First 90 Day and funds are under 800k

[atpeace]

Had a 450k somewhat unexpected expense and my balance will be below 800k tomorrow when I do my first in person 90 day report at Ubon Ratchathani.  I've never been asked for bank info before during my first 90 day.  Have others been asked in the last few years?  I know I might have an issue next year when extending but not really concerned.  I travel often and there are many options available to me as far as the new 12 month extension.  

[DrJack54]

Immigration will not check financial compliance for 90 day report. 

 

14 minutes ago, atpeace said:

I know I might have an issue next year when extending but not really concerned.  I travel often and there are many options available to me as far as the new 12 month extension.

If you have not followed the financial requirements then for next extension either use an agent or exit Thailand. 

Suggest you don't just rock up and apply for another extension when it's due. 

[atpeace]

15 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

Immigration will not check financial compliance for 90 day report. 

 

If you have not followed the financial requirements then for next extension either use an agent or exit Thailand. 

Suggest you don't just rock up and apply for another extension when it's due. 

Thanks for the reply.  I get it 🙂 I have though and will do just that - rockup and apply for the extension.  Done it before with no issues.  If there is an issue, easy fixes for me.  In Ubon, I even made them aware that my balance was not maintained during certain months and was told it was obvious I wasn't using an agent to get around not having the 800k and not an issue. Told me the balance requirements were to make it more difficult to use agents which was obvious to them by looking at my bank book that I was not.  She specifically told me they only cared about it being in the account for 2 months.  

 

Has anyone been asked recently for a bank info during the first 90 day in person?

[Tod Daniels]

36 minutes ago, atpeace said:

Have others been asked in the last few years? 

The ONLY office that gives people a letter stating to come back in 90 days with an updated bank book is Jomtien 

You will not be asked for anything as far as proof of funds up in Ubon when you go to do your 90 day report.

As you correctly pointed out you WILL indeed have issues next year when you go to get your new yearly extension <- because you failed to meet the seasoning requirements of 800K baht banked for 3 months after the extension was issued. BUT you said you have other options so you seem to have it under control 🙂 

[DrJack54]

14 minutes ago, atpeace said:

Told me the balance requirements were to make it more difficult to use agents which was obvious to them by looking at my bank book that I was not.  She specifically told me they only cared about it being in the account for 2 months.

Sounds like DreamWorld. 

14 minutes ago, atpeace said:

Has anyone been asked recently for a bank info during the first 90 day in person?

wont happen. 

[atpeace]

6 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

Sounds like DreamWorld. 

wont happen. 

Thanks for the reply. No it actually happened and makes complete sense to me in 2022 .  Most IO are tyrants and the funds requirements are there for the reason to make it more difficult to use agents or other means.  I seriously doubt I will have any issues in 9 months.   If I do, too many easy fixes for my situation that are easy. 

[atpeace]

18 minutes ago, Tod Daniels said:

The ONLY office that gives people a letter stating to come back in 90 days with an updated bank book is Jomtien 

You will not be asked for anything as far as proof of funds up in Ubon when you go to do your 90 day report.

As you correctly pointed out you WILL indeed have issues next year when you go to get your new yearly extension <- because you failed to meet the seasoning requirements of 800K baht banked for 3 months after the extension was issued. BUT you said you have other options so you seem to have it under control 🙂 

Thanks - not concerned about the extension so I just walk in an do my normal first 90 day 🙂

[DrJack54]

1 minute ago, atpeace said:

I seriously doubt I will have any issues in 9 months.   If I do, too many easy fixes for my situation that are easy. 

Good for you. Why ask for advice if that's the case. 

Without strict financial compliance your next extension should be rejected and would at most immigration offices. 

[atpeace]

Just now, DrJack54 said:

Good for you. Why ask for advice if that's the case. 

Without strict financial compliance your next extension should be rejected and would at most immigration offices. 

I was asking if anyone had been asked for bank statements during their first 90 days.  Your concerned about my nest extension which I wasn't asking about.  Appreciate the help but again -I'm asking about the first 90 day report which you kindly informed me should not be a concern.  Off for my morning run and then off to immigration - Thanks again

[henryford1958]

42 minutes ago, Tod Daniels said:

The ONLY office that gives people a letter stating to come back in 90 days with an updated bank book is Jomtien 

You will not be asked for anything as far as proof of funds up in Ubon when you go to do your 90 day report.

As you correctly pointed out you WILL indeed have issues next year when you go to get your new yearly extension <- because you failed to meet the seasoning requirements of 800K baht banked for 3 months after the extension was issued. BUT you said you have other options so you seem to have it under control 🙂 

 

I recently did my extension at Jomtien and for the first time they did NOT give me a form asking me to come back in 90 days to verify the 800k.

[Caldera]

52 minutes ago, atpeace said:

Most IO are tyrants and the funds requirements are there for the reason to make it more difficult to use agents or other means. 

 

Maybe I just misunderstand what you mean, but it sounds like you have that upside down. More difficult requirements means that MORE people use agents to circumvent those requirements.

[atpeace]

2 hours ago, DrJack54 said:

Good for you. Why ask for advice if that's the case. 

Without strict financial compliance your next extension should be rejected and would at most immigration offices. 

 

1 hour ago, Caldera said:

 

Maybe I just misunderstand what you mean, but it sounds like you have that upside down. More difficult requirements means that MORE people use agents to circumvent those requirements.

No, you are correct. I miss typed.  I meant to say they are not tyrants.  At least that is my impression outside of Jomtien where it can be challenging conversing with some of the IOs.  To their defense, I don't take the visa process as seriously as I should but that is how I roll 🙂

[atpeace]

2 hours ago, henryford1958 said:

 

I recently did my extension at Jomtien and for the first time they did NOT give me a form asking me to come back in 90 days to verify the 800k.

I was never asked the couple times I did it in Jomtien but that was pre 2020.  Must be a recent requirement .  Not a pleasant office to visit and  I now avoid acquiring a visa from Jomtien which is easy enough.

[Rob Browder]

 

13 hours ago, atpeace said:

In Ubon, I even made them aware that my balance was not maintained during certain months and was told it was obvious I wasn't using an agent to get around not having the 800k and not an issue. Told me the balance requirements were to make it more difficult to use agents which was obvious to them by looking at my bank book that I was not. 

That is the first time I have heard about "leniency" to "generally honest" applicants, who did not keep the funds in-place to the precise day.  Usually any slip-up is a "gotcha," to force you to pay them off via an agent.

[DrJack54]

11 minutes ago, Rob Browder said:

That is the first time I have heard about "leniency" to "generally honest" applicants, who did not keep the funds in-place to the precise day

IMO the report and posts from OP not credible. 

[atpeace]

1 hour ago, DrJack54 said:

IMO the report and posts from OP not credible. 

Based on what?  You are a moderator and behaving childish.  I thanked you for your input but you are bent I don't share your concerns.  What exactly am I being dishonest about? Just a hunch on your part?  Weird ...

[atpeace]

1 hour ago, Rob Browder said:

 

That is the first time I have heard about "leniency" to "generally honest" applicants, who did not keep the funds in-place to the precise day.  Usually any slip-up is a "gotcha," to force you to pay them off via an agent.

How many times have you been asked for 12 month statements?  I never have and only have supplied the proof the funds were there for 2 months and a letter from the bank.  The IO asked why I hadn't applied for a retirement vs an extension and I told her I had let my funds drop below 800k months back.  She simply stated not a problem you have the required in the account for 2 months and that is all we need.  Made complete sense to me and feel confident I could repeat the process.  

[DrJack54]

5 minutes ago, atpeace said:

What exactly am I being dishonest about?

You asked about financials for 90 report.

That was covered/answered in first posts 

Afterwards puff chest and suggest the you can not have financial compliance and it's all ok at Ubon immigration WITHOUT using agent.

Your posts are nonsense. 

 

[DrJack54]

2 minutes ago, atpeace said:

She simply stated not a problem you have the required in the account for 2 months and that is all we need.  Made complete sense to me and feel confident I could repeat the process.  

She is completely wrong.

Either you are confused and unaware of strict requirements or the io is stupid.

Seems you perhaps were only applying for Non O and not 12 month extension 

[atpeace]

4 minutes ago, Celsius said:

Another broke expat using an agent.

 

Then the entire forum will whine in acapella when immigration changes the requirements and makes things more difficult.

 

 

Off for the morning run he goes indicating he is in perfect health and his lifestyle is the envy of others because he just doesn't care

 

Oh know not Celsius.  A definite sign the thread has gone downhill.  Here is my visa bank account today.  I would expect you to call me a liar but Jack was a surprise but oh well.  

 

 

[DrJack54]

11 minutes ago, atpeace said:

How many times have you been asked for 12 month statements?  I never have and only have supplied the proof the funds were there for 2 months and a letter from the bank

For annual ongoing extensions that will NOT cut it.

There are almost daily threads on the financial requirements both retirement and marriage

[atpeace]

10 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

She is completely wrong.

Either you are confused and unaware of strict requirements or the io is stupid.

Seems you perhaps were only applying for Non O and not 12 month extension 

How many times have you been asked for 12 months bank statements?  They need 2 months seasoning and a letter from the bank is my experience.  Tell me I'm wrong but try to refrain form calling me a liar.

[Liquorice]

2 minutes ago, atpeace said:

How many times have you been asked for 12 months bank statements?  They need 2 months seasoning and a letter from the bank is my experience.  Tell me I'm wrong but try to refrain form calling me a liar.

 

18 minutes ago, atpeace said:

The IO asked why I hadn't applied for a retirement vs an extension

That makes no sense at all.

Did you apply for the Non O based on retirement or the 1 year extension of stay?

[DrJack54]

1 minute ago, atpeace said:

Tell me I'm wrong but try to refrain form calling me a liar.

I never stated liar. I stated not credible.

What you seem to be describing is obtaining a 12 month extension by showing 800k+ in bank two months prior to application...

Then with Zero intention of applying for ongoing extensions based on retirement. Hence not maintaining compliance.

Nothing new nothing clever. 

Note you would technically be on overstay. 

My concern is correct info for the forum and your posts are not doing that

 

 

[atpeace]

14 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

You asked about financials for 90 report.

That was covered/answered in first posts 

Afterwards puff chest and suggest the you can not have financial compliance and it's all ok at Ubon immigration WITHOUT using agent.

Your posts are nonsense. 

 

No agents in Ubon that I'm aware of and that is exactly what I did. I provided proof of 2 months seasoning and the normal letter from the bank.  Actually had them print out 2 months of statements because my bank book had gaps because I hadn't updated it in around 8 months and  it didn't show 2 months seasoning.  I really don't think this a rare occurrence but hey I definitely could be wrong.  Still weird you called me a liar but whatever floats your boat.  I could just be explaining the situation ineptly but doing my best 🙂

[atpeace]

5 minutes ago, Liquorice said:

 

That makes no sense at all.

Did you apply for the Non O based on retirement or the 1 year extension of stay?

I have that same list.  I have never supplied 12 months of statements and just supply the proof the money has been seasoned for 2 months and standard letter from the bank.  At least that has been the case my last two extensions and what I remember was required on previous extensions.  It seems I'm a rarity and everyone else is supplying bank statements for 12 months.  I keep asking other to verify they have done this but nobody has confirmed.

 

Anyhow, thanks everybody for trying to help! I was only concerned about my 90 day report and got the answers I needed. I'm not concerned about my extension.   Bedtime...

[DrJack54]

Just now, atpeace said:

I was only concerned about my 90 day report and got the answers I needed

OP has his question answered.

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