16 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

They could have leaked it without anyone but Trump being named. Trump like young women, but he does not have a history of banging young girls. There is a big difference. 

 

There are probably thousands of names on the list, and it is likely only a small percentage of them did anything illegal. 

 

 

Really???? You surely have the big blinds on. How about waking up, open your eyes and say welcome to reality instead?

12 minutes ago, JAG said:

It may be that he maintained a record (a list) of those who were party to, and part of his antics, as a form of insurance.

 

There are suspicions that Epstein was working for Mossad, so if that is true, you can be sure that he maintained such a list and other records like video and audio recordings, and that they are already with Mossad, and will be used to blackmail all those important people

31 minutes ago, JAG said:

I would agree that blackmail (in the conventional sense to obtain money) was unlikely to be a Billionaires motivation. However, Epstein was no fool, and was aware that his addiction to sex with young girls could land him in trouble. It was an addiction, made possible by his wealth, and like many addictions he could not resist it. It may be that he maintained a record (a list) of those who were party to, and part of his antics, as a form of insurance.

 

His death may be because he realised that the insurance policy wasn't going to work and so killed himself, or he may have been killed by ruthless people who knew or suspected that they were part of that insurance policy and had no wish to see it deployed.

 

Returning to my first point, it was long known that Trump was party to Epstein's antics, that was known long before Obama, Clinton or Comey came on the scene. At that stage it could be dismissed as unsavoury, just more "Trump sleaze"; however accusations and circumstantial evidence are emerging that Trump was part of rather than merely party to those antics. Suspicions which are merely exacerbated by "the list is on my desk", "there is no list", " it's all a plot created by the Dems, Obama, Clinton, Comey, the media", "you're all stupid for believing it" hubris.

 

The only way to lay this ghost is full open disclosure and rigourous public investigation by impartial figures; that is not going to happen. People can come to their own comclusions as to why that is, for my part it is because I think that the evidence suggests that Trump was an active player in Epstein's "entertainments". I may be wrong, in a way I would be happy to be proved wrong, but it is all rather pointing that way.

Thank you,well said.

18 minutes ago, CallumWK said:

 

There are suspicions that Epstein was working for Mossad, so if that is true, you can be sure that he maintained such a list and other records like video and audio recordings, and that they are already with Mossad, and will be used to blackmail all those important people

 

I'm sure you'll have no problem to post the evidence that Epstein was working for Mossad?

 

 

25 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

It maybe he was sent from space by a Reptile overlord to investigate planet earth, but in the absence of evidence to the contrary, that's well, how to put it, just speculation.

 

It seems Epstein's strategy was fundamentally different anyway, it was to pay the girls who massaged him and had sex with him, send them to Chiang Mai to learn massage, and make their professional, travel and financial dreams come true. That was most likely a far more sensible strategy to keep his sexual adventures confidential than keeping a book with the name Bill Clinton in it. 

 

Anyone with half a brain knows that even if you have a book with Bill Clinton in it, that will not shield you from a prosecution in the US, which is not Manila.

 

 

More likely he killed himself because he did not want to endure the rest of his life in jail. Very simple.

 

 

Actually if you look at Trump's "type", Melania, Stormy Daniels, Ivana, he likes real grown women, he's not into the teenagers like Epstein was.

Do you really believe what you wrote here?

Have you seen the clips where he is talking about 14 and 15 year old girls?

You are getting more and more irrational ,trying to hold onto multiple lies.

You are almost acting like trump himself.

Scared your world will fall apart?

 

22 hours ago, CallumWK said:

 

You don't say, see who is the world record holder for pleading the fifth amendment.

 

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/trumps-history-fifth-amendment-still-isnt-allies-favors-rcna218333

 

Trump’s history with the Fifth Amendment still isn’t doing his allies any favors

After Joe Biden's former physician took the Fifth, James Comer said that suggested "criminal liability.” Would he apply that standard to Donald Trump, too?

 

Around this time three years ago, for example, as New York Attorney General Letitia James’ office continued its investigation into the Trump Organization’s fraudulent business practices, the Republican indicated in advance that he’d assert his Fifth Amendment privileges, invoking his right against self-incrimination. As NBC News reported soon after, he did exactly that — a great many times.

The deposition lasted four hours, and the only question the former president answered was about his name, Trump attorney Ron Fischetti told NBC News. A source with knowledge of the deposition said Trump took the Fifth more than 440 times.

Yessir!  Whenever any suspect claims "5th Amendment", IMHO it mean somewhere within this case, the suspected person has something to hide that is or was illegal.  I just watched a clip about Melania and how she could be considered an illegal immigrant based on those charges that DJT is using about illegals now being rounded up by the ICE folks, and I was and am a basic critic of illegally entering the country when there are so many legal ways to do it.   I realize that there a multitude of different stories, and some heart wrenching but the laws are there for a reason and looking at Europe today, the illegals can ruin a country again, IMHO.   I also believe that there will be more crimes and stories coming out with the current government senior leaders before the next 3+ years of their reign ends.  Best of luck to all.

1 minute ago, jvs said:

Do you really believe what you wrote here?

Have you seen the clips where he is talking about 14 and 15 year old girls?

You are getting more and more irrational ,trying to hold onto multiple lies.

You are almost acting like trump himself.

Scared your world will fall apart?

 

 

That's what I wonder about what you wrote.

 

I mean if connections could shield someone from prosecution in the US, why was Sean Coombs prosecuted? He knew everybody, he got the key to the City of New York. Did it shield him from prosecution. No.

 

Your whole theory doesn't make sense.

9 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

I'm sure you'll have no problem to post the evidence that Epstein was working for Mossad?

 

 

 

I'm sure that if your previous claims on this forum that you are an ex lawyer, rather than a MAGA with the relevant IQ, were true that you would have been able to comprehend what I wrote, and there was no need for your silly remark.

 

Here it is for you again.

32 minutes ago, CallumWK said:

There are suspicions that Epstein was working for Mossad, so if that is true

 

The phrase "there is suspicion" is correct and usable in written English.
You can use it when you want to express that something is uncertain, or that something seems likely but is not yet confirmed. For example: "There is suspicion that the company is involved in illegal activities, but nothing has been proven yet."

14 minutes ago, CallumWK said:

 

I'm sure that if your previous claims on this forum that you are an ex lawyer, rather than a MAGA with the relevant IQ, were true that you would have been able to comprehend what I wrote, and there was no need for your silly remark.

 

Here it is for you again.

 

The phrase "there is suspicion" is correct and usable in written English.
You can use it when you want to express that something is uncertain, or that something seems likely but is not yet confirmed. For example: "There is suspicion that the company is involved in illegal activities, but nothing has been proven yet."

 

So no basis for the suspicion? Nothing?

14 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

So no basis for the suspicion? Nothing?

 

So still showing the level of your IQ?

 

https://www.newsweek.com/jeffrey-epstein-mossad-tucker-carlson-israel-naftali-2098880

Look at the make up of the people defending Trump here. Some of them would be described as sex offenders or worse in civilised societies. 

Why is anyone surprised at their defence of that odious deviant?

It seems the cheat in charge's  most fanatic and loyal supporters are squirming as much as the evil conniving rat himself and it is just fantastic to watch.

To be honest it's a bit sad to watch. I can only hope that they are bots and not real people.

Real people surely cannot be so repugnant and devoid of morals, as to shield a corrupt paedophile.

1 hour ago, CallumWK said:

 

So still showing the level of your IQ?

 

https://www.newsweek.com/jeffrey-epstein-mossad-tucker-carlson-israel-naftali-2098880

 

So Epstein got rich and he met Ehud Barak? He met Clinton and Trump as well, so did he work for the CIA as well? I mean the whole theory is an edifice of cards that comes tumbling down at the merest exhalation.

 

Anyone who believes Epstein worked for Mossad  has the IQ of a Congolese street walker.

 

Tucker Carlson is fun, but he's obviously got the wrong end of the stick here, it happens.

16 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

So Epstein got rich and he met Ehud Barak?

 

You got it the wrong way around, as usual, with all your comments in all threads, including those troll threads about females you started. If the theory that he was a Mossad agent, and I already made clear what is the meaning of suspicion, he will have got rich BECAUSE he met Ehud Barak.

Because they will have enabled him to meet influential people.

It is also mentioned in the lawsuit that one of his victims filed, and of which a copy has been posted on this forum, that a witness had to be present during all sexual acts, and had to tell Epstein of all the details, including what was said during conversations.

Epstein made it clear to the witness, mentioned as Jane Doe in the lawsuit, that knowledge is power.

 

24 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Anyone who believes Epstein worked for Mossad  has the IQ of a Congolese street walker.

 

 

Anyone who is a member of a cult has the IQ of a Congolese street walker.

 

See I corrected it for you

8 minutes ago, CallumWK said:

he will have got rich BECAUSE he met Ehud Barak.

 

Lol, but your article says that he PAID Ehud Barak. So he already had money when he met Ehud Barak.

 

Nothing you say makes any sense. Lol.

2 hours ago, JAG said:

I would agree that blackmail (in the conventional sense to obtain money) was unlikely to be a Billionaires motivation. However, Epstein was no fool, and was aware that his addiction to sex with young girls could land him in trouble. It was an addiction, made possible by his wealth, and like many addictions he could not resist it. It may be that he maintained a record (a list) of those who were party to, and part of his antics, as a form of insurance.

 

His death may be because he realised that the insurance policy wasn't going to work and so killed himself, or he may have been killed by ruthless people who knew or suspected that they were part of that insurance policy and had no wish to see it deployed.

 

Returning to my first point, it was long known that Trump was party to Epstein's antics, that was known long before Obama, Clinton or Comey came on the scene. At that stage it could be dismissed as unsavoury, just more "Trump sleaze"; however accusations and circumstantial evidence are emerging that Trump was part of rather than merely party to those antics. Suspicions which are merely exacerbated by "the list is on my desk", "there is no list", " it's all a plot created by the Dems, Obama, Clinton, Comey, the media", "you're all stupid for believing it" hubris.

 

The only way to lay this ghost is full open disclosure and rigourous public investigation by impartial figures; that is not going to happen. People can come to their own comclusions as to why that is, for my part it is because I think that the evidence suggests that Trump was an active player in Epstein's "entertainments". I may be wrong, in a way I would be happy to be proved wrong, but it is all rather pointing that way.

That is absolutely correct, the chances of there being no client list is about as high as the chances of him having committed suicide, which is roughly zero. Epstein was many things, but he was obviously not dumb. Ignorant, predatory, malicious, and perverted, but not dumb. 

list in Epstein's handwriting or no, every person who flew on that plane to that island has to be on record somewhere.

1 hour ago, SMIAI said:

To be honest it's a bit sad to watch. I can only hope that they are bots and not real people.

Real people surely cannot be so repugnant and devoid of morals, as to shield a corrupt paedophile.

I love it how wokies talk in opposites. Trump likes porn stars and trashy looking women with big hooters.

Your man Biden liked sniffing kids, getting young boys to rub his hairy legs in the pool and thanks to Ashley's diary we know there is strong evidence he was an incestual pedo.

Who do you blame as immoral and a pedophile? Why Trump of course!?! You couldn't make up such dishonesty if you tried.

1 minute ago, madone said:

list in Epstein's handwriting or no, every person who flew on that plane to that island has to be on record somewhere.

The flight logs have already been accessible on the Internet for years.

11 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Lol, but your article says that he PAID Ehud Barak. So he already had money when he met Ehud Barak.

 

 

Nope it doesn't say that at all. It says that Barak was paid by a foundation associated with Epstein, though it doesn't mention which foundation or how it was created.

 

Shows again that my comment about the IQ level of cult members applies to you.

 

This is how Epstein got rich, which is also mentioned in the same article, if hadn't been so eager to deny FACTS.

 

1) One of Epstein's closest friends was former Israeli PM Ehud Barak; 2) A key source of Epstein's vast wealth, though mysterious, was from Les Wexner, whose primary life cause is Israel; 3) Ghislaine Maxwell's father - the billionaire Robert Maxwell -- was a Mossad agent who mysteriously died after that was reported.

@SunnyinBangrak, I suggest that by the available evidence, that Trump is who you describe. Biden might be strange too, but that's not the subject of this thread.

The thing that you retarded people don't seem to understand, is that I don't care about the Dem/Republican split at all. Biden is just a name to me. If he did bad things, then people can look into that. Equally, Trump.

Have you ever seen me write anything in Biden's defence?

So give it a rest with the Biden nonsense and stick to the topic. Trump. He appears to be a pervert who spied on and had sexual relations with very young girls.

9 minutes ago, CallumWK said:

2) A key source of Epstein's vast wealth, though mysterious, was from Les Wexner, whose primary life cause is Israel

 

This is true actually. It is no mystery how Epstein got rich:

 

But the stint at Dalton had him tutoring the son of Bear Stearns CEO Alan Greenberg, which led to a job at the investment bank before it collapsed in 2008 following the housing crash. Epstein then became a money manager for billionaires including Les Wexner, founder and CEO of L Brands, and Apollo Global Management Chairman Leon Black. Black paid Epstein $158 million for tax and estate planning services, according to the Senate Finance Committee. 

 

For more than a decade, Epstein was Wexner's personal money manager and business adviser, making hundreds of millions of dollars managing Wexner's billions. 

 

JPMorgan Chase loaned Epstein money and regularly let him withdraw large sums of cash from 1998 through August 2013, according to a class-action lawsuit settled by the nation's largest bank last year.

 

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/how-did-jeffrey-epstein-make-his-money/

 

Absolutely zero evidence the state of Israel paid Epstein anything, but plenty of evidence that Epstein made millions as a personal money manager.

You know what they say about birds of a feather... If they are defending Trump's apparent proclivity for corrupting young girls in private,  where normal people would be outraged, then it follows that they see it as normal behaviour.

 

Quote

Jeffrey Epstein described himself as Donald Trump’s “closest friend” and claimed intimate knowledge of his proclivity for sex, including cuckolding his best friends, according to recordings obtained exclusively by the Daily Beast.

The convicted pedophile even boasted of his closeness to Trump and his now-wife Melania by claiming, “the first time he slept with her was on my plane,” which was dubbed the Lolita Express. Epstein spoke at length about Trump with the author Michael Wolff in August 2017, two years before being found dead in his jail cell. Wolff was researching his bombshell bestseller Fire and Fury at the time. The recordings cast more light on Trump’s long relationship with Epstein, and will add to debate over the character of the Republican candidate, especially his attitudes and conduct toward women, just days before the election. The tapes tell Epstein’s version of the relationship between two former friends and their very different paths: One toward infamy, prison and suicide; the other toward power, the Oval Office and his own criminal conviction for paying hush money to a porn star. Trump’s camp referred to the tapes’ release as “false smears” and “election interference.” The tapes also offer unusual insight into the friendship of two wealthy, powerful men who frequently went out on the town together, prowling for women in New York and Atlantic City

He also claimed that while Trump has friends, he was at heart a friendless man incapable of kindness. And he alleged that Trump had undergone scalp reduction surgery for baldness and called himself “The Trumpster.” The new tapes shed light on a barely explored part of Trump's past, his long-term friendship with a man who would become one of America's most notorious sexual predators. Trump was in the last three days of campaigning on Saturday in Salem, Virginia. Brian Snyder/Reuters Asked by Wolff, “How do you know all this?” Epstein replied, “I was Donald’s closest friend for 10 years.

Wolff shared the tape with the Daily Beast ahead of discussing it on his Fire and Fury podcast on Monday. Last Thursday he caused shockwaves by revealing a few seconds of a separate recording in which Epstein spoke in detail about the inner workings of the Trump administration. Wolff also said Thursday that the pedophile showed off photos of Trump with topless young women sitting in his lap.

 

https://docs.house.gov/meetings/JU/JU08/20250227/117951/HHRG-119-JU08-20250227-SD006-U6.pdf

 

So Epstein talked about him and ended up dead two years later...

23 hours ago, frank83628 said:

Show me where she says the exact wording. 'The Epstein client list is on my desk'

 

What she does said is 'its on my desk, in reply to the host, along with the JFK file and mlk files

ohhh my God dimitri you are loosing it, maybe you should get some help man, you have been infection with the TACO virus

Trump owes someone a favour for Epstein....

4 minutes ago, SMIAI said:

You know what they say about birds of a feather... If they are defending Trump's apparent proclivity for corrupting young girls in private,  where normal people would be outraged, then it follows that they see it as normal behaviour.

 

 

https://docs.house.gov/meetings/JU/JU08/20250227/117951/HHRG-119-JU08-20250227-SD006-U6.pdf

 

So Epstein talked about him and ended up dead two years later...

correct, even if we don't want to criticize Trump's behavior,  we do have to wonder about so many coincidences 

4 minutes ago, Mavideol said:

we do have to wonder about so many coincidences 

 

It's more a case how we have to wonder about so many people having no qualms to post innuendo, gossip and unevidenced conspiracy theories.

On 7/19/2025 at 4:22 AM, Chomper Higgot said:

Trump has just made an idiot move, suing the WSJ, Dow Jones’s and Ruper Murdoch.

 

His handlers need to get to him and explain how ‘Disclosure’ works.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jul/18/trump-libel-lawsuit-wsj-dow-jones-rupert-murdoch

Vice-President JD Vance poured scorn on the report, tweeting on Thursday: “Forgive my language but this story is complete and utter bull<deleted>. The WSJ should be ashamed for publishing it. Where is this letter? Would you be shocked to learn they never showed it to us before publishing it? Does anyone honestly believe this sounds like Donald Trump?”

 

Oh, you mean the guy that was recorded speaking with Billy Bush about 'grabbing women by the PUSSY'...?

 

That Donald Trump...?

 

YES...!!!

1 hour ago, Cameroni said:

 

This is true actually. It is no mystery how Epstein got rich:

 

But the stint at Dalton had him tutoring the son of Bear Stearns CEO Alan Greenberg, which led to a job at the investment bank before it collapsed in 2008 following the housing crash. Epstein then became a money manager for billionaires including Les Wexner, founder and CEO of L Brands, and Apollo Global Management Chairman Leon Black. Black paid Epstein $158 million for tax and estate planning services, according to the Senate Finance Committee. 

 

For more than a decade, Epstein was Wexner's personal money manager and business adviser, making hundreds of millions of dollars managing Wexner's billions. 

 

JPMorgan Chase loaned Epstein money and regularly let him withdraw large sums of cash from 1998 through August 2013, according to a class-action lawsuit settled by the nation's largest bank last year.

 

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/how-did-jeffrey-epstein-make-his-money/

 

Absolutely zero evidence the state of Israel paid Epstein anything, but plenty of evidence that Epstein made millions as a personal money manager.

 

You do know who Les Wexner is and his relationship to Israel?