Just now, frank83628 said:

Yeah, didnt think you could write anything of substance. Everyday i check to a comment or 2 of yours, but you never change regardless of the thread topics, back to ignore you go. 🤡

"PROOF", please............

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5 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

After you destroy something, it doesn't exist.  That's kinda the objective...

 

 

No sane, functional person who is tethered even loosely to reality expected there to be any evidence that remained of Epstein's crimes or his death, victims, vids, etc.

5 minutes ago, expat_4_life said:

No sane, functional person who is tethered even loosely to reality expected there to be any evidence that remained of Epstein's crimes or his death, victims, vids, etc.

 

Some of us still hold out hope that there are good people left in gub'ment that have preserved some of the JFK, MLK, RFK, Epstein (et al) evidence.

26 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

 

That being the case, and you may well be correct, I would push like hell, if i were Trump, to get all this out in the open (unless of course it gives him massive leverage over the guilty).

Yeah, me too, however Republicans dont seem to have the same psychotic venomous wrath the dems & MSM do.

20 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

Some of us still hold out hope that there are good people left in gub'ment that have preserved some of the JFK, MLK, RFK, Epstein (et al) evidence.

Most of these cases are not going to affect any living person except the epstein affair and I heard it on very good authority the father of Ted cruz was responsible for JFK

1 hour ago, frank83628 said:

Visit from a journalist... who do you suggest do that?  guaranteed the bosses . of the MSM outlets are all rubbing shoulders with politicians and elites who would also potentially be on the non existent list.

In principle, she is a first hand witness and could probably review a list from memory. What does it matter who tells the truth?

Trump’s Truth Social post just confirmed what we all suspected...
 

‘We have the Greatest Law Enforcement professionals in the World, but “Politics” and Corrupt Leadership often prevented them from doing their job. That is no longer the case, and now, they have been unleashed to do their jobs, and they are doing just that.’
 

Translation:
‘I’ve installed loyalists at the FBI, stripped away oversight, and now they can go after whoever I decide is a criminal — as long as it’s not me.’
 

The irony?
‘Corrupt Leadership… prevented them from doing their job’ — that line says it all.
He’s just projecting — and describing himself.
 

And of course, all roads still lead to blaming Biden.

Trump didn’t drain the swamp — he hired it.
 

The future: History will be rewritten, and truth will be whatever he says it is — because good men did nothing.
 

Ok , this will get removed , so in short :

Epstein had deep connections with CIA / MOSSAD / MI6.

 

Some every weathy persons even royalty is involved.

No we are not going to see head roll.

1 hour ago, Purdey said:

In principle, she is a first hand witness and could probably review a list from memory. What does it matter who tells the truth?

He got arested 6 years to the day, not one MSM outlet has done any credible investigative research into it in all those years, the independent ones that did have been labelled as conspiracy theorists by the MSM and their sheeple followers, (of which there are many here)

Alex Jones was talking about Epstein island, flight logs, blackmail and sex trafficking years before he even got arrested.. mocked by those same people again.

2 hours ago, frank83628 said:

Yes i forgot about the low IQ ers like yourself... i will write it clearly for you.

 

IMO, trump is not involved with Epstein for these reasons

 

1, He banned him from his buildings many years ago, after he allegedly made  comments ragearding someones under age daughter.

2, he doesnt drink so is unlikely to being involved in any parties where both are prevalent.

3, the Democrats and MSM have attacked Trump in every way possible over the years in attempts to stop and jail him, if there was any links to Epstein, theyd have used then by now

(Those are my opinions, if you want to reply, please try and write something in relation to the above, not your usual 1 line, emoji filled rubbish)

Why are you commenting in this thread? Aren't there enough scandals in your own country?

2 hours ago, LosLobo said:

Trump’s Truth Social post just confirmed what we all suspected...
 

‘We have the Greatest Law Enforcement professionals in the World, but “Politics” and Corrupt Leadership often prevented them from doing their job. That is no longer the case, and now, they have been unleashed to do their jobs, and they are doing just that.’
 

Translation:
‘I’ve installed loyalists at the FBI, stripped away oversight, and now they can go after whoever I decide is a criminal — as long as it’s not me.’
 

The irony?
‘Corrupt Leadership… prevented them from doing their job’ — that line says it all.
He’s just projecting — and describing himself.
 

And of course, all roads still lead to blaming Biden.

Trump didn’t drain the swamp — he hired it.
 

The future: History will be rewritten, and truth will be whatever he says it is — because good men did nothing.
 

But but but Trump.

 

I think its obvious to those that use critical thinking that 99% of US politicians are in the pockets of those pulling the strings, there  are 12 lobbyist to each politician

31 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

But but but Trump.

 

I think its obvious to those that use critical thinking that 99% of US politicians are in the pockets of those pulling the strings, there  are 12 lobbyist to each politician

Hi Frank, did you know I really like pizza?

1 minute ago, connda said:

Is it now we should say 

 

Told you so? And the right wings continue their cover ups with distractions blaming the lefties for anything and everything 

7 hours ago, frank83628 said:

Why is Maxwell in jail now, how can you be tried and sentenced to 20yrs for recruting girls if they didnt goto anyone

Just because there isn't (according to the DOJ) a still-existing hardcopy of a client list doesn't mean Maxwell isn't guilty of any crimes.

 

The evidence against her was based overwhelmingly on eye-witness testimony from her victims. A "little black book" with a list of names would not have made much difference.

 

Quote

... what we saw is witness after witness, victim after victim explaining how Maxwell recruited them when they were underage and how she participated in the normalizing of this sexual misconduct, of this abuse, and ultimately participated in the commercial sex aspect of this, so actually facilitating the payment for — in exchange for the sexual abuse.

 

How prosecutors proved Ghislaine Maxwell was Epstein’s ‘enabler-in-chief’

 

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/how-prosecutors-proved-ghislaine-maxwell-was-epsteins-enabler-in-chief

5 minutes ago, GroveHillWanderer said:

Just because there isn't (according to the DOJ) a still-existing hardcopy of a client list doesn't mean Maxwell isn't guilty of any crimes.

 

The evidence against her was based overwhelmingly on eye-witness testimony from her victims. A "little black book" with a list of names would not have made much difference.

 

 

How prosecutors proved Ghislaine Maxwell was Epstein’s ‘enabler-in-chief’

 

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/how-prosecutors-proved-ghislaine-maxwell-was-epsteins-enabler-in-chief

So if the victims gave evidence, why did they also not name those that physically abused them

Maxwell trafficked me to Mr A, B,  & C.

I doubt in many normal situations those that actually had sex with the girls would not be under investigation.

There never was a client list.

 

We are all suffering from the Mandela Effect ...

https://www.britannica.com/science/Mandela-effect

 

 

45 minutes ago, GroveHillWanderer said:

The evidence against her was based overwhelmingly on eye-witness testimony from her victims.

 

Here's a crazy notion....what if these poor victims were asked to 'create a client list' from the events they endured and what they witnessed.

Well if the Department of Justice and the FBI say it, it must be untrue. How are they to be trusted, especially when they're being politicized to the extent that they are right now? 

 

Trump has a lot to answer for, he had a decade long friendship with Epstein, who said on record Don was his closest friend in the world. There's countless amounts of information about Trump having spent an inordinate amount of time at the mansion, and there are flight records showing that Trump flew to Orgy Island at least seven times, possibly many more times than that, and we know what his penchant was for "very young women". 

 

There has been sufficient evidence that point towards the impossibility of committing suicide in one of those cells, you cannot hang yourself from a bunk that's 2 ft off the ground with tissue thin sheets, and high quality video equipment does not simply stop working on its own. There's virtually no chance that Epstein killed himself, just like there was no chance that Kenneth Lay died of a heart attack just before his trial. 

11 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

 

 

There has been sufficient evidence that point towards the impossibility of committing suicide in one of those cells, you cannot hang yourself from a bunk that's 2 ft off the ground with tissue thin sheets, and high quality video equipment does not simply stop working on its own. There's virtually no chance that Epstein killed himself, just like there was no chance that Kenneth Lay died of a heart attack just before his trial. 

 

This is not true.   You are a conspiracy theorist.

32 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

Here's a crazy notion....what if these poor victims were asked to 'create a client list' from the events they endured and what they witnessed.

OK, sure - but how would that affect the current controversy over whether Epstein himself had a client list and if so, where it is?

6 minutes ago, GroveHillWanderer said:

OK, sure - but how would that affect the current controversy over whether Epstein himself had a client list and if so, where it is?

 

True......but at least it would generate a client list based on the recollection of actual victims

1 hour ago, frank83628 said:

So if the victims gave evidence, why did they also not name those that physically abused them

Maxwell trafficked me to Mr A, B,  & C.

I doubt in many normal situations those that actually had sex with the girls would not be under investigation.

At trial, they did say who abused them. They described various instances of sexual abuse by Maxwell herself (in concert with Epstein).

 

Don't forget that they were testifying at the trial of Ghislaine Maxwell, so they were giving evidence against her, not against anyone else.

 

In any event, I don't think we know whether they necessarily always knew the names of any other men they may have been trafficked to.

 

One of the witnesses did mention having met Trump and Prince Andrew but did not allege any sexual abuse by them.

 

These are the four accusers who have testified at Ghislaine Maxwell's trial

 

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ghislaine-maxwell-trial-four-accusers-testify-jeffrey-epstein/

15 hours ago, short-Timer said:

When they talk about client list, they don't mean that Epstein kept a physical client list. It means that someone may have created a list of his clients based on evidence they found when going through Epstein's private sex tape collection. 
 

Coffeezilla explains the whole thing pretty well:

 

 

Nice try.

Bondi says Epstein client list 'sitting on my desk right now,' and is reviewing JFK, MLK files

Bondi herself advocated for the release of the Epstein list in 2024

U.S. Attorney General Pam Bondi on Friday said the Jeffrey Epstein client list is "sitting on my desk right now" and she is reviewing the JFK and MLK files as well after President Donald Trump's earlier directives. 

"It's sitting on my desk right now to review," Bondi told 'America Reports' host John Roberts on Friday. "That's been a directive by President Trump."

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bondi-says-epstein-client-list-sitting-my-desk-right-now-reviewing-jfk-mlk-files?intcmp=tw_fnc

 

Who got to Pam Bondi?

It seems obvious that the 'List' and the truth will never come out as it is far too damaging to the Establishment.  Trump, Clinton, Mossad, most of Hollywood, Wall Street, the Royals... never ending.

It's funny how MAGAs leaders trapped themselves into this!

 

They made up the existence of this list as part of multiple propaganda lies to blame the Dems. And now  MAGA fans are desperately requesting that they publish it!  🤣

Trump supplied the Prince Andrew girl to Epstein so of course he will cover it up.

1 hour ago, candide said:

It's funny how MAGAs leaders trapped themselves into this!

 

They made up the existence of this list as part of multiple propaganda lies to blame the Dems. And now  MAGA fans are desperately requesting that they publish it!  🤣

Epstein and his island have been a topic years before Trump beat that cheating ol' hag Clinton.