loose on their neighbor.you are not a dictator.

I believe that HE believes that he is the leader of the world and that the world MUST do as HE commands.

 

IMHO he is a megalomaniac.

 

From the Oxford dictionary

 

Dictionary
Definitions from Oxford Languages · Learn more
meg·a·lo·ma·ni·a
/ˌmeɡ(ə)lōˈmānēə/
noun
noun: megalomania
obsession with the exercise of power, especially in the domination of others.

[RJRS1301]

4 hours ago, JAG said:

49.8% is not winning the popular vote.

 

 

20 million failed to vote at all

[Dan O]

3 hours ago, Yagoda said:

People that support Illegal immigration and put roadblocks in front of the efforts to correct the problem hate the USA. Here, one of the leaders of that little Hate America club is Tug

The people that hate America seem to be the ones that want to ignore the constitution and bill of rights  and not  follow the laws that created the USA. You and your cult seem to fall into that category. There are legal avenues to follow to accomplish the issues at hand rather than try to just make a feeble demand justified by an inaccurate claim that Trump is trying to do what he was elected to do. He was not elected to ignore the constitution or established laws and just do anything he wants just on a whim or to flex the stupid belief he can just because he's tge president. Moronic logic you all use with those claims. 

[Yagoda]

1 minute ago, Dan O said:

ignore the constitution and bill of rights 

Please set forth the constitutional provisions and "bill of rights" provisions that have been ignored.

 

Any apologies for your defense of Bidens mental acuity?

[flexomike]

3 hours ago, Tug said:

Who’s gonna pick the crops mop the floors do the mundane work?who Mike?I live next to the border my property’s are very near the border im here I don’t see it it’s a problem yes but greatly exaggerated because trump needs it to freak guys like you out.

How big of an impact does it have on our debt. Damn I think we are around 47 Trillion in the hole, it is unsustanable to support 10- 20 million illegals. If that doesn't freak you out than you have the issue.

[cjinchiangrai]

8 minutes ago, flexomike said:

How big of an impact does it have on our debt. Damn I think we are around 47 Trillion in the hole, it is unsustanable to support 10- 20 million illegals. If that doesn't freak you out than you have the issue.

Not only unsustainable but illegal. Illegal immigrants are not eligible for the programs you are talking about. It is a con to convince people that it is OK to defund support for the poor instead of defunding handouts for the 1%.

[jerrymahoney]

25 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Please set forth the constitutional provisions and "bill of rights" provisions that have been ignored.

Judge blocks Trump’s ‘blatantly unconstitutional’ executive order that aims to end birthright citizenship

Updated 3:55 PM EST, Thu January 23, 2025

A federal judge said Thursday that President Donald Trump’s executive order ending birthright citizenship was “blatantly unconstitutional” and issued a temporary restraining order to block it.

 

Judge John Coughenour, a Ronald Reagan appointee who sits in Seattle, granted the request by Washington Attorney General Nick Brown and three other Democratic-led states for the emergency order halting implementation of the policy for the next 14 days while there are more briefings in the legal challenge.

 

“I have been on the bench for over four decades. I can’t remember another case where the question presented was as clear,” Coughenour said.

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/01/23/politics/birthright-citizenship-lawsuit-hearing-seattle

 

 

 

 

[Yagoda]

23 minutes ago, jerrymahoney said:

Judge blocks Trump’s ‘blatantly unconstitutional’ executive order that aims to end birthright citizenship

Updated 3:55 PM EST, Thu January 23, 2025

A federal judge said Thursday that President Donald Trump’s executive order ending birthright citizenship was “blatantly unconstitutional” and issued a temporary restraining order to block it.

 

Judge John Coughenour, a Ronald Reagan appointee who sits in Seattle, granted the request by Washington Attorney General Nick Brown and three other Democratic-led states for the emergency order halting implementation of the policy for the next 14 days while there are more briefings in the legal challenge.

 

“I have been on the bench for over four decades. I can’t remember another case where the question presented was as clear,” Coughenour said.

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/01/23/politics/birthright-citizenship-lawsuit-hearing-seattle

 

 

 

 

Well thats not the final word is it

[jerrymahoney]

No but you gotta start somewhere.

[Cameroni]

2 hours ago, jerrymahoney said:

Judge blocks Trump’s ‘blatantly unconstitutional’ executive order that aims to end birthright citizenship

Updated 3:55 PM EST, Thu January 23, 2025

A federal judge said Thursday that President Donald Trump’s executive order ending birthright citizenship was “blatantly unconstitutional” and issued a temporary restraining order to block it.

 

Judge John Coughenour, a Ronald Reagan appointee who sits in Seattle, granted the request by Washington Attorney General Nick Brown and three other Democratic-led states for the emergency order halting implementation of the policy for the next 14 days while there are more briefings in the legal challenge.

 

“I have been on the bench for over four decades. I can’t remember another case where the question presented was as clear,” Coughenour said.

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/01/23/politics/birthright-citizenship-lawsuit-hearing-seattle

 

 

 

 

 

That's a real shame. There's something very off with people abusing the system and visting the US just so their offspring gets a US passport.

[JAG]

5 hours ago, Yagoda said:

Please cite "vitriolic bile".

As I said, your last 3 posts.

[JAG]

3 hours ago, RJRS1301 said:

20 million failed to vote at all

It was 49.8% of the votes cast.

That is not winning the popular vote.

[Yagoda]

8 minutes ago, JAG said:

As I said, your last 3 posts.

Truth is never vitriolic. Hows the apology coming?

[bubblegum]

3 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Truth is never vitriolic. Hows the apology coming?

How would you know.

[jerrymahoney]

22 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

That's a real shame. There's something very off with people abusing the system and visting the US just so their offspring gets a US passport.

‘Birth tourism’ organizer jailed over scheme to bring pregnant Chinese women to US

 

Los Angeles (AP) 

A California woman was sentenced Monday to more than three years in prison in a long-running case over a business that helped pregnant Chinese women travel to the United States to deliver babies who automatically became American citizens.

 

US District Judge R. Gary Klausner gave Phoebe Dong a 41-month sentence and ordered her immediately taken into custody from his federal court in Los Angeles. Dong and her husband were convicted in September of conspiracy and money laundering through their company, USA Happy Baby. <SKIP>

 

Federal prosecutors sought a more than five-year sentence for Dong and argued that she and Liu helped more than 100 pregnant Chinese women travel to the US. They said the pair worked with others to coach women on how to trick customs officials by flying into airports believed to be more lax while wearing loose-fitting clothing to hide their pregnancies.

 

“For tens of thousands of dollars each, defendant helped her numerous customers deceive US authorities * and buy US citizenship for their children,” prosecutors said in court filings. They declined to comment after the sentencing.

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/01/27/us/woman-sentenced-chinese-birth-tourism-intl-hnk

 

* I read elsewhere that was in part related to coaching on the interview for "What is the purpose of your trip?"

[JAG]

9 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Truth is never vitriolic. Hows the apology coming?

You don't have a monopoly on truth. People can, and often do, interpret events, actions and particularly statements in different ways. Similarly opinions can and do vary. These are things that you cannot accept, and almost invariably trigger a stream of invective, accusations and allegations of lying; presented very often as as stream of vitriol.

 

I actually don't know why I bother replying to you! You invariably end up twisting people's words, and trying to bait them into losing their cool with you - presumably so that you can present yourself, (in true Trump/MAGA style) as the victim of a widespread conspiracy; and I suspect if possible to present to moderators in an attempt to get your opponents suspended!