Is paying the bar to take a girl out of the bar justified? Or just a scam?

[MalcolmB]

I have a “drinking friend” who lives in the UK who has found “true love” in the bar.

He is 58, divorced and seems fairly well off.

She is damn hot, 26 from Burirum province. Friendly, speaks good English, 8 year old daughter lives in Burirum.

He plans to come to Thailand 2-3 times per year. 
She claims to have about 40,000 in debts with crazy interest which is why she is working the bar.

He is going to pay these debts so she can go back to live with her kid in Burirum, and she can get a normal job and he will top up her salary if needed. 
Everyone happy.

 

Except now the bar is demanding 50,000 baht from him so she can go”retire” from the bar. 
And she is agreeing with the Mamasan. “Justified” because Mamasan gave her the job, accommodation, lent her money, bought her clothes etc

It is getting ugly.
He is refusing. Mamasan isn’t budging. 
 

Why can’t she just quit like at any other job? 
Interested to hear views from other bar owners.

Is this standard or are they taking the pi55?

 

 

 

[BritManToo]

10 minutes ago, MalcolmB said:

Why can’t she just quit like at any other job? 

Because she's a scammer, trying to extort money.

Which gives the guy a good warning.

[Hummin]

15 minutes ago, MalcolmB said:

I have a “drinking friend” who lives in the UK who has found “true love” in the bar.

He is 58, divorced and seems fairly well off.

She is damn hot, 26 from Burirum province. Friendly, speaks good English, 8 year old daughter lives in Burirum.

He plans to come to Thailand 2-3 times per year. 
She claims to have about 40,000 in debts with crazy interest which is why she is working the bar.

He is going to pay these debts so she can go back to live with her kid in Burirum, and she can get a normal job and he will top up her salary if needed. 
Everyone happy.

 

Except now the bar is demanding 50,000 baht from him so she can go”retire” from the bar. 
And she is agreeing with the Mamasan. “Justified” because Mamasan gave her the job, accommodation, lent her money, bought her clothes etc

It is getting ugly.
He is refusing. Mamasan isn’t budging. 
 

Why can’t she just quit like at any other job? 
Interested to hear views from other bar owners.

Is this standard or are they taking the pi55?

 

 

 

Another delicate topic from the man himself 👏

 

Impressed

 

What do you think Malcolm?

[brewsterbudgen]

Not a scam.  It's up to him if he wants to pay.  And it's up to her whether she's prepared to walk away from the bar without it being paid.

[henryford1958]

It's a job, she quits end of story. 

[roo860]

Can't compete with Lewie London's topics.

[CharlieH]

She aint looking after no kids, her Mother is, she dont have to pay no bar release either, the whole things is just extorortion wrapped in pretty knickers! 

 

All thats missing from that is the sick buffalo or sick Mother

 

WAKE UP

 

 

[SAFETY FIRST]

34 minutes ago, MalcolmB said:

Mamasan gave her the job, accommodation, lent her money, bought her clothes etc

It is getting ugly.

She can walk away from the bar but she should repay debt, clothing, accommodation etc. 

 

The bar can't hold her hostage. 

 

If you don't compensate the bar they won't re employ her. 

[Gsxrnz]

From Buriram, 26, has money problems, has an 8 year-old daughter and speaks decent English - I think I know her.

 

Does she have a one syllable, three letter name? 

[Hummin]

Watch the bars you frequently visits 1. Every month if they have popular attractive girls. 

 

Or restaurants or any other shop in tourist districts 

 

Some places where they are short of staff, they even pay every 2 weeks, and or allow freelancers to work when they want or need and get lady drinks, % of bar fees.

[novacova]

Let your “friend” go for it, it’ll be a good learning experience for him/you or whatever. Or just find a woman who has her own career in a normal daytime society and a well developed self esteem.

[papa al]

26 minutes ago, Gsxrnz said:

From Buriram, 26, has money problems, has an 8 year-old daughter and speaks decent English - I think I know her.

 

Does she have a one syllable, three letter name? 

me too

[frank83628]

Why on earth do you old guys think these girls like you

[save the frogs]

12 hours ago, MalcolmB said:

Except now the bar is demanding 50,000 baht from him so she can go”retire” from the bar. 

 

Did she sign a contract that states that explicitly? 

 

If not, what is she going to do? Take legal action if you don't pay? 

 

[Dante99]

3 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

 

Did she sign a contract that states that explicitly? 

 

If not, what is she going to do? Take legal action if you don't pay? 

 

Have you ever heard of non-legal action?

 

[Upnotover]

7 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

Why on earth do you old guys think these girls like you

It's an established fact that "damn hot" 26 year olds don't like Thai men, young men, slim men.

[renaissanc]

It sounds like the old, "Tee Rak! My mother's buffalo is sick, and the vet's bill is 10,000 Baht. I don't know what to do ... Tee Rak." scam. She can simply not show up to work one day and go home. Either the mamasan or the bar girl is trying to scam the foreigner. I think that both are probably working together to do so, but certainly the love of his life is. When will foreigners learn not to trust bar girls? ... I guarantee that she will keep squeezing him for money after this matter has been solved. "My brother's motorbike needs to be repaired.", "My dad's hospital bill is (20,000) Baht.", and so on ad infinitum. How many "Tee Rak" foreigners does she have on a string like this at the moment, I wonder?

[proton]

10 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

Why on earth do you old guys think these girls like you

 

They mostly detest the punters and who can blame them. Daft as a goldfish but crafty as a fox they are expert at playing the loyal loving girlfriend until the money runs out. This mug will be paying sinsot and building the slag a house in the village next lol

[Quentin Zen]

1 hour ago, MalcolmB said:

Except now the bar is demanding 50,000 baht from him

 

My first job in the 90's is still demanding payment everytime I go with another firm.   It's a lifelong contract.  In fact, my 9th gf just emailed me for another 239,379 baht in lost appreciation and dinners.   My 374th Tinder match is asking for 80,000 if I choose someone else. 

 

Thanks for paying 50k, but now the debt is 100k.  and my dad owes 39k and my mom 98k and my 8 year old kid now owes 50k.  and our farm owes 799k

 

Mafia?  hey, who knows who owns these bars.   She's a good earner.  lol

 

Hi, nice to meet you.

Can you give me 4 million baht?

What's your name?  I'm Billy Bob

3 million, you ok?

 

 

[save the frogs]

11 hours ago, proton said:

expert at playing the loyal loving girlfriend until the money runs out.

 

Most women anywhere in the world will stop being loyal if the money runs out.

 

Try not to let the money run out ever if you want to have a girlfriend. 

 

But then again, is it wise to take on a woman with serious debts is another matter. 

 

[NanLaew]

48 minutes ago, Gsxrnz said:

From Buriram, 26, has money problems, has an 8 year-old daughter and speaks decent English - I think I know her.

 

Does she have a one syllable, three letter name? 

 

Porn has four letters but.

[DrJack54]

55 minutes ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

If you don't compensate the bar they won't re employ her. 

Finally someone who understands how it works. 

It's all about return to the bar (even bars in the area) if the farang love affair ends. 

AKA : he cuts support. Which of course he eventually will. 

[Hummin]

1 minute ago, save the frogs said:

 

Most women anywhere in the world will stop being loyal if the money runs out.

 

Try not to let the money run out ever if you want to have a girlfriend. 

 

But then again, is it wise to take on a woman with serious debts is another matter. 

 

I can tell you one thing, there are many falang around in Thailand who runs out of money long time before their government benefits arrive for the new months, and these wifes still cares for them, and stuck with them. 

 

Seen it personally, alcoholics, making the woman and her family a living hell, but they still there.

 

There is not one way abuse by Thai women only. There is quite a few lunatics out there who is foreigners to. 

[MalcolmB]

53 minutes ago, Gsxrnz said:

Does she have a one syllable, three letter name?

Her name is not Lek, Fon, Noi, Nut, Nid, Fai, Tip, Sup or Mot.

But it is three letters. 

[HappyExpat57]

The girls are generally under no contractual obligation which would require a purchase of their freedom. They can just walk away, but they will never work at that bar nor any within the jungle telegraph broadcasting range of that bar.

[EVENKEEL]

29 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

Why on earth do you old guys think these girls like you

I can't speak for everyone but at age 67, I'm told frequently I look 45. My usual attire is a freshly ironed dress shirt and slacks with my Italian handstitched loafers....no socks. 

[MalcolmB]

Has anyone ever heard of anyone paying this before?

The bar seems to think it is standard process.

 

The girl is a 9 and the bars main attraction.

The other girls are sort of 6’s

[quake]

7 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

I can't speak for everyone but at age 67, I'm told frequently I look 45. My usual attire is a freshly ironed dress shirt and slacks with my Italian handstitched loafers....no socks. 

 Come on now.

No porkies. have a look. 

 

[quake]

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speaks good English

 

That's a big.

 

[Dan O]

1 hour ago, MalcolmB said:

I have a “drinking friend” who lives in the UK who has found “true love” in the bar.

He is 58, divorced and seems fairly well off.

She is damn hot, 26 from Burirum province. Friendly, speaks good English, 8 year old daughter lives in Burirum.

He plans to come to Thailand 2-3 times per year. 
She claims to have about 40,000 in debts with crazy interest which is why she is working the bar.

He is going to pay these debts so she can go back to live with her kid in Burirum, and she can get a normal job and he will top up her salary if needed. 
Everyone happy.

 

Except now the bar is demanding 50,000 baht from him so she can go”retire” from the bar. 
And she is agreeing with the Mamasan. “Justified” because Mamasan gave her the job, accommodation, lent her money, bought her clothes etc

It is getting ugly.
He is refusing. Mamasan isn’t budging. 
 

Why can’t she just quit like at any other job? 
Interested to hear views from other bar owners.

Is this standard or are they taking the pi55?

 

 

 

She can quit its a scam by the bar. If  they didn't know a foreigner was involved she could just walk away. Both the business and most likely  also the girl are scam and he's falling into the typical trap of a sexpat.