Where's the mighty UK & EU navy ?  Engaged elsewhere in battle we haven't heard about, in dry dock for repairs.   Partying in the Caribbean maybe.

 

Leaving their merchant vessel to themselves.   Pretty sad ...

 

... "An officer at Cosmoship Management, operator of the Eternity C, one of the vessels that was attacked, said he desperately tried to get assistance from the British navy and a European naval task force as the fight unfolded. He said he was told there were no ships in the area." ... 

 

Maybe their navy is patrolling the English Channel, keeping them pesky refugees / immigrants that EU let in out of the UK.

 

Does the EU even have a navy ?  All those taxes going to take care of the waves of immigrants allowed in maybe ?   Who can afford a navy.

 

You'd think all the billions made with the shipping industry, they'd have a private navy to secure passage through troubles waters, instead of relying on gov't navies for free security.  Only a few sailors & ships, and don't effect the bottom line.   That's what insurance is for 

Just now, KhunLA said:

Where's the mighty UK & EU navy ?  Engaged elsewhere in battle we haven't heard about, in in dry dock for repairs.   Partying in the Caribbean maybe.

 

Leaving their merchant vessel to themselves.   Pretty sad ...

 

... "An officer at Cosmoship Management, operator of the Eternity C, one of the vessels that was attacked, said he desperately tried to get assistance from the British navy and a European naval task force as the fight unfolded. He said he was told there were no ships in the area." ... 

 

Maybe their navy is patrolling the English Channel, keeping them pesky refugees / immigrants that EU let in out of the UK.

 

Does the EU even have a navy ?  All those taxes going to take care of the waves of immigrants allowed in maybe ? 

 

You'd think all the billions made with the shipping industry, they'd have a private navy to secure passage through troubles waters, instead of relying on gov't navies for free ride.  Only a few sailors & ship, and don't effect the bottom line.   That's what insurance is for 

The world has a bigger mass of water than land, and you want ships parked up at ever corner..........🤣

3 minutes ago, transam said:

I believe the UK RAF was involved with dealing with the Houthis.....🤭

 

Your USA has military stuff/bases everywhere, your USA even wants to buy Greenland, take over Canada.

They even are messing around off the coast of China, and you ask why should your taxes pay for safeguarding shipping from "Iran".............🤣

 

 

 

What transam and other like him are suffering from is a condition called NATOitis. Basically it's the conviction that the USA must be the world's policeman. Not only that, but it must foot the bill itself for the privilege. The only cure to bring these folks back to reality is a sharp curtailment in spending of  US arms, blood, and treasure.

Just now, annotator said:

 

 

What transam and other like him are suffering from is a condition called NATOitis. Basically it's the conviction that the USA must be the world's policeman. Not only that, but it must foot the bill itself for the privilege. The only cure to bring these folks back to reality is a sharp curtailment in spending of  US arms, blood, and treasure.

We can thank President Trump for identifying the disease and beginning to bring about its cure. Even if he has made 1 big misstep so far.

5 minutes ago, transam said:

The world has a bigger mass of water than land, and you want ships parked up at ever corner..........🤣

At least the known trouble spots, major shipping lanes.  

 

Maybe they should register the ships with the USA.  USA registered ship are getting a pass, since Trump gave them a good spanking last month or so.

4 hours ago, connda said:

Anserallah (Houtis) have been up-front with their demands.

Lift the siege on Gaza and allow a free-flow of aid to the Gazan Palestinians and Anserallah will lift the Red Sea embargo.  When Israel honored a ceasefire in Gaza, the Yemeni blockade in the Red Sea ended.  When the ceasefire ended and Israel reimplemented the blockade of aid to Gaza, Anserallah reimplemented the Red Sea blockade.  Just like that.

They can sink ships and launch rockets at Israe but tangle around with Israel and US, and you'll end up like Gaza, Lebanon, Syria,

and Iran.

3 minutes ago, ezzra said:

They can sink ships and launch rockets at Israe but tangle around with Israel and US, and you'll end up like Gaza, Lebanon, Syria,

and Iran.

How's that worked out so far for the Houthis?

5 hours ago, FlorC said:

heading to Israel,

 

 

Ban all trade going into Israel until they stop committing their war crimes and crimes against humanity. 🙂 

16 minutes ago, annotator said:

 

 

What transam and other like him are suffering from is a condition called NATOitis. Basically it's the conviction that the USA must be the world's policeman. Not only that, but it must foot the bill itself for the privilege. The only cure to bring these folks back to reality is a sharp curtailment in spending of  US arms, blood, and treasure.

No, the USA want's to be the worlds' policeman, you haven't realised that yet, then.......

How many subs and naval ships are in the USA pipeline......😂

Just now, transam said:

No, the USA want's to be the worlds' policeman, you haven't realised that yet, then.......

How many subs and naval ships are in the USA pipeline......😂

Just because you have money in the bank, that doesn't mean you have to spend it. Save it for when it's really necessary..

18 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

At least the known trouble spots, major shipping lanes.  

 

Maybe they should register the ships with the USA.  USA registered ship are getting a pass, since Trump gave them a good spanking last month or so.

There are European ships operating in trouble spots..

4 minutes ago, annotator said:

Just because you have money in the bank, that doesn't mean you have to spend it. Save it for when it's really necessary..

Oh, you let folk be killed then, like your Trump stopping military aid to Ukraine because Putin was a nice guy, is chum.............🤣

 

How wrong was he, and made a fool of, when even bystanders could see what Putin was up to..............

Just now, transam said:

There are European ships operating in trouble spots..

Clearly not enough of them. 

 

2 minutes ago, transam said:

Oh, you let folk be killed then, like your Trump stopping military aid to Ukraine because Putin was a nice guy, is chum.............🤣

 

How wrong was he, and made a fool of, when even bystanders could see what Putin was up to..............

Once again, not much of a problem for the USA. Primarily a European problem. Let them take care of it instead of running with their hands out to Uncle Sam, or, rather, Uncle Donald.

1 hour ago, annotator said:

That's why we should be staying out of there. Our interventions bring nothing but misery.

That's a very short sighted point of view.

The Houthis are only Yemeni tribes who have been made militant by the Iranians and Hezbollah. That's where they got their weapons, money & training from. They are part of the old British colony Yemen, of which the capital was Aden. They all settled down for a couple of decades then became empowered by their control of the local water way: The Homuz Straits. What is going to happen next is uncertain. BUT Someone has to bring them back to what they were; a hash smoking peaceful Muslim tribal group. They used to be on the hippy trail but so did Afghanistan!

6 minutes ago, Magictoad said:

The Houthis are only Yemeni tribes who have been made militant by the Iranians and Hezbollah. That's where they got their weapons, money & training from. They are part of the old British colony Yemen, of which the capital was Aden. They all settled down for a couple of decades then became empowered by their control of the local water way: The Homuz Straits. What is going to happen next is uncertain. BUT Someone has to bring them back to what they were; a hash smoking peaceful Muslim tribal group. They used to be on the hippy trail but so did Afghanistan!

Even though your characterization of the situation in Yemen isn't accurate, who cares? Who exactly is that someone who will bring them back to what they were? Seems like nonsense to me. Unfortunately, in the past, that "who" was usually the USA.  And the results weren't good  If some other country or countries want to try it out in Yemen, fine. I just hope the USA stays out of it.

Trump's deal was typically America first so that's that. We all know that since he is the president others cannot rely on the US. Not in economics, not in diplomacy, not in defending democracy, not in being a shining star, not in leading the western world, not in protecting the climate, not in speaking comprehensible, not in following the bible, not in decency not in..everything.

1 hour ago, KhunLA said:

Maybe their navy is patrolling the English Channel, keeping them pesky refugees / immigrants that EU let in out of the UK.

 

More likely they're escorting them, making sure of a safe passage.  Hate to lose any of them to leaky inflatables.

2 minutes ago, bubblegum said:

Trump's deal was typically America first so that's that. We all know that since he is the president others cannot rely on the US. Not in economics, not in diplomacy, not in defending democracy, not in being a shining star, not in leading the western world, not in protecting the climate, not in speaking comprehensible, not in following the bible, not in decency not in..everything.

You ever think maybe it's a good thing that maybe it's a good thing that the "western world", whatever that is, stop relying on the USA and rely on itself or themselves instead?

4 minutes ago, bubblegum said:

Trump's deal was typically America first so that's that. We all know that since he is the president others cannot rely on the US. Not in economics, not in diplomacy, not in defending democracy, not in being a shining star, not in leading the western world, not in protecting the climate, not in speaking comprehensible, not in following the bible, not in decency not in..everything.

 

Why should American taxpayers fund protection of Greek owned, Liberian flagged ships carrying goods that aren't from or to the USA?

 

14 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

Why should American taxpayers fund protection of Greek owned, Liberian flagged ships carrying goods that aren't from or to the USA?

 

They don't and they don't have to, but stop calling yourself the saviour of the human race.

Just now, bubblegum said:

They don't and they don't have to, but stop calling yourself the saviour of the human race.

I don't know who you think is calling themselves the saviour of the human race. It's certainly not President Trump. In fact, he has stopped calling America anything like that. If somebody else wants that job, they can have it.

On 7/11/2025 at 5:05 PM, annotator said:

I don't care who is responsible. I just don't want President Trump to get the US involved. He did a very wise thing by coming to a mutual non-aggression agreement with the Houthis without including Israel or other countries in the deal.

No, the houties need to be b2’d.

5 minutes ago, khunJam said:

No, the houties need to be b2’d.

Right. Because they are refining their stockpile of uranium deep under the desert? And they're using camel power to do it? You seem quite ignorant of the situation there.

 

6 minutes ago, khunJam said:

No, the houties need to be b2’d.

Calling up the Yanks again ... try another AC, as we only bring the B2s out when we need 'em 

1 minute ago, annotator said:

Right. Because they are refining their stockpile of uranium deep under the desert? And they're using camel power to do it? You seem quite ignorant of the situation there.

 

They are a menace and need to be put down. Your bleeding heart has made you ignorant.

22 minutes ago, annotator said:

I don't know who you think is calling themselves the saviour of the human race. It's certainly not President Trump. In fact, he has stopped calling America anything like that. If somebody else wants that job, they can have it.

I just wish, as do many others (people and countries) around the world, that anyone else had it!

1 minute ago, KhunLA said:

Calling up the Yanks again ... try another AC, as we only bring the B2s out when we need 'em 

Anything that works is fine by me as long as their capabilities are hammered out.

Simply put some Apaches or Tigers on a few of those freighters, and they can leap frog to the next few as present freighter leaves the area.   Keeping a constant few 'stationed' where needed.

 

Deploy as needed, as pretty sure they could handle any threats to cargo ships in a timely manner.  Or is too easy a damn solution.

21 hours ago, annotator said:

On May 6, 2025, a ceasefire deal between the United States and the Houthi movement in Yemen—brokered by Oman—took hold, ending the March–May 2025 United States attacks in Yemen, as well as the wider US–UK airstrikes on Yemen since the beginning of the Red Sea crisis. The Houthis agreed to halt their attacks on US vessels but otherwise would continue their attacks on vessels in the Red Sea^[3] and emphasized that the ceasefire did not in "any way, shape, or form" apply to Israel, which had begun launching its own strikes on Yemen.^[4]

^{https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_United_States–Houthi_ceasefire#:~:text=On May 6%2C 2025%2C a,of the Red Sea crisis.}

So trump tacoed the USA to the houthis?abandoned protecting the freedom to navigate on the seas…..you think that’s a win???that’s sad 😞