42 minutes ago, Stocky said:

Likely fewer visitors to the Whitehouse

 

 

 

 

u mean beggars ?

 

worry about the pathetic state of your own country ....

 

 

1 hour ago, ThreeCardMonte said:

I have no guilt for being a white boy.

 

You, on the other hand do.  As the case with the majority of leftists.

 

While mentioning the evil white men of Rhodesia you failed to mention the black on black violence that people like you have a tendency to overlook.

 

 

 

 

 

check out the southside of Chicago crime statistics , black on black crime is a reality the world over

 

White Lives Matter

"They're killing white farmers" is the new 

"they're eating the cats, they're eating the dogs."

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2 hours ago, Hanaguma said:

And we all know that Trump is a world class BS artist. Still, you are not seeing the forest for the trees.  The fact that white farmers possibly in their thousands have been murdered, had their families killed, women raped and abused, property destroyed and stolen, is really not disputed.

 

Not correct. The "possibly in their thousands" is disputed. In fact, based on all the facts and sources available that is a wild exaggeration.

From NYT:
Trump sidekick Elon Musk has embraced the theory (that white farmers are being killed in high numbers), and Trump is pushing it, offering a fast track for asylum to white South African “refugees.” Yesterday, with Musk in the Oval Office, Trump showed to the cameras a picture of people moving body bags, and said “[t]hese are all white farmers that are being buried.” In fact, it was a picture from Goma in the Democratic Republic of Congo, showing humanitarian workers burying bodies in a war zone.

14 hours ago, bannork said:

Oh dear, the Trump fanboys club has been fooled again. When will they learn?

I suggest posters read https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ce81334je72o

Fact Checking Trump's Oval Office confontration with Ramaphos

The rows of white crosses along a rural road which Trump claimed were burial sites of over a thousand  white farmers were in fact a temporary memorial in protest against the murder of one white farming couple Glen and Vida Rafferty, who were ambushed and shot dead on their premises in 2020.

The crosses are no longer there.

 Out of a total of 26,232 murders in South Africa last year, 44 were killings of people within the farming community and of those, only eight were of farmers.

Hardly figures of genocide!

 The image Trump showed which he claimed was evidence of white farmer killings in South Africa isn't from South Africa - it's actually from a report about women being killed in the Democratic Republic of Congo!

 

 

 

What a great post.  It certainly managed to stop the Trump fanboys in their tracks! 👏

10 minutes ago, Peabody said:

From NYT:
Trump sidekick Elon Musk has embraced the theory (that white farmers are being killed in high numbers), and Trump is pushing it, offering a fast track for asylum to white South African “refugees.” Yesterday, with Musk in the Oval Office, Trump showed to the cameras a picture of people moving body bags, and said “[t]hese are all white farmers that are being buried.” In fact, it was a picture from Goma in the Democratic Republic of Congo, showing humanitarian workers burying bodies in a war zone.

Musk lying? What a surprise! 😆

4 hours ago, Hanaguma said:

And we all know that Trump is a world class BS artist. Still, you are not seeing the forest for the trees.  The fact that white farmers possibly in their thousands have been murdered, had their families killed, women raped and abused, property destroyed and stolen, is really not disputed.

 

You may choose to believe the tripe that the SA government puts out, it is in their interests to downplay the problem. Ditto the UN- it kills their narrative when non POC are abused and hurt.  Easier to ignore the problem and dismiss it as @"historical grievance". 

The question is not whether Afrikaner farmers have been subject to numerous targeted killings or not. It is whether it still currently happens (beyond a few murders).

 

Nobody denies that it happened in the past. However, the available data (around 50 farmers' killings per year, both white and black) suggests that it's over.

 

That's why Trump needs to lie by showing pictures from other countries than SA on TV, and also why MAGA fans are posting articles dating from 2017/2018. 🙂

5 hours ago, NickyLouie said:

 

Hi Sherm, the 'dated' article was to prove this has been an ongoing issue, 

 

White Lives Matter

 

 

 

Nah, this is the face of a man who just got hit by the stench of armpit, make-up and butt.

24 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

 

Nah, this is the face of a man who just got hit by the stench of armpit, make-up and butt.

Not forgetting the utter hogwash emitting from his host.

Troll post removed @NickyLouie

In addition, you might want to pay heed to the lived experiences of one of the guests at the meeting, golfer Reteif Goosen. He said that his father's friends (farmers) have been killed, his brothers attacked in their homes, even his elderly mother attacked. They all live behind electric fences, his family have faced theft and arson attacks and it is a "constant battle for survival".

 

Goosen, who is also White, said his father was a land developer and farmer, and that his brothers continue to farm. “It’s a constant battle. They’re trying to burn the farms down to chase you away,” he said. “It is a concern to make a living as a farmer. Without farmers, there’s no food on the plate." Goosen said other farmers have been killed. His family lives behind electric fences, but he said that hadn't prevented his brothers and mother from being attacked in their homes.

 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/05/21/trump-targets-south-african-president-cyril-ramaphosa/83770998007/

 

22 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

In addition, you might want to pay heed to the lived experiences of one of the guests at the meeting, golfer Reteif Goosen. He said that his father's friends (farmers) have been killed, his brothers attacked in their homes, even his elderly mother attacked. They all live behind electric fences, his family have faced theft and arson attacks and it is a "constant battle for survival".

 

Goosen, who is also White, said his father was a land developer and farmer, and that his brothers continue to farm. “It’s a constant battle. They’re trying to burn the farms down to chase you away,” he said. “It is a concern to make a living as a farmer. Without farmers, there’s no food on the plate." Goosen said other farmers have been killed. His family lives behind electric fences, but he said that hadn't prevented his brothers and mother from being attacked in their homes.

 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/05/21/trump-targets-south-african-president-cyril-ramaphosa/83770998007/

 

 

I worked with a couple of white South Africans offshore in Thailand and they had some harrowing family stories, too.  And that was about 10 years ago.

 

I've also read that the vast majority of the expropriated farms have failed miserably.  The knowledge is vested in the white farming families, like it or not.

 

"Ambushed" 😃

 

Trump was a legend. Gave this corrupt racist dictator enough rope to hang himself then played the video of a stadium singing "Kill The Boer" lead by members of government. Libs have no problem with that racist song calling for genocide of white people sung by thousands, but support Lucy Connolly getting almost 3 years for a hurty tweet.

 

SA is a disgrace. It should be called out. The fact that everyone except Trump is ignoring it is a disgrace. Trump goes up in my estimations every day.

 

It doesn't surprise me that Liberals are siding with the regime targeting, torturing and killing thousands of white farmers ahead of Trump though. The left is totally lost. Morally and intellectually. 

 

In Don We Trust. 

 

 

10 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

"Ambushed" 😃

 

Trump was a legend. Gave this corrupt racist dictator enough rope to hang himself then played the video of a stadium singing "Kill The Boer" lead by members of government. Libs have no problem with that racist song calling for genocide of white people sung by thousands, but support Lucy Connolly getting almost 3 years for a hurty tweet.

 

SA is a disgrace. It should be called out. The fact that everyone except Trump is ignoring it is a disgrace. Trump goes up in my estimations every day.

 

It doesn't surprise me that Liberals are siding with the regime targeting, torturing and killing thousands of white farmers ahead of Trump though. The left is totally lost. Morally and intellectually. 

 

In Don We Trust. 

 

 

 

One of the men leading the rally was Julius Malema who left the party in 2012, he has never held an official government position.

He now leads a party called the Economic Freedom Fighters (EFF) which won 9.5% in last year's election, they form part of the Opposition.

Ramaphosa pointed out that the EFF is a small minority party and said that government policy was completely against what Malema was saying.

Another man in the video singing the lyric "shoot the Boer" at a different rally was former President Jacob Zuma who left office in 2018. The video is from 2012 when he was president.

The ANC promised to stop singing the song shortly afterwards.

Zuma subsequently left the ANC and now leads the opposition uMkhonto weSizwe (MK) party, which won more than 14% in last year's election.

 

4 hours ago, Peabody said:

From NYT:
Trump sidekick Elon Musk has embraced the theory (that white farmers are being killed in high numbers), and Trump is pushing it, offering a fast track for asylum to white South African “refugees.” Yesterday, with Musk in the Oval Office, Trump showed to the cameras a picture of people moving body bags, and said “[t]hese are all white farmers that are being buried.” In fact, it was a picture from Goma in the Democratic Republic of Congo, showing humanitarian workers burying bodies in a war zone.

Auch, where waiting for this. Seen the news 10 hours ago it was Congo prints from a YouTube video

8 hours ago, ThreeCardMonte said:

Agreed.

 

And yet I have never seen BLM protest against Black on Black.

 

 

 

There  are regular community events. 

Annual Mothers’ Against Violence Event in Chacago.

The 11 million strong Moms Demand Action is  across the USA and  has multiple weekly events in Illinois, including Chicago.

Here's the current  chapter calendar of events.  https://momsdemandaction.org/about/chapters/

Just now, Patong2021 said:

 

There  are regular community events. 

Annual Mothers’ Against Violence Event in Chacago.

The 11 million strong Moms Demand Action is  across the USA and  has multiple weekly events in Illinois, including Chicago.

Here's the current  chapter calendar of events.  https://momsdemandaction.org/about/chapters/

Are these BLM events? 

 

In any event, it's a bit sad they do not seem to get more press. 

52 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Are these BLM events? 

In any event, it's a bit sad they do not seem to get more press. 

 

The BLM  has transitioned.  It has become a public interest group and focuses on community change, and arts and culture. It's statement of activity is that it is working inside and outside of the system to heal the past, reimagine the present, and invest in the future of Black lives through policy change, investment in our communities, and a commitment to arts and culture.

There is a time for protest and there is a time for building. BLM has moved into a new phase.

 

3 hours ago, ThreeCardMonte said:

“There is a time for protest and there is a time for building. BLM has moved into a new phase“

 

It’s time for building alright.  A new mansion from embezzling donations.

 

Can’t wait to see the new kinder, gentler BLM at the next riot.

You really should learn how to use the forum functions properly.