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Any ultraprocessed food is bad - lack of nutrients & too little fibre. Need a range of short-chain-fatty  (SCFAs) to be generated from resistant types of starch (Fructo-Oligosaccharides) FOS, (Galacto-OligoSaccharidess GOS, (Xylo-Oligosaccharides) XOS) inside your gut in order to have good health: Acetate, Butyrate & Propionate in a 3:1:1 ratio.

So these types of resistant fibre that are in your diet come from a range of plant sources: plants in the Alliaceae (Garlic, onions, shallots, etc.), Asteraceae (Dahlias, Thistles (Artichokes, Cardoons), Sunchokes, Sunflowers) and others.

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Even in Europe the people are complaining the bread is not the same as before.

You are what you eat!

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There is a lot of very high quality, whole grain, organic bread available in the US. You just have to read the labels, you just simply have to be conscious and know what to buy and what to avoid. You always want to avoid white flour and nasty oils if possible, they inflict all kinds of harm upon the body. 

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If you make your own bread, you can choose what kind of flour, oil etc you want to put into it. You may have to search around to find what you need. It will most probably e more expensive than the stuff that you can normally buy in shops and supermarkets, but it will depend on how mush bread you eat daily and and much money and time you are willing to spend making your own bread.

 

Generally speaking the last lot of bread I made took about 4 hours and was only white bread. Organic, stone ground, whole wheat flour from Australia was close on 300 thb per 1kg. I used a small stand mixer, a table top oven, a plastic 5 litre mixing bowl (for the bread to rise twice) and 2 small loaf tins and that made about 1.2kg of bread dough.

 

Recipes are freely available on the internet.

 

The cost may be higher if you use imported flours from the internet.

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2 hours ago, Red Phoenix said:

In America what we call bread can't even be considered food in parts of Europe. See, here in America, it's not so much the gluten as what we've done to the grain

 

  • About 200 years ago, we started stripping the bran and germ or the fiber in nutrients to make flour shelf stable, also nutritionally dead

     

  • Because the nutrients were gone, we enriched it with folic acid, which a large majority of the population can't even metabolize

     

Therefore many people experience fatigue, anxiety, hyperactivity and inflammation.

 

  • But then the bread wasn't white enough, so they bleached it with chlorine gas

     

  • The bread didn't rise enough, so they added a carcinogen called potassium bromate, which is banned in several countries like Europe, the UK and even China

     

  • Then we wanted to ramp up production, so we started using glyphosate to dry out the wheat before harvest, causing endocrine disruption and damaging your gut

     

So now you're bloated, brain fogged, tired and blamed gluten. But gluten is just the scapegoat.

 

The real issue is ultra processed, chemically altered, bleached, bromated, fake vitamin filled wheat soaked in glyphosate. This isn't bread.”

 

You just want normal food? Well, you will have to grow it…

 

Otherwise, enjoy your daily poison…

 

unfortunately, the govt spurred on by the food industry, have stripped most of the nutrients from everything edible.  Just look at the lable on any bag or packaged "food stuffs" and most likely you will have no idea even what language those ingredients are but for sure you should then be able to toss that as non-food stuffs.  This is why 40+ Americans suffer from diabetes and even more are grossly overweight!  But there is light at the end of the tunnel for those who know how to read - find the books of Dr. William Li, a noted Harvard heart specialis, and now researcher and while his books have titles of DIET, what he does is tell you what foods can cure and prevent illnesses and the research that proves these claims. At least here in Thailand, there is an abundance of healthy foods readily and cheaply available but if one so desires, those "bad" foods are also around but probably more expensive.  Best of health to all!

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1 hour ago, FlorC said:

Well , we're here in Thailand .

What sh-t do you think they put in farmhouse bread, or bread from Makro/bigc/lotusssss ?

Still edible after 4 -6 days ? Some have this weird after taste too.

Doesn't even taste like bread made in europe.

Cheap Aldi bread is better than this Thai bread.

Actually the healthiest bread to buy and readily available in Thailand is SOUR DOUGH bread.   Some PURE WHOlE GRAIN breads are okay and can be healthy too.   

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2 hours ago, Red Phoenix said:

In America what we call bread can't even be considered food in parts of Europe. See, here in America, it's not so much the gluten as what we've done to the grain

 

  • About 200 years ago, we started stripping the bran and germ or the fiber in nutrients to make flour shelf stable, also nutritionally dead

     

  • Because the nutrients were gone, we enriched it with folic acid, which a large majority of the population can't even metabolize

     

Therefore many people experience fatigue, anxiety, hyperactivity and inflammation.

 

  • But then the bread wasn't white enough, so they bleached it with chlorine gas

     

  • The bread didn't rise enough, so they added a carcinogen called potassium bromate, which is banned in several countries like Europe, the UK and even China

     

  • Then we wanted to ramp up production, so we started using glyphosate to dry out the wheat before harvest, causing endocrine disruption and damaging your gut

     

So now you're bloated, brain fogged, tired and blamed gluten. But gluten is just the scapegoat.

 

The real issue is ultra processed, chemically altered, bleached, bromated, fake vitamin filled wheat soaked in glyphosate. This isn't bread.”

 

You just want normal food? Well, you will have to grow it…

 

Otherwise, enjoy your daily poison…

 

What if I buy whole wheat bread?

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1 minute ago, Presnock said:

still to be healthy and not processed too much it must be whole grain wheat bread.

That’s what I use for morning toast. 

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Just now, Mike_Hunt said:

That’s what I use for morning toast. 

If it is whole grain then still healthy and not over processed so that it would last for many days.

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11 minutes ago, Mike_Hunt said:

What if I buy whole wheat bread?

I think 'buy' is where the problem comes in, if in the USA.   Make your own is only way to ensure what the ingredients are.

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10 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

I think 'buy' is where the problem comes in, if in the USA.   Make your own is only way to ensure what the ingredients are.

If it is WHOLE grain then it is healthier though once they remove the shell and add ingredients it changes.

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2 hours ago, Red Phoenix said:

Joe Rogan Calls Out American Bread…

“Our bread is so fcked — We're fcking poisoned”…

 

 

Again you?

Where do you pick all those nonsense??

Get a real life, mate!

 

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Thai white bread turns into cardboard in a few days.  Even a toaster might not help.

Good bread remains bread, and edible. 

 

 

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