2 minutes ago, khunJam said:

People behave differently behind a mask than they do out on the streets. This forum is chalked full of liars, especially from the young men.

I know and it is entertaining watching some of the younger crowd trashing older men dating younger Thais.  Do they really think we can't see the irony in their attitude.  There has to be 10x the number of younger socially inept youngsters here vs the back west that are now gods in their minds.  Clubbing and generally living a life of a real player that was impossible back home.  Not all but MANY.  Good for them but hating on others is silly.

18 minutes ago, atpeace said:

Scandinavia is  amazing IMO except it is frickin cold.  Definitely a success story but when you have small populations and a huge amount of natural resources, you can be extremely wasteful with no consequences.  Now, put 50 million people into the country and see how easy it is to share the natural resources. 100% sure the outcome would be terrible.

 

Nah, it's not "amazing" at all, the food is really bad, it's ice cold as you rightly say, very little daylight, it's a miserable place actually. Not to mention the women are feminist valkyres. No wonder Thailand is full of Swedes, Danes, Finns, and Norwegians.

 

But you hit the nail on the head, thise miniature non-countries, also including Holland, Luxembourg, etc, have it much easier, they can tax and then take care of their handful of people. Their programs would never work for real countries with populations ten times the size.

11 minutes ago, atpeace said:

I know and it is entertaining watching some of the younger crowd trashing older men dating younger Thais.  Do they really think we can't see the irony in their attitude.  There has to be 10x the number of younger socially inept youngsters here vs the back west that are now gods in their minds.  Clubbing and generally living a life of a real player that was impossible back home.  Not all but MANY.  Good for them but hating on others is silly.

Here is an example of an eloquent wise individual.
Our youngsters here on this platform have been dumbdown by their copy paste routine. So obvious and yet they think the no one notices that they are wearing their underwear outside their pants.

13 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

Nah, it's not "amazing" at all, the food is really bad, it's ice cold as you rightly say, very little daylight, it's a miserable place actually. Not to mention the women are feminist valkyres. No wonder Thailand is full of Swedes, Danes, Finns, and Norwegians.

 

But you hit the nail on the head, thise miniature non-countries, also including Holland, Luxembourg, etc, have it much easier, they can tax and then take care of their handful of people. Their programs would never work for real countries with populations ten times the size.

It's nice that some people are agreeing with me today 🙂 I posted a visa question and was torn apart yesterday which was humbling.  Never been to a Scandinavian country so I was just looking at the data and the pretty pics.

14 hours ago, ozz1 said:

Some people will complain about everything no matter where they are in Australia we call them winging poms

 

Q - What's the different between a 747 and a Pom?

 

A - The 747 stops whining when it gets to Sydney.

17 hours ago, SoCal1990 said:

There is a certain type of long-term expat in Thailand who seems to complain about just about everything, the corruption, the traffic, the bureaucracy, the air pollution, the heat, the visa system, the customer service, even about the locals. Some of these types of foreigners have been here for decades, are constantly criticizing the country, but never actually go somewhere else, or back to where they came from, even though they feel unhappy. 

 

If a place makes someone that unhappy, why do they stay? Maybe it's a kind of quiet addiction to the chaos, or even just the comfort of complaining?

 

I suspect there could be some unspoken truth that, despite all the moaning, Thailand still offers a kind of freedom or simplicity they don’t feel they’d find back home and that's why they stay. Or maybe they really do want to leave, but they are simply stuck here for financial reasons. 

There are entire YT channels which do nothing but discourage people from coming and staying in SE Asia.  I use the "block tube" add-on, to remove them from my feed.  Who needs all that negativity?  

 

Yes, there is corruption.  Yes, you need a "Plan B" / C / D to move, in case things (immigration rules, or other) change in ways you cannot control.  And, you should never invest more $$ in a foreign-country, which you cannot afford to lose.  But, being prepared for a "worst case" scenario does not mean living in fear and loathing 24/7.

 

Sure, they could go back "home" and live in poverty on the same income which is multiples of what is needed here.  That is certainly a reason some of those types don't leave.  That's good news for the Thais whose salaries are funded by their spending.  Unless the cost-of-living / quality-of-life balance here approaches the declining state of their (our) passport-countries, they will likely stay.

2 hours ago, newbee2022 said:

Most of those complainers are leftovers, rejected, losers.

They got a divorce in their home country, being kicked off from wife/partner and family, unsuccessful in their former life, looking to start a "new life" in Thailand, believing the grass in Thailand is much greener.

However, running away from their problems, failing in any long lasting relationship, they are up to prostitutes, drugs and alcohol, bragging what exceptional heros they are. In reality poor midgets.

Yeah, they should have just stayed home living in that single room in a house share with the boat people.

 

On the other hand, they could be living a nice life in Thailand on their pension, with a much younger Thai wife and a bunch of new kids.

2 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Yeah, they should have just stayed home living in that single room in a house share with the boat people.

 

On the other hand, they could be living a nice life in Thailand on their pension, with a much younger Thai wife and a bunch of new kids.

If......they would have enough funds, what I doubt watching those fat bellied bald wrinkled grumpy fellows, hunting for the cheapest....food, booze, girls....🤗

20 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

If......they would have enough funds, what I doubt watching those fat bellied bald wrinkled grumpy fellows, hunting for the cheapest....food, booze, girls....🤗

Nothing wrong with being frugal.

Not to mention, age makes most men bald, and many people fat ......

Can't say I judge anyone like that, watching elderly people ain't my thing.

But if a young Thai woman walks past, and she weighs under 50Kg ...... I'll be judging.

8 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Nothing wrong with being frugal.

Not to mention, age makes most men bald, and many people fat ......

Can't say I judge anyone like that, watching elderly people ain't my thing.

But is a young Thai woman walks past, and she weighs under 50Kg ...... I'll be judging.

she weighs under 50Kg ...... I'll be judging.

 

Not easy to see in these days. Many (around up to 40%, what I read) are overweight. Starting in school already.

8 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

she weighs under 50Kg ...... I'll be judging.

 

Not easy to see in these days. Many (around up to 40%, what I read) are overweight. Starting in school already.

Loads under 50Kg here in Chiang Mai.

1 minute ago, BritManToo said:

Loads under 50Kg here in Chiang Mai.

School girls ?😳

2 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Loads under 50Kg here in Chiang Mai.

Plenty in Chonburi too.

 

Filter TF 18 to 25 and under 50kg...tidy flange for miles.

2 hours ago, Cameroni said:

 

Nah, it's not "amazing" at all, the food is really bad, it's ice cold as you rightly say, very little daylight, it's a miserable place actually. Not to mention the women are feminist valkyres. No wonder Thailand is full of Swedes, Danes, Finns, and Norwegians.

 

But you hit the nail on the head, thise miniature non-countries, also including Holland, Luxembourg, etc, have it much easier, they can tax and then take care of their handful of people. Their programs would never work for real countries with populations ten times the size.

Seems you've never been to those mentioned countries.

All your assumptions turn out wrong.

However, enjoy your time in Thailand.

3 minutes ago, Ralf001 said:

Plenty in Chonburi too.

 

Filter TF 18 to 25 and under 50kg...tidy flange for miles.

What is TF btw?

Op, Complaining about people complaining.

What a laugh. Next.

Big yawn, .

 

Though absolute contentment must be a beautiful state of mind, it is not something most of us are blessed with, in case you have not noticed. The fact that I complain, does not mean I do not love Thailand, nor most of it's people. I do. I love my life here. I have a very good life here. But, I do have some complaints, and there are some things I would love to see improved. I should leave because of that? 

 

Having said that I do agree to some extent, complaining is one thing, but whining and moaning all the time is quite another. I may seem obsessed with politics to some, but I'm really enjoying my life here, and I treasure every day that I spend in Thailand. It really beats the hell out of my life back in broken down America. 

 

18 hours ago, SoCal1990 said:

There is a certain type of long-term expat in Thailand who seems to complain about just about everything, the corruption, the traffic, the bureaucracy, the air pollution, the heat, the visa system, the customer service, even about the locals.

If one wouldn't have any reason to complain about "the corruption, the traffic, the bureaucracy, the air pollution, the heat, the visa system, the customer service, even about the [some] locals]" one would have some brain damage, no?

 

And yet this doesn't mean that one can't have some good reason to stay. And most of us have found reasons to complain about the countries we have live in, so why should we shut up about Thailand?

2 hours ago, khunJam said:

2 hours ago, atpeace said:

I know and it is entertaining watching some of the younger crowd trashing older men dating younger Thais.  Do they really think we can't see the irony in their attitude.  There has to be 10x the number of younger socially inept youngsters here vs the back west that are now gods in their minds.  Clubbing and generally living a life of a real player that was impossible back home.  Not all but MANY.  Good for them but hating on others is silly.

Here is an example of an eloquent wise individual.
Our youngsters here on this platform have been dumbdown by their copy paste routine. So obvious and yet they think the no one notices that they are wearing their underwear outside their pants.

 

Both of these posts seem driven by a deep-seated dislike for younger generations, with the authors gaslighting themselves through invented falsehoods to prop up their own confirmation bias.

 

In truth, they simply reveal who the miserable old farts are. Regardless of age; be it young, middle-aged, or olde, decent people tend to get along and approach life with a balanced outlook.

 

As for the idea that there's somehow ten times the number of socially inept youngsters here compared to the West, where they’ve supposedly ascended to godlike status in their own minds - that’s utterly preposterous.

 

Thailand is an ego boost for any man, young or old, who gets called “handsome man” as he walks past a massage parlour, but let's not kid ourselves - the boomers lap it up just as much as the younger lads do. The difference? The younger ones often aren’t paying for the hottie they’re dating. Thailand’s middle class has grown, social norms have shifted, and there’s far more openness now than in years past - it seems some forum members are becoming bitter about this, but they're not seeing more competition, they're just seeing their own decline.

 

I’ve seen it firsthand - been here since my twenties. Now, nearly three decades on, I don’t attract the same kind of attention from the women I’d actually be interested in. These days, it’s more of a passing glance from a working girl hanging off the arm of an ageing expat, seeming to wonder if she could’ve done better. That subtle sideways look from the hi-so stunner in Emporium? That’s a decade long gone gone... 

 

Some older folks grow bitter with age, while others learn to embrace it - it all comes down to outlook. But let’s not point fingers at the younger guys. They’re just doing exactly what you (both above) would have done if you’d been here in your twenties and thirties. And don’t kid yourselves - they’ve got game. It’s just that the game has changed, and they’ve adapted with it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

1 hour ago, newbee2022 said:

Seems you've never been to those mentioned countries.

All your assumptions turn out wrong.

However, enjoy your time in Thailand.

 

I've been to Scandinavia many times, my grandparents owned a house there. We'd spend Christmas in this icy hell hole with its awful food.

 

Scandinavia is one of the worst places in the world.

 

Which explains why all the Scandis come here to Thailand.

4 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

I've been to Scandinavia many times, my grandparents owned a house there. We'd spend Christmas in this icy hell hole with its awful food.

 

Scandinavia is one of the worst places in the world.

 

Which explains why all the Scandis come here to Thailand.

my view is quite different: Clean air, clean sea, food excellent, friendly people. Looong daylight in summer (24Hrs), wonderful snow in winter for skiing, not crowded. sufficient energy.

Actually, what country you're talking of? The Nordic Countries got excellent Health Care, pensions, and reasonable taxes.

58 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

Both of these posts seem driven by a deep-seated dislike for younger generations, with the authors gaslighting themselves through invented falsehoods to prop up their own confirmation bias.

 

In truth, they simply reveal who the miserable old farts are. Regardless of age; be it young, middle-aged, or olde, decent people tend to get along and approach life with a balanced outlook.

 

As for the idea that there's somehow ten times the number of socially inept youngsters here compared to the West, where they’ve supposedly ascended to godlike status in their own minds - that’s utterly preposterous.

 

Thailand is an ego boost for any man, young or old, who gets called “handsome man” as he walks past a massage parlour, but let's not kid ourselves - the boomers lap it up just as much as the younger lads do. The difference? The younger ones often aren’t paying for the hottie they’re dating. Thailand’s middle class has grown, social norms have shifted, and there’s far more openness now than in years past - it seems some forum members are becoming bitter about this, but they're not seeing more competition, they're just seeing their own decline.

 

I’ve seen it firsthand - been here since my twenties. Now, nearly three decades on, I don’t attract the same kind of attention from the women I’d actually be interested in. These days, it’s more of a passing glance from a working girl hanging off the arm of an ageing expat, seeming to wonder if she could’ve done better. That subtle sideways look from the hi-so stunner in Emporium? That’s a decade long gone gone... 

 

Some older folks grow bitter with age, while others learn to embrace it - it all comes down to outlook. But let’s not point fingers at the younger guys. They’re just doing exactly what you (both above) would have done if you’d been here in your twenties and thirties. And don’t kid yourselves - they’ve got game. It’s just that the game has changed, and they’ve adapted with it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Your narcissistic personality disorder is a personality disorder characterized by a life-long pattern of exaggerated feelings of self-importance, an excessive need for admiration young boy.

There’s a lot to complain about in Aus , it has a facade of the good life ,but the under belly of Aus is never shown till the suckers move there and find there’s nowhere to live and the crazy drug users and death stalks the streets ,then they return to the UK

5 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

and reasonable taxes.

 

Hahahahahahaha, that's a good one. 

 

I guess the feminist state doctrine is also reasonable?

 

6 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

food excellent

 

I don't think you can find a worse cuisine then the ones in Scandinavia, the food is terrible. Even Holland's is better, and that's saying something.

 

 

30 minutes ago, khunJam said:

Your narcissistic personality disorder is a personality disorder characterized by a life-long pattern of exaggerated feelings of self-importance, an excessive need for admiration young boy.

 

That was a pathetic, unintelligent, and unfounded dig. Throughout my comments, I’ve consistently pointed out the absurdity of the sweeping generalisations some are desperately trying to shoehorn into this discussion - driven more by bitterness than balanced thinking.

 

Young lads, old lads, and everyone in between - most are decent. The problems come from a handful of losers scattered across all ages. Yet your confirmation bias conveniently focuses only on the misbehaviour of younger offenders, ignoring the fact that older idiots exist too - perhaps because you identify more closely with them.

 

Maybe you’re a bitter boomer trying to live vicariously through a demographic you relate to, which blinds you to the same barstool nonsense and misdeeds you’re so quick to blame elsewhere.

 

You’re also repeatedly attempting to force an argument with me, but instead you underscore your lack of critical thought which is overridden by your bias. Instead of accepting that you might be wrong, you’d rather throw barbs.

 

There are fools in every age group, and the young here are not the sole purveyors of dumbfluckery... far from it IMO.

 

 

56 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

Both of these posts seem driven by a deep-seated dislike for younger generations, with the authors gaslighting themselves through invented falsehoods to prop up their own confirmation bias.

 

In truth, they simply reveal who the miserable old farts are. Regardless of age; be it young, middle-aged, or olde, decent people tend to get along and approach life with a balanced outlook.

 

As for the idea that there's somehow ten times the number of socially inept youngsters here compared to the West, where they’ve supposedly ascended to godlike status in their own minds - that’s utterly preposterous.

 

Thailand is an ego boost for any man, young or old, who gets called “handsome man” as he walks past a massage parlour, but let's not kid ourselves - the boomers lap it up just as much as the younger lads do. The difference? The younger ones often aren’t paying for the hottie they’re dating. Thailand’s middle class has grown, social norms have shifted, and there’s far more openness now than in years past - it seems some forum members are becoming bitter about this, but they're not seeing more competition, they're just seeing their own decline.

 

I’ve seen it firsthand - been here since my twenties. Now, nearly three decades on, I don’t attract the same kind of attention from the women I’d actually be interested in. These days, it’s more of a passing glance from a working girl hanging off the arm of an ageing expat, seeming to wonder if she could’ve done better. That subtle sideways look from the hi-so stunner in Emporium? That’s a decade long gone gone... 

 

Some older folks grow bitter with age, while others learn to embrace it - it all comes down to outlook. But let’s not point fingers at the younger guys. They’re just doing exactly what you (both above) would have done if you’d been here in your twenties and thirties. And don’t kid yourselves - they’ve got game. It’s just that the game has changed, and they’ve adapted with it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Well I'm one of the posters above and I'm not old.  I simply don't make a habit of insulting older people. I've spent the majority of my years since my late twenties in Thailand. I never got pleasure as you seem to condone by  insulting older people.  

 

You state above you don't  attract the women you are interested in.  Below is what you wrote.

 

56 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

I’ve seen it firsthand - been here since my twenties. Now, nearly three decades on, I don’t attract the same kind of attention from the women I’d actually be interested in.

 

 

That is too bad and I feel bad for you.  Not a good place to be in life and hopefully things change for the better. I could never imagine being in your predicament.  Wouldn't want to be you.  

 

As for me, unlike yourself, I still do attract the women I'm interested in and am currently in an incredible relationship with most beautiful women I've ever been with.   You are living in the past it seems and looking for love in the wrong places maybe.  I adapt and enjoy the realities of life today and don't waste the energy as  you seem to on the past.  

 

Some older people like yourself seem to struggle adapting. Again, best of luck regardless.

 

58 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

Hahahahahahaha, that's a good one. 

 

I guess the feminist state doctrine is also reasonable?

 

 

I don't think you can find a worse cuisine then the ones in Scandinavia, the food is terrible. Even Holland's is better, and that's saying something.

 

 

But you're not from UK, are you?

59 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

guess the feminist state doctrine is also reasonable?

What is that? 😳

5 hours ago, khunJam said:

This forum is chalked full of liars, especially from the young men.

 

Exactly what is it you have against young men? You were one once, weren’t you ?

 

Out of curiosity: how old are you? And what, in your view, constitutes “young men” ? 

Are we talking under 30? Under 40? Under 50?

 

It’s just that in several recent threads, you’ve launched into what can only be described as unhinged rants against young men as a group. It comes across as bitter, poorly thought out, and riddled with flawed generalisations.

 

I can’t help but wonder - what exactly is driving this hostility?...

 

 

On this thread we have unhinged posters making any accusations and sweeping negativity against all foreigners. 

.... we have unhinged posters making sweeping negative remarks against Western Females.

.... we have unhinged posters making sweeping negative generalisations against all things Thai.

.... we have unhinged posters making sweeping negative comments against Thai's in general.

 

They all clearly have issues with balance and controlling their bias - so, what triggered your upset agains the 'young' (whoever they are and whatever age 'you' consider as young... ?

 

 

 

Where else would they go? They were married to 1s and 2s back home. Dating a 3 or a 4 is a bonus for them.