3 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

 

even if it wasn't entirely what the official narrative claims, you probably underestimate the depth of soul of the elites in thinking they would only do it for financial profits. they already have a million schemes to generate profits. 

 

there might be a more profound reason besides profits, which is elusive to most of us, why it happened. 

 

 

Just listen to Stanley Johnson, Boris' dad:

 

 

1 minute ago, rattlesnake said:

 

Yeah, it was a load of BS. I had an enlightening experience in Ubon, at the height of the psychosis (it was either late April or early May 2020): I had bronchitis, which had degenerated because everything was closed and I couldn't see a doctor.

I was reported anonymously to the authorities (never knew who had done that) and nurses in makeshift HazMat clothing picked me up at home and took me to the hospital for quarantine. When I got there, the place was empty. I had to spend 24 hours in isolation before my PCR test came back negative and I was released.

 

That's when I understood it was a media-driven crisis.

I would tell my friends, but I can't; they have both died of COVID-19, being nearly forty, and  being nurses, 

1 minute ago, still kicking said:

I would tell my friends, but I can't; they have both died of COVID-19, being nearly forty, and  being nurses, 

I’ll take “things that never happened” for $1000 Alex.

6 minutes ago, still kicking said:

I would tell my friends, but I can't; they have both died of COVID-19, being nearly forty, and  being nurses, 

Did they die before or after your tall tale of winning the lottery?

 

 

Hilariously embarrassing thread just in case anybody is interested 😅

1 minute ago, Airalee said:

Did they die before or after your tall tale of winning the lottery?

 

 

Hilariously embarrassing thread just in case anybody is interested 😅

They died in Germany, and why posting the picture, I never posted?

6 minutes ago, Airalee said:

Did they die before or after your tall tale of winning the lottery?

 

 

Hilariously embarrassing thread just in case anybody is interested 😅

 

I had a good laugh, thanks.

10 minutes ago, still kicking said:

They died in Germany, and why posting the picture, I never posted?

Awwww….you’re so cute.  I just want to pat you on your balding wrinkled head and give you a cookie.

5 minutes ago, Airalee said:

Awwww….you’re so cute.  I just want to pat you on your balding wrinkled head and give you a cookie.

Sorry, I am not bold. I get a haircut every 4 weeks and I don't eat cookies 

1 hour ago, spidermike007 said:

I just think the vaccines are barely effective for the current variants. I will never get another one am much more concerned about catching a flu than I am covid.

 

True sterilising vaccines, ie vaccines that stop the onward transmission of a disease, are actually extremely rare. Generally it takes about 20 years of work to arrive at a vaccine that  does that.

 

Take the measles vaccine. Its not a sterilising vaccine. If you take a class of kids, all vaccinated. The measles virus circulates among them. The vaccine isn't stopping that. What the vaccine stops is the development of measles, ie the rash.

 

FWIW, I am currently into day 4 or 5 (maybe day 9 if I count  the asymptomatic period) of my latest Sars-Cov-2 infection. Its a little different from previous this time around, following a whizzbang tour of Portugal and Italy.

 

There are about 25,000 variants in circulation. But like symptoms, there lies the rub.

 

Defining "COVID-19" has always been problematic; we will be more clear what it means in 10-15 years. The official language is problematic. We talk about getting a "COVID test"; the tests do no such thing. All they are detecting is a recent Sars-Cov-2 infection. Its strange, because most people do know, by now, that a HIV test is not an AIDS test.

 

We know when the Measles vaccine works; kids don't come out in a rash. I think a COVID-19 diagnostic definition has to eventually include hospitalisation, ie you don't have COVID-19 if you don't meet criteria for admission to hospital, and that the effectiveness of the resulting vaccines is measured by hospitalisation rates. If you are sitting there, like me, nursing a thick head, dribbling nose and a hacking cough, you don't have COVID-19, though many will big it up a bit to elicit sympathy.

 

The test for attitudes is "I've just had a positive test. I'm off to the supermarket".  Would you? I just did.

 

My wife will wear a mask, mostly when on a motorbike to protect her face, but often when around monks, which is actually the correct reason to wear a mask; to protect others, rather than to protect yourself (I could go into a discussion of filter dynamics, brownian forces, van der waals forces, but it will be fruitless now).

 

10 minutes ago, still kicking said:

Sorry, I am not bold.

 

Oh yes you are. That lottery thread was bold AF.

2 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

 

Oh yes you are. That lottery thread was bold AS.

OK, show your haircut

Here is mine 

1 minute ago, still kicking said:

Here is mine 

 

Please indicate which person is still kicking on this picture.

2 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

 

Please indicate which person is still kicking on this picture.

Why is that important to you? 

1 minute ago, still kicking said:

Why is that important to you? 

 

Four people wearing glasses on this pic. People sure seem to have diminishing eyesight these days. Any insights on the matter?

1 minute ago, rattlesnake said:

 

Four people wearing glasses on this pic. People sure seem to have diminishing eyesight these days. Any insights on the matter?

Yes, most Thais wear glasses 

4 minutes ago, still kicking said:

Yes, most Thais wear glasses 

 

Until recently, most Thais did not wear glasses, just as they did not wear masks.

6 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

 

Until recently, most Thais did not wear glasses, just as they did not wear masks.

Hahaha  all my Thai family wear glasses 

The main reason hospitals appeared empty was, unless you were really sick, why go to a place full of people sick with an easily transmittable illness? Keep in mind that even doctors with full PPE were getting sick and some even dying, from coming into contact with patients.

 

I did need to go to a major hospital in Bangkok in early covid. All the entrances on each floor direct from the car parks were closed except one. The only other entrance was the main hospital entry. You had to complete a questionnaire and have your temperature checked before entering. This was long before covid tests. It was very quiet inside simply because most people didn't want to be even in the same building as anyone with covid. My wife has annual tests she put off for six months for this exact reason. You didn't see people in hospitals with covid because they were kept in isolation wards away from general visitors.

 

In my mooban, five people I know of died from covid within three hundred meters of my house, three I knew well enough to say hello to. Two women in their fifties, and a sixty-year-old lady. They seemed outwardly healthy, but maybe they had some underlying chronic disease I wasn't aware of. A cousin of my wife also died; he was only forty years old, but he was type one diabetic and overweight.

 

35 minutes ago, Airalee said:

If you google “Thailand Covid Field Hospital” (in English or in Thai) you’ll see dozens of photos of empty field hospitals.

 

Try: Thailand + Covid + Carpark + Hospital 

 

29 minutes ago, Airalee said:

Even during smoky season masks weren’t worn much other than the occasional old foreigner.

 

This January, where I live in Bangkok, about half the people wore masks due to the PM 2.5 risk. I can remember it being the same in the months just before covid. It was one reason masks were in such short supply even from the very start of covid.

 

I sometimes wonder if the people who deride ever wearing masks because they have healthy immune systems have spent much time in Thailand when dust levels are 100+ for days on end.  In ten or twenty years' time, don't be surprised at the increase in people with COPD, due to not taking the simple precaution of wearing a mask when outside at certain times of the year, more so if they engaged in strenuous outdoor exercise. 

 

 

12 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

Until recently, most Thais did not wear glasses, just as they did not wear masks.

The majority of older taxi drivers I encounter still do not wear glasses. It likely explains why so many sit so far forward with their nose almost pressed up against the windscreen.

 

Plenty of Thais wore masks before covid. Not as many as the Japanese, but it was quite common on trains and buses.

20 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

 

Until recently, most Thais did not wear glasses, just as they did not wear masks.

Amazing that pre-Covid BTS photos from just 2018 can be shown in a thread and people still perpetuate the lie.⬆️

 

Covid wasn’t entirely a hoax….it separated the honest people from the dishonest ones.

9 hours ago, MaskLover2025 said:

Masks are for cowards and the mentally ill. I was fine with masks for a couple of years, but anyone who wears one now is a complete coward. Simple as that. 

Hey!  I wear a mask most days.  I have a lung illness and need to protect my lungs from the polluted air.

 

Many Thais also want to protect their lungs from the air pollution, or when riding a motorbike etc.

 

I have lived here for more than 23 years and mask-wearing to protect one's lungs from air pollution is almost the norm - it has nothing to do with sheep, vaccinations, brain-washing etc.  It's simply common sense!

 

You simply have no idea of what you're talking about.

 

PS - why do you keep calling a face mask a 'muzzle'.  Your whole attitude is tin-hat delusion.

9 hours ago, MicroB said:

the effectiveness of the resulting vaccines is measured by hospitalisation rates.

But they stopped releasing vaccination status for hospital admissions (and deaths)

 

I wonder why?

 

Oh….that’s right…because they’re a bunch of liars.

 

 

Wouldn't call it a hoax, as the virus does appear to be a real thing. 

 

Definitely call it a fear mongering, money making scam, knock the middle class down a rung or 2, that did more harm to healthy people than good ... IMHO ... emphasis on healthy, that chose the vaccine.

 

The old & sickly were on borrowed time anyway.  One infection away from death, whether the seasonal flu or some other minor bug.

How is anyone in 2025 even discussing this nonsense?  

Despite comprising only 4% of the worlds population, the **United States reported 17% of covid deaths. (over-reporting/counting HOAX)

 

ore than one million Americans have died from COVID-19, the CDC announced on Monday, some 18 months after then-candidate Joe Biden promised to "shut down the virus" as president.

A significant majority of those deaths—nearly 600,000 since January 20, 2021—occurred on Biden's watch. According to his own logic, the president should have resigned a long time ago. During the final presidential debate against Trump in October 2020, Biden argued that any leader who presided over more than 200,000 deaths from COVID-19 "should not remain as president of the United States of America."

 

Certainly a hoax, as was Biden, who could argue otherwise. All covid deaths on Bidens watch occurred post vaccine deployment. Seems the vaccine did not work out too well.

 

**Link: https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/covid?country=USA~THA~OWID_WRL~OWID_EU27~MNP~GBR&pickerSort=asc&pickerMetric=location&Metric=Confirmed+deaths&Interval=Cumulative&Relative+to+population=false

 

 

17 hours ago, hottrader77 said:

Is covid a hoax

No.

An exploit.

13 hours ago, MaskLover2025 said:

It's not a hoax, but the reaction to the virus in East Asian countries is disproportionate to the severity of the situation. There is nothing about the current situation that warrants swathes of people walking around in shopping malls like mindless robots with their beloved muzzles on. You never see anybody in Europe or South America wearing muzzles these days, not even older people. Just proves that East Asians are weak, cowardly, docile, and sheepish. Sorry not sorry.

 

It's a hoax in the sense that it's actually not a real, separate virus, but merely a reclassification of the common cold, flu and pneumonia. 

 

I agree with you on how docile East Asians can be, but this applies only to a few nationalities.

 

You'll see very few masks being worn in Myanmar, Laos and Cambodia. In Vietnam, they're mostly worn while riding motorcycles and among some elderly people in the cities. 

 

Masks are only worn to the extent they are in Thailand, in Taiwan, Japan and South Korea, but Thailand seems to be a little worse than those countries. 

9 hours ago, still kicking said:

Yes, most Thais wear glasses 

 

Most? No. I did a count on several occasions, in Bangkok to gauge what percentage of Thais wear glasses. This was before Covid. I estimated the percentage to be roughly in the range of 25-33% or around 1 in 4 to 1 in 3.

 

An unknown number also wears contact lenses so it's possible up to 50% of Thais, especially those under the age of 45 or so, wear glasses or contact lenses, especially in Bangkok. I think the percentage is slightly lower, though probably similar in other larger cities such as Chiang Mai, Chonburi, Nakorn Ratchasima but significantly lower in the countryside, where it goes down to like 10-15%.

 

Of course some older Thais also wear glasses for reading but they're not worn otherwise.

 

While technically you could be correct in saying "most" wear them since "most" means above 50%, at least if we're talking glasses that are worn all the time and we're excluding reading glasses and contact lenses, it's a significant minority that are wearing them but not yet a majority.

 

In Singapore, Taiwan, major cities of mainland China and a few other countries in the region, I'd say up to 75% of the population wears glasses, especially among those under the age of 40 or 45. 

This is absolutely the wrong place to ask a question like that! 😝🤣 Why you might ask, because, you will get answers from people completely unqualified to answer such a question. Better to ask ChatGPT or Gemini AI

 

Asking a question like that here is like trying to get a drink from a fire hose turned on full.