4 minutes ago, ThreeCardMonte said:

At least it got you off of January 6th for the day 

Must be heartbreaking for a MAGA stalwart like yourself to see all the infighting and the relentless criticizing of The Leader by big MAGA stars as well as his base.

Does it help you emotionally to post all these desperate diversions, buddy?

Trump was at one point friends with Epstein. “I’ve known Jeff for 15 years. Terrific guy,” Trump told New York magazine in 2002, before there were any public allegations of wrongdoing against multimillionaire money manager. “He’s a lot of fun to be with," Trump said then. "It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side."

 

"I was never on Epstein’s Plane, or at his ‘stupid’ Island,” Trump said in a social media post in January.

 

Flight logs released in 2021 as part of Maxwell’s trial, however, indicated Trump flew on the plane seven times. The logs don't include the ages of the passengers, despite Lieu's assertion there were "young girls aboard." The logs indicate that on one of the trips between New York and Florida he was accompanied by his then-wife Marla Maples and their daughter, Tiffany, and another listed his son Eric as a passenger.

 

Something I’ve heard that doesn’t seem to be being covered are the Epstein files. These files were released. Donald Trump is sort of all over this. There are pictures of him with Jeffrey Epstein. He’s taken multiple plane flights with Epstein, with young girls aboard. He’s in call logs with Epstein,” Lieu told reporters Tuesday, urging them to look into the "highly disturbing" allegations.

 

https://www.nbcboston.com/news/national-international/trump-epstein-files-their-relationship-what-to-know/3425592/

15 minutes ago, ThreeCardMonte said:

At least it got you off of January 6th for the day 

Blah blah...😆

There's obviously something in the files that Trump really really doesn't want to see the light of day.

There is no way he would be acting this way otherwise.

But I am confused about one thing.

Bondi is obviously his obedient poodle.

Why doesn't she just wipe the files clean of that stain?

Perhaps there are others who will know if she did that and bust her not literally of course as she's head of the DOJ. 

The plot thickens.

On 7/14/2025 at 4:39 PM, save the frogs said:

 

A lot of people in high places seem to hate Trump though, so it's likely

a lot of people in low places hate him too,   many don't have a clue why

1 hour ago, spidermike007 said:

They ran on conspiracy theories, appointed people who spent all their time creating and stoking conspiracy theories, including Patel, including Bondi, including lying about the 2020 election, and now their conspiracy theories are biting them in the butt, because this whole Epstein thing is incriminating to the king. He will not stop saying whatever serves his followers, we saw him do that throughout the election cycle, which said I will tell you what I think you want to hear, I will not stop lying, I will not stop saying whatever serves my viewpoints, and then I will shift if it benefits me to shift.

 

This is the non-transparency group, this is the administration that says don't believe you're lying eyes, and we're not going to actually tell you the truth, we're pulling data off our websites, we're actually making sure we can spin whatever story we want and never be held accountable to you. And by the way we will flood the zone with federal agents, we will put them in masks and we will have them refuse to even identify who they are, but no we're the transparency, administration, we're going to get the Deep State.

 

No, this is the Deep State, Trump has become the Deep state, their refusal to be transparent and follow through on promises to their base is exactly why this is coming home to roost.

 

 

So funny to see the Donald, who's been continuously fueling the Deep State B.S. propaganda, now having a taste of his own medicine! 

On 7/14/2025 at 5:33 PM, BLMFem said:

But The Laptop!

 

Hunters?

1 hour ago, candide said:

So funny to see the Donald, who's been continuously fueling the Deep State B.S. propaganda, now having a taste of his own medicine! 

When you live a life built upon lies and fabrications, and a self-invented fiction, and you have a massive group of devotees who are incredibly tolerant and willing to go along with that fiction, sooner or later something's going to happen that's going to expose your alternate reality in a big way.

 

This certainly feels like this is that moment for huge Don, the filthy liar. 

2 hours ago, ThreeCardMonte said:

I pay no attention to it.  Only the fools of the left do.

You pay no attention to it (the MAGA meltdown)? Tell me, how is posting furiously about the revolt "not paying attention to it"?😄

2 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

They ran on conspiracy theories, appointed people who spent all their time creating and stoking conspiracy theories, including Patel, including Bondi, including lying about the 2020 election, and now their conspiracy theories are biting them in the butt, because this whole Epstein thing is incriminating to the king. He will not stop saying whatever serves his followers, we saw him do that throughout the election cycle, which said I will tell you what I think you want to hear, I will not stop lying, I will not stop saying whatever serves my viewpoints, and then I will shift if it benefits me to shift.

 

This is the non-transparency group, this is the administration that says don't believe you're lying eyes, and we're not going to actually tell you the truth, we're pulling data off our websites, we're actually making sure we can spin whatever story we want and never be held accountable to you. And by the way we will flood the zone with federal agents, we will put them in masks and we will have them refuse to even identify who they are, but no we're the transparency, administration, we're going to get the Deep State.

 

No, this is the Deep State, Trump has become the Deep state, their refusal to be transparent and follow through on promises to their base is exactly why this is coming home to roost.

 

 

So why didn't the Dems show the files when they were in Charge.

I've been finding myself more and more in tune with Trump lately.

 

3 minutes ago, flexomike said:

So why didn't the Dems show the files when they were in Charge.

It's very likely they were just as guilty and that they have just as many names on the list as the Republicans. I guess you haven't figured this out yet, but both parties are completely broken, and both parties are corrupt beyond fixing. 

 

And if there is a deep state they're likely nonpartisan, to them it's not about who's in power it's just about control and money. 

1 hour ago, proton said:

 

Hunters?

I feel that at this point in time The Laptop has transcended the limitations of a mere physical object and has, for the mentally less astute, become a mythical object, to which some have ascribed supernatural attributes. 

It is said that if you pray to it, it can cure cancer, although for now at least stupidity seems to be beyond its abilities to cure.

4 minutes ago, ThreeCardMonte said:

Not to the subject line.  Only the leftists idiots making this their new January 6th

So you post in a thread paying no attention to the subject line? I guess staying on topic is not a priority for you then.😂

And please, give the Jan 6 insurgency a rest, will ya buddy? Is there really nothing else you can use as a diversion?

On 7/14/2025 at 4:32 PM, BLMFem said:

So this Epstein file issue is causing real problems for Trump with the red meat MAGA base. This is a Catch 22 situation for him; don't release the files as he's promised over and over (as has his clown-lieutenants) and face the wrath of a substantial part of his base, or release them and thereby confirm he's named in the files.

Damned if you do and damned if you don't, Donny. I'm sooooo sorry for you!

 

Trump's most ardent supporters are in revolt, Epstein fallout poses a loyalty test: Trump or MAGA?

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/07/14/politics/epstein-fallout-trump-maga

 

"The Justice Department and the FBI released a memo last week concluding there was no evidence that Epstein had a list of powerful men who participated in his alleged underworld of sex trafficking and pedophilia. It also said the disgraced former financier died by suicide and was not murdered in his New York jail cell.

Yet after years of big promises to the president’s base, the memo failed to produce a smoking gun, undercutting Trump and his team’s own words. And MAGA world isn’t happy, pitting the president’s closest allies against one another."

AFAIAC just release the whole UNREDACTED files and lets the chips fall where they will. TBH, I really don't give a damn.

4 hours ago, FlorC said:

Meanwhile Maxwell sitting in prison all these years for being innocent.

She says she's ready to talk.

One of these days a suicide with paper sheets ?

On what basis do you reckon she's innocent?

On 7/14/2025 at 4:48 PM, dinsdale said:

Must be true if CNN says so.

CNN is not the only outlet reporting on this. Almost every major news organisation is talking about it.

 

Here's a Fox News report on it. 

 

Quote

MAGA supporters are not pleased with President Donald Trump following his full-throated defense of Attorney General Pam Bondi, whose Department of Justice denied the existence of a Jeffrey Epstein client list after years of Trump surrogates vowing to reveal the disgraced financier's secrets. 

 

MAGA world erupts over Trump's defense of Bondi amid Epstein files fallout

 

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/maga-world-erupts-over-trumps-defense-bondi-amid-epstein-files-fallout

59 minutes ago, flexomike said:

So why didn't the Dems show the files when they were in Charge.

My heart goes out to you. I know how devastating it can feel to be totally betrayed and cast aside. 

13 minutes ago, billd766 said:

AFAIAC just release the whole UNREDACTED files and lets the chips fall where they will. TBH, I really don't give a damn.

Fine by me, with the caveat that victims' identities are protected.

3 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

Trump was at one point friends with Epstein. “I’ve known Jeff for 15 years. Terrific guy,” Trump told New York magazine in 2002, before there were any public allegations of wrongdoing against multimillionaire money manager. “He’s a lot of fun to be with," Trump said then. "It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side."

 

"I was never on Epstein’s Plane, or at his ‘stupid’ Island,” Trump said in a social media post in January.

 

Flight logs released in 2021 as part of Maxwell’s trial, however, indicated Trump flew on the plane seven times. The logs don't include the ages of the passengers, despite Lieu's assertion there were "young girls aboard." The logs indicate that on one of the trips between New York and Florida he was accompanied by his then-wife Marla Maples and their daughter, Tiffany, and another listed his son Eric as a passenger.

 

Something I’ve heard that doesn’t seem to be being covered are the Epstein files. These files were released. Donald Trump is sort of all over this. There are pictures of him with Jeffrey Epstein. He’s taken multiple plane flights with Epstein, with young girls aboard. He’s in call logs with Epstein,” Lieu told reporters Tuesday, urging them to look into the "highly disturbing" allegations.

 

https://www.nbcboston.com/news/national-international/trump-epstein-files-their-relationship-what-to-know/3425592/

The great thing about telling the truth is that you only need to remember one thing. The bad thing about telling lies is that you have to remember who you told which lie to. Of course, if you forget who you told the original lie to, you can always tell another lie to cover it up. Then of course you have to remember even more lies, and so it goes on.

 

BUT there is always somebody who will remember, and throw the lie back at you.

Trump's most ardent supporters are in revolt

 

Yep! 

I wrote the same thing last Sunday.

https://aseannow.com/topic/1366564-trump-just-lost-his-maga-base/page/2/#comment-19941123

 

16 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

Fine by me, with the caveat that victims' identities are protected.

Yep - protect the victims, skewer those involved in the under-aged sex trafficking on Epstein Island serviced by The Lolita Express.

If Trump is implicated?  Let the chips fall where they may.  

On 7/14/2025 at 4:42 PM, BLMFem said:

Ah, another conspiracy theory, and this time from the right. How unusual!

If this breaks open, and I hope it does, hopefully we can relegate the term, conspiracy theory, to the dustbin of historical irrelevancy. 

36 minutes ago, ThreeCardMonte said:

I have no interest in the Epstein files.

 

Only the left who are obsessed with anything related to Trump.

 

You have no interest in the Epstein files? You sure have a strange way of showing it. Know what? I'm just gonna come right out and say you're lying. 

 

And, largely because of Trump, it's the MAGA base that's obsessed with the Epstein files, and that strategy has come back to bite him in the a**. In fact, it's tearing him a new one.

Sometimes, karma is a beautiful b***h.

 

Epstein is a distraction. 

9 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Epstein is a distraction. 

What an obvious and lame distraction writing "Epstein is a distraction" is.

3 hours ago, ThreeCardMonte said:

Wonder why this list wasn’t an issue with the leftists nutters on the forum when Biden was in office.

 

Only an issue with them now….hmmmm.

 

 

 

Because it's your thing. Try deflecting as much as you do, won't change a thing. You are the ultimate Trump follower and the moment he retreats to his bunker, feel free to follow him.

17 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Epstein is a distraction. 

Actually, you are.

7 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

What an obvious and lame distraction writing "Epstein is a distraction" is.

Im not writing diatribes on it. Enjoy your Trump obsessed mentalwank.