The official sinsod calculator for Thai marriages

[MalcolmB]

A lot of westerners marry Thai women and find the dowry/sinsod amount to pay a bit daunting.

They don’t want to pay too much, and they don’t want to pay too little and embarrass the bride in front of the whole village on the big day.

 

Negotiations with the parents can be tense for the novice.

 

Different women are valued differently.

 

Yesterday I had lunch with about a dozen Thai males and we decided on value after much discussion.

 

So here is the official sinsod calculator.

 

Virgin                                                      +200,000

Uni Degree from top university         + 200,000

College degree.                                      + 100,000

Finished high school.                             + 10,000

Finished Matayom 3.                             + a chicken

 

Snow white skin.                                    + 200,000

Slightly off white.                                   + 50,000

Latte.                                                        + 10,000

Dark skin.                                                 + one bottle of Lao Kao

 

Xtra large natural breasts.                     + 40,000

Large breasts.                                           + 20,000

Slim fit.                                                        +20,000

Chubby.                                                       No extra charge

Obese.                                                          50% discount

 

Over 165 cm.                                             + 10%

Under 150 cm.                                          10% discount

 

Born and bred Chinese Thai from Bangkok.    +40,000

 

Previously married no kids.                                  80% discount

Previously married with kids.                               95% discount

Previously not married with kids.                        99% discount

Over 25                                                                     10% discount

Over 30.                                                                    50% discount

Over 40.                                                                    90% discount

 

Tatooed.                                                                            50% discount

Heavily tattooed                                                               90% discount

 

Gainfully employed with 50,000+ salary.                     + 100,000

Mid range 20-50,000.                                                       + 10,000

Minimum wage.                                                                +a  chicken and a box of large chang beer

sex worker.                                                                        100% discount, you already paid the bar fine.

 

Age gap.                                                                             + 1% per year of age gap

If you are farang.                                                              +20%

 

 

What is your girl worth?

 

[fredwiggy]

A little funny but there isn't an official calculator. It's mostly about them and their previous partners, marriages and children. Also how greedy the in laws are.

 

I wouldn't put a price on a woman, as some are priceless, and some are worthless, with the rest somewhere in between.

 

Most women I've left were very good women, and some weren't worth the time I wasted with them. Can't tell if staying with any of them would have been right, as time spent together is the only way you'll know. People change frequently up until about 30 years old, and by then their character is ingrained, meaning any changes are harder to make. The women I've had children weren't worth much as a partner, but the children that were made are worth the crap I went through.

[CharlieH]

Let's be honest, for most, its what the girl and her family think they can get away with, relying on the foreigners romantic notions and stories of "tradition".

 

I paid ZERO! I dont believe in buying people. 😀

[Cameroni]

+ 10% of what?

 

 

[sqwakvfr]

So a top university educated, virgin (allegedly) with white skin would cost 600,000 Baht.  

But the neighborhood 7-11 girl with a kid and sightly tanned skin would be zero?

 

This sounds like car shopping.  The fancy new sports car compared to a used sedan with a some dents.  

[save the frogs]

11 hours ago, CharlieH said:

I paid ZERO! I dont believe in buying people.

what about the monthly expenses? 50-50 ? 

 

[VocalNeal]

My FIL asked "Where's my 100,000 Baht" 

 

My wife retorted "Forget it. He's never seen 100,000 Baht"

[Packer]

We met while doing Phd's in Washington State. Married not long after graduation, by which time she was employed by a large MNC with operations in Thailand and The States. Sinsod wasn't mentioned before, during, or after marriage by anybody. Other than by people on a Thai based forum I was a member of at the time, when we were researching about registering the marriage in Thailand too. 

[MalcolmB]

47 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

+ 10% of what?

 

 

Of the total.

 

 

[MalcolmB]

39 minutes ago, sqwakvfr said:

So a top university educated, virgin (allegedly) with white skin would cost 600,000 Baht.  

But the neighborhood 7-11 girl with a kid and sightly tanned skin would be zero?

 

This sounds like car shopping.  The fancy new sports car compared to a used sedan with a some dents.  

600,000 plus age gap adjustments, farang surcharge etc.

 

A used rental car with a few dents is pretty much given away.

[MalcolmB]

1 hour ago, CharlieH said:

Let's be honest, for most, its what the girl and her family think they can get away with, replying on the foreigners romantic notions and stories of "tradition".

 

I paid ZERO! I dont believe in buying people. 😀

Most Thais still pay sinsod for high value women.

 

[MalcolmB]

1 hour ago, fredwiggy said:

I wouldn't put a price on a woman,

and later in the same sentence 

 

1 hour ago, fredwiggy said:

 

 

as some are priceless, and some are worthless, with the rest somewhere in between.

 

[MalcolmB]

If I had 250,000 budget I would probably just get an uneducated, dark skinned virgin with large breasts.

[BritManToo]

I paid, 100,000bht to pay off a loan on the family farm near Petchabun.

Five rai of sticky rice paddy, plus a separate 0.5 rai land with family home/shack.

But on the condition the farm was immediately handed over to my misses, for our son to inherit.

 

Chanote was handed over and put in the misses name 15 years back.

Shhhhhh .... don't tell her bother or sister, they don't know.

[JAS21]

My wife’s father was Chinese and her mother was Chinese-Thai. When we met and married, in 2002, she was 48 and I was 57. She was divorced and had a lovely 17 year old daughter at university. All he parent’s children were university educated.

 

The village wedding, and we count that as our wedding date and not the one at the Amphur, was at her family house.

 

I gave her brother 70,000 baht, he went to the bank and exchange it for new notes. We showed that money plus a gold necklace, bracelet, engagement ring and wedding ring etc. After the wedding everything came back to us.

 

We bought a house here in 2005 and I paid about 80% of the cost. We lived in the UK from 2002 until when we retired out here in 2007.  Yes, financially I pay everything now but it allows us to be free to do whatever we want.  

 

I’ve actually been retired about twenty years.  We are together basically 24/7 although she has a few days away with friends from the past once a year and meets them every month or so. I go sometimes, but ex-schoolteachers by definition are noisy. Also goes to see her grandchildren most weeks, I go sometimes ....

 

So, I have an Aging Asian Babe, 43.5Kgs, 163cm and doesn’t look her age. We do get through a fair amount of money but what the hell, I am happy with my lot and hope to enjoy this life somewhat longer. She has a lower golf handicap than me  #### !!!!! She is basically only light brown but hours on the golf course has fixed that.....

 

Not sure where I fit into your list...............................

 

[novacova]

The wife’s aunt wanted 200k. No was the answer and that was the end of the subject.

[fredwiggy]

9 minutes ago, MalcolmB said:

and later in the same sentence 

 

 

Guess it went flying over. I meant I wouldn't, as in priceless or worthless, both not having a price, and  not that others do, which is obvious. 

[fredwiggy]

11 minutes ago, MalcolmB said:

If I had 250,000 budget I would probably just get an uneducated, dark skinned virgin with large breasts.

I'm guessing if you ever do get married, then we'll all see. Uneducated would be a good choice. 

[MalcolmB]

9 minutes ago, JAS21 said:

My wife’s father was Chinese and her mother was Chinese-Thai. When we met and married, in 2002, she was 48 and I was 57. She was divorced and had a lovely 17 year old daughter at university. All he parent’s children were university educated.

 

The village wedding, and we count that as our wedding date and not the one at the Amphur, was at her family house.

 

I gave her brother 70,000 baht, he went to the bank and exchange it for new notes. We showed that money plus a gold necklace, bracelet, engagement ring and wedding ring etc. After the wedding everything came back to us.

 

We bought a house here in 2005 and I paid about 80% of the cost. We lived in the UK from 2002 until when we retired out here in 2007.  Yes, financially I pay everything now but it allows us to be free to do whatever we want.  

 

I’ve actually been retired about twenty years.  We are together basically 24/7 although she has a few days away with friends from the past once a year and meets them every month or so. I go sometimes, but ex-schoolteachers by definition are noisy. Also goes to see her grandchildren most weeks, I go sometimes ....

 

So, I have an Aging Asian Babe, 43.5Kgs, 163cm and doesn’t look her age. We do get through a fair amount of money but what the hell, I am happy with my lot and hope to enjoy this life somewhat longer. She has a lower golf handicap than me  #### !!!!! She is basically only light brown but hours on the golf course has fixed that.....

 

Not sure where I fit into your list...............................

 

Lovely 17 year old daughter is probably worth something.

[MalcolmB]

4 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

I'm guessing if you ever do get married, then we'll all see. Uneducated would be a good choice. 

What did you pay for your single mother, previously married Thai teerak?

You can use the calculator to see if you got a good deal or not.

[MalcolmB]

7 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Uneducated would be a good choice. 

Education is mostly wasted on females anyway.

[fredwiggy]

2 minutes ago, MalcolmB said:

What did you pay for your single mother, previously married Thai teerak?

You can use the calculator to see if you got a good deal or not.

I don't need a calculator to understand what I got. A daughter. The mother wasn't a good partner, but we produced a beautiful, smart girl who will do as well as my others, once she's out of here. She wasn't previously married. 

[fredwiggy]

1 minute ago, MalcolmB said:

Education is mostly wasted on females anyway.

No, it gives them a better life, more independence, and less likely to need a man , a want being a better choice, so she doesn't end up with players.

[MalcolmB]

1 minute ago, fredwiggy said:

I don't need a calculator to understand what I got. A daughter. The mother wasn't a good partner, but we produced a beautiful, smart girl who will do as well as my others, once she's out of here. She wasn't previously married. 

Well I hope you get a good price for her one day.

Keep her out of the sun and away from boys.

[fredwiggy]

1 minute ago, MalcolmB said:

Well I hope you get a good price for her one day.

Keep her out of the sun and away from boys.

My daughter is priceless. She'll be taught what a good man is, and hopefully she ends up with one. Putting a price on women shows what you see them as.

[MalcolmB]

Just now, fredwiggy said:

My daughter is priceless. She'll be taught what a good man is, and hopefully she ends up with one. Putting a price on women shows what you see them as.

It is Thai culture Fred.

 

Who will teach her what a good man is?

[fredwiggy]

Just now, MalcolmB said:

It is Thai culture Fred.

 

Who will teach her what a good man is?

Her first role model, me. A dowry was also a western thing, until if fell by the wayside with more independent women. 

[MalcolmB]

1 minute ago, fredwiggy said:

Her first role model, me. A dowry was also a western thing, until if fell by the wayside with more independent women. 

So likely she will be three times divorced with 100 conquests and 6 kids.

 

All the best Pal.

[MalcolmB]

1 hour ago, CharlieH said:

I paid ZERO! I dont believe in buying people.

Cheap CharlieH

[3NUMBAS]

A reasonable looking divorcee with 1 kiddy ,nothing to pay as they’re desperate for support