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Thai Activist Proposes Sex Ban for Under-22s to Tackle HIV Surge

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56 minutes ago, Ralf001 said:

With medication, isnt HIV  basically the same as diabetes and hypertension and other common ailments ?

Take a pill (or 2 ) a day and it is all good to live a long healthy life ?

Technnically yes. Except you can't infect others with diabetes if you forget your pills/injection. They are coming with new stuff like PrEP injection and even complete cure though. I think it's just a matter of time before it's history, and it won't be long.

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On 7/9/2025 at 2:30 AM, dinsdale said:

:cheesy::post-4641-1156693976: You can't make this sht up.:post-4641-1156693976::cheesy:

And its not even April Fools day.......

Probably Identifies himself as a Dust bin lid

😂😂😂

 

Good luck with enforcing that! SMH!

Someone with a daughter. Again. The World need stop going round in order to protect his blighty daughter.

 

The Juvenile Mindset of Policy-Making: A Farce in Motion

 

If STDs are a concern, ban sex.
If alcohol causes problems, ban booze.
If road deaths occur, ban driving.

If obesity is a problem, ban food.
If online scams are increasing, ban the internet.
If teen pregnancies are up, ban hormones.
If domestic violence occurs, ban marriage.
If mobile phone addiction is rising, ban phones.
If depression is spreading, ban feelings.
If fake news is a concern, ban thinking.
If people misuse freedom, ban freedom.

 

This is the level of thinking we’re dealing with - reactionary, simplistic, and devoid of any genuine depth or critical reasoning. The root causes are never examined, let alone addressed. There's no discussion about better education, improved access to healthcare, community support, or behavioural awareness. Just sweeping, kneejerk prohibitions that scream: “I have no idea what I’m doing, but I want to look like I do".

 

It’s worrying. These people gain prominence, pushing absurd announcements that make it painfully clear they lack the intellectual tools to govern. Yet no one challenges them - and that’s the deeper rot. In a culture crippled by kreng-jai, where subordinates won’t call out idiocy, even the most moronic policy goes unchallenged. Nobody dares say, “No, boss… that’s utterly dumb”.

 

And so we watch another Emperor strut proudly in his new clothes - stark naked, but surrounded by silence.

On 7/9/2025 at 7:22 PM, snoop1130 said:

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Mongkolkit Suksintharanon | Photo via Facebook/ มงคลกิตติ์ สุขสินธารานนท์

 

A heated debate emerged in Thailand after political activist Mongkolkit Suksintharanon proposed a controversial initiative to combat rising HIV rates. He suggested a legal ban on sexual activity for those under 22 years old, sparking a nationwide discussion.

 

During a recent parliamentary session, Deputy Minister of Public Health Chaichana Daecho highlighted the troubling increase in HIV infections among the youth. Determined to address the issue, the ministry plans to reduce new HIV cases to fewer than 1,000 per year and related deaths to under 4,000 annually. The strategy involves educational efforts targeting university students and distributing free condoms to promote safe sex practices.

 

On July 8, Public Health Minister Somsak Thepsuthin marked the initiative's launch by handing out 3,000 condoms at King Mongkut’s Institute of Technology Ladkrabang. Despite these efforts, Mongkolkit, an advisor within the Democrat Party, expressed his dissent on Facebook. He critiqued the ministry's approach as merely treating the symptoms rather than addressing the root causes.

 

He suggested an alternative: a law barring sexual activities for those under 22, claiming the idea stemmed from a conversation with his daughter. Mongkolkit argued that such a measure would protect youths from HIV, other sexually transmitted infections, academic distractions, and unplanned pregnancies. He also proposed penalties such as university suspensions or expulsions for violators.

 

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Photo via Facebook/ มงคลกิตติ์ สุขสินธารานนท์

 

His post ignited significant backlash online. Many Thai netizens criticised the proposal, questioning its practicality and pointing out potential infringements on personal freedoms. Some even challenged Mongkolkit's own history, asking about his first sexual encounter. Mongkolkit candidly admitted to being 16 at the time, a revelation that only fuelled further scepticism about his proposition.

 

As the debate rages on, it highlights the complexities of addressing public health issues like HIV. While the government focuses on preventative measures, discussions on how best to tackle the problem continue to evolve. With varying opinions and suggestions emerging, the challenge remains to find a balanced approach that respects individual rights while effectively combating the spread of HIV.

 

This dialogue underscores the importance of both education and healthy, informed discussions in developing strategies that are both effective and socially acceptable.

 

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The man is delusional

Australia and several other co7ntries have managed to lower inf3ction rates by education, testing, addressing stigma, PreP, education, testing, rinse repeat

Prohibition doesn’t work anytime let alone where hormones are involved.

so eons needs to educate the man

I suggest clarifying the details of this bill to limit the spread of HIV :

1 - Mandatory sex education in schools starting at age 8.

2 - No vaginal penetration without condoms before age 22 unless the spouses are already married.

3 - No vaginal and/or anal penetration with condoms before the end of puberty.

4 - No age limitation concerning masturbation and oral sex.

I think all farang uner the age of 50 should be banned from having sex....Put all  the under 50s in jail for having sex...Then us older guys can have all the stunners...

how. <deleted>. ignorant. 

Mongkolkit Suksintharanon looks like he would not know what to do with a woman if he found one sitting on his face.

10 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

If alcohol causes problems, ban booze.

like this has ever truly been on the table

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1 hour ago, madone said:
11 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

If alcohol causes problems, ban booze.

like this has ever truly been on the table

 

You mean...  kind of like prohibition... 

 

My point, however, was to highlight the absurdity of the measures being taken by drawing attention to similar hypothetical knee-jerk responses that would be equally ludicrous and wildly exaggerated.

 

Thailand has a tendency to sidestep the root causes - issues that require genuine effort and structural change - and instead opts for broad, sweeping actions. In doing so, it repeatedly shoots itself in the foot.

The so-called solutions offered by those in positions of authority are often inverted, misaligned, and strikingly detached from reality.

 

 

8 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

You mean...  kind of like prohibition... 

 

My point, however, was to highlight the absurdity of the measures being taken by drawing attention to similar hypothetical knee-jerk responses that would be equally ludicrous and wildly exaggerated.

 

Thailand has a tendency to sidestep the root causes - issues that require genuine effort and structural change - and instead opts for broad, sweeping actions. In doing so, it repeatedly shoots itself in the foot.

The so-called solutions offered by those in positions of authority are often inverted, misaligned, and strikingly detached from reality.

 

 

 

Thailand the HUB of laughably stupid unworkable corrupt solutions to problems..

Cabbages & Condoms Café .......still going?

 

I know people would have a hissy but, not exactly handing condoms out to "kids", just making condoms 'available' would have a much greater impact than some numpty telling them they can no longer have sex.

 

I can't imagine where young people would get condoms in rural Thailand.

On 7/9/2025 at 10:48 PM, fredwiggy said:

Ridiculous proposal which people will not follow but not really a bad idea if you think of all the unwanted pregnancies it would stop, along with transmission of STD's, allowing the brain to develop more so they can make better decisions about who is allowed to have their bodies.

 

Anyone who has a daughter would like to see them wait as long as possible, instead of allowing a plethora of petulant losers who's only goal is their own orgasm into their child's body, with 95% or more never sticking around if there's that unwanted pregnancy, and not contributing a baht towards the care of that child either.

 

Problem is, it's impossible to enforce, as there's only a few things a boy thinks about when he reaches puberty. Drinking, drugs, sex and video games. 

I was thinking you could have saved yourself time and effort byleaving out the first 2 paragraphs and just going with the last one.

5 minutes ago, Spock said:

I was thinking you could have saved yourself time and effort byleaving out the first 2 paragraphs and just going with the last one.

Just speaking the truth, as all who have daughters understands.

4 hours ago, Will B Good said:

Cabbages & Condoms Café .......still going?

 

I know people would have a hissy but, not exactly handing condoms out to "kids", just making condoms 'available' would have a much greater impact than some numpty telling them they can no longer have sex.

 

I can't imagine where young people would get condoms in rural Thailand.

 

Thanks for the "blast from the past" and yes in answer to your question. (according to the internet)

 

Where I lived in Lanna many years ago. there was a local Cabbages & Condoms Restaurant and Resort on Route 118 (Chiang Mai to Chiang Rai) just south of Wiang Pa Pao. It was very popular with coach parties taking lunch on their way to and from the Golden Triangle and the Doi Tung Royal Villa & Mountain Gardens. I regularly ate there, the food was delicious and the staff very welcoming. Since Covid, I believe the resorts facilities have been refurbished.

 

 

There is another Cabbages & Condoms in Mae Chan on route 1 between Chiang Rai and Mae Sai. 

 

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4 hours ago, Will B Good said:

I can't imagine where young people would get condoms in rural Thailand.

 

   The shops ?

7/11 ?

Health centers ?

That's a ridiculous idea. Unenforceable, impractical, doomed to fail miserably.

 

Maybe some people need to remember that Thailand used to have a very successful HIV prevention campaign. Revive that instead of coming up with comical nonsense. 

On 7/10/2025 at 9:40 AM, impulse said:

There's a lot of old 60, 70 and 80 year old expat geezers praying that this guy won't get his wish. 

 

A lot of them would have to move out of Thailand if he did.

Are you jealous they get more than you.

23 minutes ago, Aussie999 said:

Are you jealous they get more than you.

 

I've never been jealous of hookers or the guys that go that way.  That would be stoopid.

 

 

I was advised that you can get your license at 16,buy alcohol legally at 18 and can vote at 18 but which fool is trying to make having see under the age of 22 illegal.Wake up and be realistic for a change try education.

16 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   The shops ?

7/11 ?

Health centers ?

 

For 'younger' ones, in rural Thailand, they are not really options when you consider travel, stigma and potential embarrassment.  

23 hours ago, Look Chang said:

I suggest clarifying the details of this bill to limit the spread of HIV :

1 - Mandatory sex education in schools starting at age 8.

2 - No vaginal penetration without condoms before age 22 unless the spouses are already married.

3 - No vaginal and/or anal penetration with condoms before the end of puberty.

4 - No age limitation concerning masturbation and oral sex.

Teaching all from the earliest age what is inappropriate touch, who you can trust and that goes with the former lesson.

 

You aren't going to stop sex with anyone, as children learn many things the hard way, but letting them know the consequences with talks on what could happen, and how children aren't mature enough to handle those consequences should they happen.

 

Teaching them that condoms and birth control is mandatory, that you can't trust anyone to follow that advice.

 

No one should have any kind of sex, besides masturbation, before they are at least 17, because there will always be a negative from any, especially concerning the girls, as they aren't mature enough to again understand the consequences and the fact no boy deserves sex unless there is a commitment, which they aren't able to make that young anyway. Of course this is hard to get through to them, as hormones overcome sense, along with peer pressure from those who have had it before and don't really care what it might do to you.

 

Sex between children is never a good idea. The only one who gains from it are the boys, who are almost never going to stay with a girl afterwards, especially if a baby is born. Boys have no idea how to please a girl, let alone care that they do, selfishness being the reason sex happens. There are hundreds of thousands of babies without a father near them, let alone any support,a large percentage coming from teenagers. 

Think of the consequences of that, because if a 20y/o wants sex, the law would prohibit them to buy condoms.  That in itself would lead to more insecure sex and a higher rate of infections.

6 hours ago, Will B Good said:

 

For 'younger' ones, in rural Thailand, they are not really options when you consider travel, stigma and potential embarrassment.  

 

    They can get got for free from health centers in most villages 

20 hours ago, impulse said:

 

I've never been jealous of hookers or the guys that go that way.  That would be stoopid.

 

 

So you're accusing all women that go with older guys, as being hookers...wow, bold statement.

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