Those who called me a coward will be vindicated by this post. I thought what I would have done in the white guy's situation:

 

1. Don't drive. I've already "not driven" for 11 years here. But, I live in Pattaya and take a lot of girls, so that is another threat vector (girl gets mad, calls some aggressive guy over, or a bouncer at a club instigates etc).

 

2. Don't let them stand behind you. He just kept standing there talking to his thai lady, saying things like "why does he keep punching me?" "He needs to stop!"

 

In that situation I think the best course of action is to give a shocked look and then move away to across to the other side of the crowd, facing his direction but not looking at him.

 

Now he has to actively keep following you even after seeing your stunned look. In the "thai mob" videos I've seen online the Thais seem to see shock and desperation of the person they are group attacking as the sign that it's enough, "they've won." So maybe this does it.

 

3. If the aggressor does follow, now you have permission to run. No one including in Thailand has the right to keep pursuing you to punch you in the back of the head every 30 seconds.

 

There is a legal issue of hit and run but if you call the police (which is what he was doing on his phone) and explain the situation, they should understand.

10 hours ago, Hal65 said:

Those who called me a coward will be vindicated by this post. I thought what I would have done in the white guy's situation:

 

1. Don't drive. I've already "not driven" for 11 years here. But, I live in Pattaya and take a lot of girls, so that is another threat vector (girl gets mad, calls some aggressive guy over, or a bouncer at a club instigates etc).

 

2. Don't let them stand behind you. He just kept standing there talking to his thai lady, saying things like "why does he keep punching me?" "He needs to stop!"

 

In that situation I think the best course of action is to give a shocked look and then move away to across to the other side of the crowd, facing his direction but not looking at him.

 

Now he has to actively keep following you even after seeing your stunned look. In the "thai mob" videos I've seen online the Thais seem to see shock and desperation of the person they are group attacking as the sign that it's enough, "they've won." So maybe this does it.

 

3. If the aggressor does follow, now you have permission to run. No one including in Thailand has the right to keep pursuing you to punch you in the back of the head every 30 seconds.

 

There is a legal issue of hit and run but if you call the police (which is what he was doing on his phone) and explain the situation, they should understand.

Those who called you a coward probably have never fought, much less against a group of opponents. 

 

A former coworker was 6'4" and solid muscle. He was set upon more than everyone else I knew put together.  I consulted him the day after I found myself fighting against 4 young men and asked him about strategy.  He always chose one guy to be his victim, and destroyed that guy's face until the lights went out or the fight was broken up. He was terrifyingly strong and a good boxer. Guys started fights with him because there was glory in beating him and no shame in losing. Going to the hospital for facial reconstruction hadn't entered their calculations.  

 

2 minutes ago, flaming dragon said:

Those who called you a coward probably have never fought, much less against a group of opponents. 

 

A former coworker was 6'4" and solid muscle. He was set upon more than everyone else I knew put together.  I consulted him the day after I found myself fighting against 4 young men and asked him about strategy.  He always chose one guy to be his victim, and destroyed that guy's face until the lights went out or the fight was broken up. He was terrifyingly strong and a good boxer. Guys started fights with him because there was glory in beating him and no shame in losing. Going to the hospital for facial reconstruction hadn't entered their calculations.  

 

What a charming story

3 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

What a charming story

Yes these incidents bring out the soi tough guys posting from their sofas!

This happened with me about in january 2024:

I think I was driving from Chonburi. A 10 km or more motorbike ride tires me out. I was tired and a little angry. I was driving along the beach road. There was a young farmer driving a dirty Honda Wave with a modified straight pipe that was incredibly loud. I showed him the middle finger and pointed at his exhaust pipe. He freaked out. It turns out he was there with his gang. They started chasing me. I tried to escape from them. But at one point the traffic blocked me. The leader was very psychotic and angry (most people who have a Thai wife know what I mean). He ordered his accomplices to attack me. They started to surround me. But I didn’t react at all, not so much because of my courage but because I was very tired from the long road and I didn’t care anymore. I looked into the eyes of one of the accomplices, it was just a child with scared eyes heading towards me. Most likely they had knives and they realized that the time had come to use them. The leader saw that I was not afraid, and his accomplices were afraid to attack me and gave them the order not to touch me. And the green light came on and we drove away.

On 7/4/2025 at 11:51 AM, scubascuba3 said:

It's a sport for the Thais, they just wade in at any opportunity

 

This is more the behavior of wild animals than civilized people.

 

On 7/6/2025 at 6:12 AM, Tarteso said:

I told you every time, reading the news every days; They atack in packs, like Monkeys.

 

Excacly! Thanks god not all act like that.

 

 

On 7/6/2025 at 9:58 AM, StayinThailand2much said:

Why don't foreigners in Thailand have local male friends? This kind of erratic and childish behaviour is, probably, the main reason.

 

this is about me, but I want to add that many (but not all) are also terrible xenophobes. And the source of all this is fear. and
Asians are trivially small and hence their fear.

On 7/5/2025 at 6:22 AM, Mark1969 said:

You left the guy helpless getting punched in the street?

 

I have no respect for you here as a man. Even as an older guy I would have created some sort of distraction. Could have been filming, yelling, anything, running in and dragging the guy away??  Did you even look for a cop or call the police at a 7-11?

Good luck old man 😄 

 

My wife would interrupt if I ended up in a situation, but I have told her, if something happens to me and someone attacking me, your job is to film, and not interrupt. That’s the best thing you can do. If you brave enough, show them you filming, that can stop the violence

On 7/7/2025 at 4:40 AM, flaming dragon said:

I've been back in Canada for 3 months and am enjoying the lack of this kind of <deleted>. No violence

It'll come -

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/school-safety-plan-student-violence-ontario-ndp-1.7318798

What is learned in Schools carries into adult life.

Violence is the all too easy option everywhere these days.

An inflammatory troll post has been removed

3 hours ago, Hummin said:

Good luck old man 😄 

 

My wife would interrupt if I ended up in a situation, but I have told her, if something happens to me and someone attacking me, your job is to film, and not interrupt. That’s the best thing you can do. If you brave enough, show them you filming, that can stop the violence

I would hate to have a guy like you in any sort of risky occupation or in a partner capacity. You may do your duty, but inside it's not in you. They try to weed guys like you out when they hire for jobs that require team functioning or taking risks for other team members.

 

I can understand you wanting to protect your wife however.

1 hour ago, Mark1969 said:

I would hate to have a guy like you in any sort of risky occupation or in a partner capacity. You may do your duty, but inside it's not in you. They try to weed guys like you out when they hire for jobs that require team functioning or taking risks for other team members.

 

I can understand you wanting to protect your wife however.

Easy to say if yiu do not know me. I used to do the grave yard <deleted>s in Oslo east as a security when I was younger, and used to all cinda of conflicts, involving knives, axes, machete and gun. Even did bomb searches, also spent time in the army.

 

I know what risk Im willing to take, and getting involved in a unknown conflict I have no knowledge what caused is utterly plain stupid. For my wife to get involved, is a greater risk for me than dealing with it alone.

 

I am not in my prime anymore, and I know my limits, not a stupid falang think he is like he used to be, and Im 56, someone called out an older guy here to get involved? You?

 

Have you seen the monkeys fighting? Thats how it is on the street in Thailand, same pattern, one to one face to face, nothing happens, you got your back open, and they are more than two, ....

17 hours ago, Gaixare said:

. I showed him the middle finger

What an incredibly stupid thing to do!

I wanted to film it. But last year, when I did film a pushing/light punching match between ladyboys and Indians on Beach road, one of the lbs threw a half eaten ice cream cone at me (missing substantially) and yelled "<deleted> you ni kaw" or something similar.

 

When I started the filming, others were also standing nearby and filming or taking photos. But by the time of the ice cream cone throw, I looked around and no one else was filming / everyone else had already scattered.

 

I've seen thais loudly shout "no photo!" or even attack vloggers filming them. It's just a risk here. Pattaya Thais are a bit worse than Thais elsewhere. They act like street people at times, knowing the police will just let them off and possibly give the fine to the foreigner (only).

 

On 7/15/2025 at 12:07 PM, Gaixare said:

This happened with me about in january 2024:

I think I was driving from Chonburi. A 10 km or more motorbike ride tires me out. I was tired and a little angry. I was driving along the beach road. There was a young farmer driving a dirty Honda Wave with a modified straight pipe that was incredibly loud. I showed him the middle finger and pointed at his exhaust pipe. He freaked out. It turns out he was there with his gang. They started chasing me. I tried to escape from them. But at one point the traffic blocked me. The leader was very psychotic and angry (most people who have a Thai wife know what I mean). He ordered his accomplices to attack me. They started to surround me. But I didn’t react at all, not so much because of my courage but because I was very tired from the long road and I didn’t care anymore. I looked into the eyes of one of the accomplices, it was just a child with scared eyes heading towards me. Most likely they had knives and they realized that the time had come to use them. The leader saw that I was not afraid, and his accomplices were afraid to attack me and gave them the order not to touch me. And the green light came on and we drove away.

 

Ok.